Rest of Bradford Development Thread

[*-City Of Bradford-*]

Bloody hell, BGS has picked up £1.6million of donations from two former school pupils.

The new development will be in front of this building:

Bradford Grammar School bosses are shrugging off the recession and ploughing ahead with a £4 million campus redevelopment – thanks to two massive cash injections from well-wishers.

The scheme is being backed by a mystery donor who anonymously gave the school more than £1m last summer, and a further gift of US$1m (almost £600,000) from former pupil Roger Evans, a Bradford-born businessman who now lives in America.

A planning application has been submitted to Bradford Council to build a three-storey building dedicated to chemistry and social sciences on the car park of the existing Kenneth Robinson Building. A large atrium-style structure would be built to provide access to the science building and the Clarkson and Kenneth Robinson buildings. The Kenneth Robinson building will be refurbished to create an entire floor for biology lessons and another for physics. The library and main building to the east of the school site, off Keighley Road, Bradford, will be connected to the new central atrium by a glass ‘learning link’ corridor.

Head teacher Stephen Davidson said the school was in a good position to expand despite difficult economic conditions. In the latest edition of the school newsletter he writes: “The Governors have long held the belief that Bradford Grammar School should not borrow money for capital development – we must not mortgage our future. “I sincerely hope that everyone associated with our school will share my own enthusiasm for the plans which will allow us to fulfil our academic, pastoral and administrative aspirations for many years to come.” Mr Evans’ donation is the second time he has dug in deep to fund improvements at the school. He flew in from the United States for the grand opening of a new sixth form centre at the school in 2001 after he made a similar donation and was nicknamed the ‘million dollar man’.

Subject to planning approval, construction work will start at the school this autumn and is expected to be completed in September, 2010.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...___4m_upgrade/

More news on the Second Dixons academy:

Work underway on Dixons Allerton Academy

Bradford’s new Dixons Allerton Academy is just weeks away from opening its doors. It will initially open in the Rhodesway School buildings this September, with new buildings planned for 2011/12. Work is underway to make repairs and improve the school site.

The new principal, Rachel Kidd, has been appointed and Rhodesway staff had the option to transfer to the academy. A spokesman for Bradford Council said the outline business case to build the academy a new home has been submitted and is awaiting approval. She said the Council had set aside funds to create primary provision on the site and the exact costs of this will be determined once feasibility studies have been completed.

Educo has been appointed to carry out the building work and BDP (Building Design Partnership) will be responsible for the new building’s design.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...r_new_academy/

[*-City Of Bradford-*]

Walked past Lister Park yesterday, I noticed there is a new development where The Park pub is, a minuite walk away from Bradford Grammer School I believe it used to be a car garage.

The new Centre is called the Parkside Centre, already Sainsburys Local and Greggs have signed up. There are still two smaller units on let. Didn't have my camera so no pics.

In other news, £1m sports complex for Bradford, and they have been waiting for....... 15 years!



At long last work has finally started on a £1m sports complex ending a community's 15 year wait. Machines rolled on to land at the back of Barkerend's Karmand Centre this week to make way for the scheme that will boast state-of-the-art facilities including a synthetic flood-lit football pitch, athletics running track, tennis courts and a cricket pitch. There will also be a pavilion with changing rooms as well as conference, catering and meeting rooms and business units which will be hired out to make money for the venture. The complex which supporters say will become a centre of sporting excellence has been funded by £300,000 from Bradford Council, £298,000 from Sport England, £42,000 from the ward Investment Fund and the rest from the Karmand Centre itself.

Sikander Mahmood who is chairman of the Karmand Community Centre said: "My first word is phew! It has taken a lot of hard work to make this happen and it's only own to all the support from he community, the residents and our partners who have shared our dream that we are getting what we have been waiting for. "There is a lot of sporting talent and our door will be open to anyone who wants to come and join us and support us."

Ward Councillor Ghazanfer Khaliq said: "After all this time I'm pleased that finally work gas started on this project - it's long overdue. "I've spent almost 20 years of my council career asking for this land to be developed for recreational purposes. "Finally the dream is becoming a reality, it's a new start." He also said people living next to the land would be relieved that the area had been fenced off and would stop people from dumping rubbish which had turned the ground into an eyesore.

Andy Lowde from Bradford-based Thomas Crompton contractors, said: "It should take us about 14 weeks to get the land level and do the basic structure work, then it's a case of putting the seed down and letting the grass grow. "The multi-use area and the parking should all be done by Christmas. "We were delighted to win the contract, there was competition from across the country - it's good it's come to a Bradford firm employing local people, it keeps it in the community."

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...Sporting_move/

[Baht'at]

Originally Posted by *-City Of Bradford-*

moronic cut n paste from the T&A

Tell me is it that you are just an idiot or do you have an underlying medical condition that causes you to ignore clear instructions NOT to cut and paste rubbish from the T&A.

