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Old September 22nd, 2010, 03:59 AM   #2041
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The Lusail stadium looks really cool, just like all the other new stadiums . Apparently, 86,000 seats and within 7 km of Doha.
MO .. FORGET QATAR now. Don't talk QATAR BID's Topic. They should bid in 2038 or 2042. Joint Bid should be better Qatar/Bahrain or Qatar/UAE.

It is waste time talking debate qatar bid's. Qatar bid's is one big joke 2018/2022 world cup bid.

NETHERLANDs/Belgium - 2018 World cup joint Bids

Netherlands area ranked 135 - 37,354 Area(Km), 14,422 (Sq mi)
Belgium area ranked 139 - 30,528 Area(km), 11,787 (Sq mi)

Netherlands - 5 cities total 7 venues (Amsterdam, Eindhoven, Enschede, Heerenveen and Rotterdam)
Belgium - 7 venues (Antwerp, Bruges, Brussels, Charleroi, Genk, Ghent, Liege)

QATAR area ranked 163rd - 11,586 Area(km), 4,473(Sq mi)
Qatar 12 venues - one city(DOHA) - 6 venues - ??.

QATAR BIDs - Joke of the year 2010

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Old September 22nd, 2010, 01:53 PM   #2042
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QATAR BIDs - Joke of the year 2010

Its probably not that funny if you're a Qatari because your hopes were artificially raised to a ridiculous level
I can understand why Qatar bid as they did as a single city bid with the hope of changing FIFAs core requirement of diversity in host cities.They had no legal option regarding co hosting at the time.The Spatugal and Bennelux bids were outside FIFAs hosting criteria when lodged and in fact it took 14 months for Exco to be convinced that the proper framework had been drafted for a successful co hosting.Its obvious that up to 3 countries can now form a central organising committee for a joint bid.This will encourage some fantastic bids in the future from mid size economies and obviously paves the way for Argentina and Uruguay in 2030
The Doha bid is very good considering its size and other factors outside its control but with this new option available it leaves Qatar high and dry
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 02:13 PM   #2043
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QATAR BIDs - Joke of the year 2010
I'd go for Hambantota, Sri Lanka's bid for the 2018 Commonwealth Games as a joke, but with significant investment, it could possibly propose something decent. It won't win, but might raise the profile of the region and could boost another future bid.

That being said, Doha, and the rest of Qatar for that matter, should just stick to Olympic bidding, an event that they're more likely to get a stab at.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 04:41 PM   #2044
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Here's what I still don't get and haven't gotten an explanation on. Why does the Arab world deserve a World Cup? How many times are we going to micro-regionalize the world? If the Arab world becomes an area that deserves a World Cup then what about the Caribbean? Don't they? How about West Africa? Oceania hasn't hosted either. I hate these micro-regionalizations. They're ridiculous. FIFA has broken the world up by confederation and that should be it. There shouldn't be any further regionalization. Seriously, what makes the Arab world deserve a World Cup more than the other micro-regions in the world?
They all deserve but did anyone bid or win ? not yet...

but 2022 WILL be a change since it will be Australia OR Qatar. if these micro regions all deserve the world cup they should plan a bid.

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Qatar is not representative of the middle east, Qatar is a joke, no culture, no history. Just the other week Qatar chucked 2 Egyptians for espionage against Qatar into prison, no trial, nothing. Qatar is a failure at football, Qatar is a failure at meeting the FIFA requirements and quite frankly Qatar's bid should be withdrawn ASAP to avoid further embarrassment and wasting of time for everyone concerned.
I wasnet aware of a technology that is able to increase the size of the country to meet FIFA requirements . some of FIFA's rules have to be tweaked or ignored for this bid, live with it !.. Qatar so far is the only country taking care if some middle eastern countries problems such as, Yemen, Sudan, Lebanon, Djibouti-Eritrea.... Qatar is according to reports this week, the richest country in the World, the second richest ARAB/middleeastern country is Kuwait and it doesn't even reach half of what Qatar has. So YES, Qatar is playing a BIG role in the region, Egypt & Saudi Arabia are not taken seriously anymore and no need to refer to them for anything, Egypt has just recently had massive power cuts in the country because of no natural gas available, right now Egypt is surviving on Qatar's resources not to mention UAE, Oman, Kuwait and Bahrain which all use Qatars Natural gas wealth as a primary source for their power. without us, they wouldn't be working.

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The Lusail stadium looks really cool, just like all the other new stadiums . Apparently, 86,000 seats and within 7 km of Doha.
How could you say it "looks cool", when renders havent been released that. Mocking the bid ?

