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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:29 AM   #2001
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one thing is for sure. if this bid wins, qatar will have to go out and hire more migrant workers to help them build their infrastructure. good for job creation but not permanent. If only Qatar had a big enough population... there will be a rising cost of living because of the stadia and city development but will there be people to pay for them ? Migrant workers will not pay those prices.
You mean hire more slaves. When I was living there, I felt sorry the most for these people. They're not even considered as human beings. They work for 12 hours a day in the desert sun. Qatar companies take their passports and Qatar requires exit permits for people to leave and these people are trapped for years without being able to even see their families. Workers rights are non existent in Qatar. I think it's even worse for the maids etc who go to work there.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:36 AM   #2002
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one thing is for sure. if this bid wins, qatar will have to go out and hire more migrant workers to help them build their infrastructure. good for job creation but not permanent. If only Qatar had a big enough population... there will be a rising cost of living because of the stadia and city development but will there be people to pay for them ? Migrant workers will not pay those prices.
Qatar building yearly mega projects we are working on large international airport under construction , the world longest causeway (45km) linking Qatar with Bahrain plus Qatar railways system (metro+trains networks) with rapid movement in construction skyscrapers, hotels and new cities or areas such as (Lusail, the pearl, Doha land) and many other such these projects carried out by international & local companies.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:41 AM   #2003
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Qatar will not get the WC for the same reasons it did not get the Olympics - it is too small. Full stop.

Qatar's best chances are by putting in a joint bid with UAE.
Opening ceremony in Doha, pools in Doha, Abu Dhabi, Dubai & Sharjah - possibly add in Bahrain & Kuwait - Final in Dubai.

It would be feasible.
that is wrong it was the weather and that why Qatar now offer the cooling technology by the way Dubai was planing to bid for Olympics & also as one city not as UAE.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:45 AM   #2004
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Ooops - You are right - Ramadan moves forward by 11 days a year, so it will be cleared by end of May so no problem. However festival of Eid will then be falling around 11th July so Final would need to be held before then.
lol give your self some time to read before you attack any bid
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:45 AM   #2005
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Qatar will not get the WC for the same reasons it did not get the Olympics - it is too small. Full stop.

Qatar's best chances are by putting in a joint bid with UAE.
Opening ceremony in Doha, pools in Doha, Abu Dhabi, Dubai & Sharjah - possibly add in Bahrain & Kuwait - Final in Dubai.

It would be feasible.
With one organising committee-would definitely be a much better bid that would have far more support.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:50 AM   #2006
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that is wrong it was the weather and that why Qatar now offer the cooling technology by the way Dubai was planing to bid for Olympics & also as one city not as UAE.
Fail

The Olympics is a SINGLE CITY BID
The World Cup is a NINE CITY BID

This is the very thing you've been choosing to ignore,especially since FIFA condemned the Doha single city bid last week
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:51 AM   #2007
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lol give your self some time to read before you attack any bid
?, He didn't attack anything.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:53 AM   #2008
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Tallsmurf, do you know when Ramadan will finish in 2022?
starting in 3 April 2022 & end 2 May 2022
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:54 AM   #2009
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?, He didn't attack anything.
provide wrong information is a rapid decision as he was think Qatar bid on 2018 there is a vast difference and Qatar never bid on 2018.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 08:58 AM   #2010
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Fail

The Olympics is a SINGLE CITY BID
The World Cup is a NINE CITY BID
I dare you to prove this ? go to FIFA web site and give me the condition link of 9 cities.

and yeah Qatar is not one city bid.
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Is it not possible he made a simple mistake, that is why we asked him for the 2022 dates for Ramadan?
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Old September 21st, 2010, 09:11 AM   #2012
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I dare you to prove this ? go to FIFA web site and give me the condition link of 9 cities.

and yeah Qatar is not one city bid.
Of course its not

Al-Shamal Stadium,Doha
Al-Khor Stadium,Doha
Al-Wakrah Stadium,Doha
Al-Rayyan Stadium,Doha
Sports City Stadium,Doha
Education City Stadium,Doha
Umm Slal Stadium,Doha
Qatar University Stadium,Doha
Khalifa International Stadium,Doha
Lusail National Stadium,Doha
Al-Gharrafa Stadium,Doha

I left one stadium out,can you please tell me what its called??