Next time you do it I'm going to tell you precisely how cretinous I think you are.

[Molly]

Originally Posted by Baht'at

Tell me is it that you are just an idiot or do you have an underlying medical condition that causes you to ignore clear instructions NOT to cut and paste rubbish from the T&A.

Next time you do it I'm going to tell you precisely how cretinous I think you are.

Oh behave!


It's actually irritating but interesting. And I admit I for one wouldn't bother to read up and skim through the T&A to see what's going off in Bradford if I didn't have it shoved in my face like this.

Interesting to see Beckfoot developed. That is very good news.

[Baht'at]

Originally Posted by Molly

Oh behave!
:

Well that's ruined my day. Haunted by a vision of one of those ghastly women from Last of the Summer Whine - wrinkled stockings, pinny, fag hanging from the corner of the mouth hair in curlers weilding a blood-soaked rolling pin. In that situation even viagra fails.

Do that again and I'll be sueing for permanent psychosexual injury.

[Molly]

Originally Posted by Baht'at

Well that's ruined my day. Haunted by a vision of one of those ghastly women from Last of the Summer Whine - wrinkled stockings, pinny, fag hanging from the corner of the mouth hair in curlers weilding a blood-soaked rolling pin. In that situation even viagra fails.

Do that again and I'll be sueing for permanent psychosexual injury.

oh yer.... absolutely. That's me.

lol.

I stick by it. You are a very rude individual so grow up and behave and play nice. So please: no more offensiveness or name calling.

BASIC RULES OF CONDUCT:

We here are all friends ho share the same interest. So only say on here what you will be prepared to say when we all meet up, as friends, for a friendly social gathering, chat and a drink. If you would not say it at a polite social meet up then refrain from saying it on the forum. THen the atmophere on here will stay nice.

So I do look forward to meeting you at the next meet up - I just hope my ghaustliness and my wrinkly stockings won't ruin your image to much.

[*-City Of Bradford-*]

The new Parkside Centre next to Lister Park and The Park Pub. So far Sainsburys Local and Greggs have signed up to the devolopment:

image hosted on flickr

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Baht'at

Tell me is it that you are just an idiot or do you have an underlying medical condition that causes you to ignore clear instructions NOT to cut and paste rubbish from the T&A.

Lets get this clear, it is ok to post articles if they are of relevant interest and are posted in the relevant thread. Some comment added to the article would be better, but some articles may need no extra comment if they carry enough detail on their own.

Originally Posted by Baht'at

Next time you do it I'm going to tell you precisely how cretinous I think you are.

And if you do you'll be in the brig. If there is a problem with the content people are posting, either ask them politely or approach me as the moderator.

Remember the forum rules you signed up to:

'By agreeing to these rules, you warrant that you will not post any messages that are obscene, vulgar, sexually-oriented, hateful, threatening, or otherwise violative of any laws.'

[Baht'at]

Originally Posted by Rob

Lets get this clear, it is ok to post articles if they are of relevant interest and are posted in the relevant thread. Some comment added to the article would be better, but some articles may need no extra comment if they carry enough detail on their own.

That would be despite the clear stipulation on the T&A website that they do NOT permit the reproduction of their content on other websites without explicit permission - given that you can comply with their wishes by posting a link with perhaps a brief paraphrase of the content and your own comments why allow anything else? Now I don't like the T&A but the wholesale theft of their content when there is such an easy alternative seems to me to be downright immoral.

You seem to think that I'm objecting because of who is posting which is not the case - I'm objecting because contributors on here seem incapable of using the internet the way it is designed and intended which is where-ever possible use links rather than duplicating content. I don't mind the occasional bit of duplication but a good 75% of this thread is just needless duplication of content that could be linked.

If you were encouraging people to cut and paste stuff I'd authored rather than linking to it I'd get seriously pissed off so I think occasionally speaking up when other's content is similarly abused is reasonable, quite why you want a forum that is 75% copied from Newspapers is beyond me and to be honest it makes threads an absolute pain to read especially when the copied material is then quoted in full to make single sentence comments on it.

Using links would make threads much easier to read and it easier to see the thoughts of the members rather than what they've read in the paper.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Baht'at

That would be despite the clear stipulation on the T&A website that they do NOT permit the reproduction of their content on other websites without explicit permission - given that you can comply with their wishes by posting a link with perhaps a brief paraphrase of the content and your own comments why allow anything else? Now I don't like the T&A but the wholesale theft of their content when there is such an easy alternative seems to me to be downright immoral.

You're right in that the T&A site states the following:

'All content within this Web site is protected by UK copyright. All rights reserved. Copyright law prohibits copying; re-distributing; re-transmitting or re-purposing of any material on this site other than the cache necessary to view this site.
You are authorised to make one screen dump of any pages on this site for personal use.
Prior written agreement from Newsquest Media Group is required for all other uses and/or copies made.'

However, I'm of the understanding (rightly or wrongly) that it is generally understood that any copying of publicly displayed web content is generally accepted/legally tolerated as long as it isn't altered or used for commercial gain, and as long as it is correctly credited (I seem to remember Gothicform advising on this previously). In any case, if T&A or any other publishers have an issue with their content being duplicated on here, then I believe it is up to them to take this up with the person who quoted it or the forum. This has never happened to date.

Originally Posted by Baht'at

You seem to think that I'm objecting because of who is posting which is not the case - I'm objecting because contributors on here seem incapable of using the internet the way it is designed and intended which is where-ever possible use links rather than duplicating content. I don't mind the occasional bit of duplication but a good 75% of this thread is just needless duplication of content that could be linked.

If you were encouraging people to cut and paste stuff I'd authored rather than linking to it I'd get seriously pissed off so I think occasionally speaking up when other's content is similarly abused is reasonable, quite why you want a forum that is 75% copied from Newspapers is beyond me and to be honest it makes threads an absolute pain to read especially when the copied material is then quoted in full to make single sentence comments on it.

Using links would make threads much easier to read and it easier to see the thoughts of the members rather than what they've read in the paper.

This forum has a long history of using local newspaper articles to form postings, as they are often directly relevent and of interest to the topic in question, and are a direct source of information, ie a direct quote on the subject in question. Further discussion by forumers is of course an essential part of this forum, but the articles quoted from outside this forum provide a substantial source of information and material to discuss and debate.

As for posting the full text or just a link, I think most people prefer the presentation of text and images actually displayed in full, ready to read; if there were just a list of links it would be a bit tedious having to click on each one and waiting for them to load, it would spoil the instant presentation of the article. One improvement I would be in favour of (which I generally do if quoting an article) is to remove the spacing introduced between virtually every sentance, which does sprawl articles out and makes them a bit of trawl to go through and put them in a quote box. I can try to tidy some of them up as we go.

As for courtesy and respect to other forumers, I can't tolerate much more of the personnal targetting of individuals; this has gone to higher forum moderators who have requested that this is clamped down on (that is not aimed at any individual, but goes for anyone on here).

[*-City Of Bradford-*]

Newly-released images of how the new Grange School will look in 2011

The Government has formally released funding to allow Bradford Council to press ahead with the second phase of its £400 million school rebuilding project. Long-awaited, the announcement brings to an end a six-month delay for the plans to reach financial close – a hold-up senior Council officials blamed on bleak, global economic conditions.

Phase two of the Council’s Building Schools for Future (BSF) programme is the biggest single project in the country at £171.5 million – a combination of central government funding and Bradford Council’s contribution.

A further £43.5m has been released as Private Finance Initiative credits.

Beckfoot School, Grange Technology College, Hanson School and Greenhead High School are all set to be re-built as part of the project. A Hearing Impaired Unit will be created at Hanson and three secondary special schools will be built on the sites of the other three.

Tim Byles, chief executive of Partnerships for Schools, the Government body set up to deliver the BSF programme nationally, said: “I’m pleased that we have reached financial close on the second phase of Bradford’s scheme to transform where and how students learn across the area. “Before the turn of the year, no banks were lending into BSF. Today there are up to 20 financial institutions who have indicated they are in the market to lend. “This level of interest means that deals are continuing to close, feeding through to jobs on the ground in the construction sector, and – critically – schools opening the length and breadth of the country.”

Councillor Michael Kelly, executive member for services to children and young people, said it was an “incredibly exciting” time. “It’s been a difficult process to secure funding in the current economic climate, but we are still on schedule to deliver the schools. “We’ve been working hard to secure this money for the district and it’s great to see work forging ahead on site.”

Preparation work is under way at the four sites which will be completed in March, 2011.

Kath Tunstall, the Council’s strategic director for services to children and young people, said: “I’m particularly delighted that this will enable us to deliver the complete re-organisation of our special education services and provide first-class environments in which our children can learn.”

Tony Smith, the general manager of Local Education Partnership, Integrated Bradford, said the announcement was “excellent news for Bradford”. He said: “Everyone has pulled together to keep the programme on track through a period of financial instability, but the way is now clear to press ahead with the major programme of work.”

Integrated Bradford is a consortium led by Amey Costain and HSBC Infrastructure Management which works with the Council to deliver the district’s BSF programme.

The first three new schools opened last September – Tong High, Buttershaw and Titus Salt.

Phase three involves the re-building or re-modelling of 13 other secondary schools. The Council has submitted the Outline Business Case to Partnerships for Schools and design work and consultation is ongoing.