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Old September 21st, 2010, 09:17 AM   #2013
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sure this area deserve to host world cup as many other regions too. This area has more than 400 millions person want to see the worldcup for first time and there many teams qualified for the World Cup from this area.
Of course the area should host the WC at some point. Whether it "deserves" it is debatable.

So lets find a bid that can actually host the WC
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Old September 21st, 2010, 09:48 AM   #2014
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lol give your self some time to read before you attack any bid

Read again - I was not attacking bid - I was pointing out something that needs to be considered, which as I said was not inurmountable.

What is insurmountable is the size of Qatar which is simply too small. It is effectively a single city bid which will not be accepted.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:02 AM   #2015
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Why is it that everytime that someone says anything about Qatar its racist, even if it has nothing to do with the ethicity of its peoples or anything closely related to that subject.

Theres more to a bid than hearing only positives, and thats what Qatar found out recently with the evaluation commitee. All countries deal with it, and have learnt to accept it.

Crying wolf is not always a good idea
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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:38 AM   #2016
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Since FIFA rejected the Doha bid last week
you are liar and that happen in your dreams

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The World Cup is a NINE CITY BID
liar provide us with link of this condition from FIFA site

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Al-Shamal Stadium,Doha
liar Al-Shamal not in Doha and 100KM at north of Qatar
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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:53 AM   #2017
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liar provide us with link of this condition from FIFA site

what condition? that hosting an entire WC in 1 city will not be allowed by FIFA, not today, not in 2022 ...?

Why is a city like London, significantly more capable than Doha in terms of hosting WC matches not proposing the entire WC in its city? Why is Sydney not demanding 7 or 8 WC venues..... both significantly larger and more capable than Doha..London essentially hosts tons of matches around the city every weekend each filled to capacity....

So again I ask...why is London not hosting 10 venues?

Why is the US bid not just using LA?
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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:57 AM   #2018
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Why is it that everytime that someone says anything about Qatar its racist, even if it has nothing to do with the ethicity of its peoples or anything closely related to that subject.

Theres more to a bid than hearing only positives, and thats what Qatar found out recently with the evaluation commitee. All countries deal with it, and have learnt to accept it.

Crying wolf is not always a good idea
there many things been said about Qatar and even we (Qataris) discussed many points during past months but this not mean that there are some liars and racist acts such previous post when _X_ Claimed many lies.

I do not blame these guys because we have biased admin (Mo Rush) and he keep post many wrong information about Qatar bid and he act as debate Qatar bid here !! while he is against Qatar bidding and what he is doing is keep posting wrong information such as this post.

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10 venues in 1 city is far from an "understanding of a World Cup".
Wishfully far.
that is big lie because there are many stadiums in other cities.
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Old September 21st, 2010, 10:59 AM   #2019
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there many things been said about Qatar and even we (Qataris) discussed many points during past months but this not mean that there are some liars and racist acts such previous post when _X_ Claimed many lies.

I do not blame these guys because we have biased admin (Mo Rush) and he keep post many wrong information about Qatar bid and he act as debate Qatar bid here !! while he is against Qatar bidding and what he is doing is keep posting wrong information such as this post.



that is big lie because there are many stadiums in other cities.
which city? the one 16km away or the one 20 km away?
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Old September 21st, 2010, 11:15 AM   #2020
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what condition? that hosting an entire WC in 1 city will not be allowed by FIFA, not today, not in 2022 ...?

Why is a city like London, significantly more capable than Doha in terms of hosting WC matches not proposing the entire WC in its city? Why is Sydney not demanding 7 or 8 WC venues..... both significantly larger and more capable than Doha..London essentially hosts tons of matches around the city every weekend each filled to capacity....

So again I ask...why is London not hosting 10 venues?

Why is the US bid not just using LA?
you who keep posting that lie and talking about cities condition and you even do not know other than lie on people we know your support about Australia bid and this is your personal view but keep posting lies about Qatar bid is offends you alone not Qatar file or even any Qataris here.

just here simple example visit kenni profile and read last post in his profile
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/member.php?u=132586

many people started noticing what you doing in this thread and your posts.

I have told kenni about your acts and I can easly contact Jan too and will not take this matter from offical person more than seconds to drive what been wrote here to Qatar bid legal affairs to move against these ridges in such large forum.
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