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u...vamp_millions/

The designs of Grange still look slightly cheap and tacky but it's much better than the current building;



I think the developers need to consult with local residents with the designs and try to make the buildings fit in with the surround buildings.

[Baht'at]

Originally Posted by Molly

Oh behave!


It's actually irritating but interesting. And I admit I for one wouldn't bother to read up and skim through the T&A to see what's going off in Bradford if I didn't have it shoved in my face like this.

Interesting to see Beckfoot developed. That is very good news.

OK which feminist moaned:

I do take it both you and whoever complained are both insisting that Molly change her title from rolling pin which is unacceptably sexist.

I respectfully suggest you purchase a new sense of humour so you can recognise it when it kicks you in the balls and a spine so that you can stand up to people who complain weeks after the post was made.

I hereby decline to take any further part in this forum until I recieve an apology for that stupid warning.

[Rob]

There is a fine line between humorous and offensive. I appreciate your reply was meant to be humorous, but in the view of some it overstepped the mark. Whether you continue posting is up to you, but I don't feel that an apology is required: I'm afraid the warning stands.

[Electric_City]

For christ's sake, Rob, don't you see what's happening? He might not ever post on here again! Apologise quickly or the whole forum is f****d!

[*-City Of Bradford-*]

Originally Posted by Electric_City

For christ's sake, Rob, don't you see what's happening? He might not ever post on here again! Apologise quickly or the whole forum is f****d!

Originally Posted by Rob

There is a fine line between humorous and offensive. I appreciate your reply was meant to be humorous, but in the view of some it overstepped the mark. Whether you continue posting is up to you, but I don't feel that an apology is required: I'm afraid the warning stands.

Excuse me Rob, I'm still waiting for your reply for why Broadsword got a month ban then came back after four days!

[Rob]

Originally Posted by *-City Of Bradford-*

Excuse me Rob, I'm still waiting for your reply for why Broadsword got a month ban then came back after four days!

Not sure, perhaps someone let him out? another moderator perhaps?
Anyway, he can always go back in if needs be.

[*-City Of Bradford-*]

Originally Posted by Rob

Not sure, perhaps someone let him out? another moderator perhaps?
Anyway, he can always go back in if needs be.

I just think people should actually serve their sentences for their crimes instead of constantly being let off for no reason at all.

[*-City Of Bradford-*]

Seems that the Council is actually doing something right for once:

Derelict and disused historic buildings in Bradford could be regenerated by developers following a major review of listed buildings, a senior conservation officer told business leaders yesterday.

Bradford Council is set to visit about 5,800 of the district’s grade I, II and III-listed buildings over the next year in a bid to protect those “at risk” in the first study of its kind for five years.

Previously, developers have criticised the high number of buildings where listed status prohibits or restricts them from being renovated.

However, John Ackroyd, a senior design and conservation officer for Bradford Council, told a meeting of Bradford Property Forum (BPF): “The results of this survey are vital for our works and they will give us an idea of how many listed buildings we have and how many are in disrepair or are vacant.”

He said there was the possibility of some buildings being de-listed so that they could be re-developed and that the Council would work with developers to discuss “appropriate” ways of altering buildings which remained listed. “We are supportive of complimentary new design in the historic built environment.”

The Council also has the power to intervene to save privately-owned properties, he said. One example is the 17th century grade II-listed Manningham Manor House in Rosebery Road, the district’s oldest building.

The Council is looking to serve its owner with a Compulsory Purchase Order (CPO) so that it could employ builders to sympathetically restore the former farmhouse.

Developer Andrew Mason, managing director of Newmason Properties and chairman of the BPF, welcomed the review of listed buildings.

He said: “In the past we have thought that the complicated nature of dealing with listed buildings was getting in the way of some schemes.

“It is great to see them doing something tremendously proactive to save buildings for generations to come.”

http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.u..._buildings___/

They should ask Langtree Artistian to take over the old Odeon Building, somehow I doubt they will listen.

[Baht'at]

Originally Posted by Rob

There is a fine line between humorous and offensive. I appreciate your reply was meant to be humorous, but in the view of some it overstepped the mark. Whether you continue posting is up to you, but I don't feel that an apology is required: I'm afraid the warning stands.

In that case please delete my account and all my posts, I do not participate in forums where the use of humour results in disciplinary action. All images sourced from my site should also be removed.

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Baht'at

In that case please delete my account and all my posts, I do not participate in forums where the use of humour results in disciplinary action. All images sourced from my site should also be removed.

Although I don't feel I should rescind the warning, I'm sorry you've taken the view not to participate on this forum, as your contributions have added some intelligent and well written comments previously.

As I thought was made clear, there is humour on the forum, but sometimes humour strays into areas that someone else can take personal offence at, which is the reason for the warning.

I can remove images sourced from your site if you want, please highlight the thread and page no. where they are displayed and I will remove them.