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I'd go for Hambantota, Sri Lanka's bid for the 2018 Commonwealth Games as a joke, but with significant investment, it could possibly propose something decent. It won't win, but might raise the profile of the region and could boost another future bid.

That being said, Doha, and the rest of Qatar for that matter, should just stick to Olympic bidding, an event that they're more likely to get a stab at.
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Qatar 12 venues - one city(DOHA) - 6 venues - ??.
Al-Shamal Stadium, Al-Shamal
Al-Khor Stadium, Al-Khor
Al-Wakrah Stadium, Al-Wakrah
Al-Rayyan Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Sports City Stadium, Doha
Education City Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Umm Slal Stadium, Umm Slal
Qatar University Stadium, Doha
Khalifa International Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Lusail National Stadium, Umm Slal
Al-Gharrafa Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Doha Port Stadium, Doha
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 04:44 PM   #2045
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They all deserve but did anyone bid or win ? not yet...

but 2022 WILL be a change since it will be Australia OR Qatar. if these micro regions all deserve the world cup they should plan a bid.
have you ruled out the USA already?
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 04:49 PM   #2046
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have you ruled out the USA already?
USA '94 ??

As you said, I ruled out (In addition to Japan and S.Korea)
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USA '94 ??

As you said, I ruled out (In addition to Japan and S.Korea)
Still reckon the USA is very much the favourite

and there was a reason I didn't ask about Japan/Korea
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 05:14 PM   #2048
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USA '94 ??

As you said, I ruled out (In addition to Japan and S.Korea)
But the US can guarantee sellouts in 70, 80, and 90 thousand seat stadiums, has 98% of the infrastructure in place already, and can help expand soccer more into the largest economy on the planet.

It would be foolish to rule them out simply because they hosted in 1994.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 05:27 PM   #2049
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5,000,000 spectators could be a record for WC attendance.

It would remain for the US bid to have some improvements for mass transit.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 06:03 PM   #2050
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Al-Shamal Stadium, Al-Shamal
Al-Khor Stadium, Al-Khor
Al-Wakrah Stadium, Al-Wakrah
Al-Rayyan Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Sports City Stadium, Doha
Education City Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Umm Slal Stadium, Umm Slal
Qatar University Stadium, Doha
Khalifa International Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Lusail National Stadium, Umm Slal
Al-Gharrafa Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Doha Port Stadium, Doha
this distribution based on municipal areas not cities locations
such as Al-Gharrafa city follow Rayyan Municipality
and Lusail City follow Umm Slal Municipality
etc .....

distribution on cities as following



Al-Shamal Stadium, Al-Shamal city
Al-Khor Stadium, Al-Khor city
Al-Wakrah Stadium, Al-Wakrah city
Al-Rayyan Stadium, Al-Rayyan city
Sports City Stadium, Doha city
Education City Stadium, Al-Rayyan city
Umm Slal Stadium, Umm Slal city
Qatar University Stadium, Lusail city
Khalifa International Stadium, Al-Waab city
Lusail National Stadium, Lusail city
Al-Gharrafa Stadium, Al-Gharrafa city
Doha Port Stadium, Doha city
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 07:44 PM   #2051
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They all deserve but did anyone bid or win ? not yet...

but 2022 WILL be a change since it will be Australia OR Qatar. if these micro regions all deserve the world cup they should plan a bid.



I wasnet aware of a technology that is able to increase the size of the country to meet FIFA requirements . some of FIFA's rules have to be tweaked or ignored for this bid, live with it !.. Qatar so far is the only country taking care if some middle eastern countries problems such as, Yemen, Sudan, Lebanon, Djibouti-Eritrea.... Qatar is according to reports this week, the richest country in the World, the second richest ARAB/middleeastern country is Kuwait and it doesn't even reach half of what Qatar has. So YES, Qatar is playing a BIG role in the region, Egypt & Saudi Arabia are not taken seriously anymore and no need to refer to them for anything, Egypt has just recently had massive power cuts in the country because of no natural gas available, right now Egypt is surviving on Qatar's resources not to mention UAE, Oman, Kuwait and Bahrain which all use Qatars Natural gas wealth as a primary source for their power. without us, they wouldn't be working.



How could you say it "looks cool", when renders havent been released that. Mocking the bid ?



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Al-Shamal Stadium, Al-Shamal
Al-Khor Stadium, Al-Khor
Al-Wakrah Stadium, Al-Wakrah
Al-Rayyan Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Sports City Stadium, Doha
Education City Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Umm Slal Stadium, Umm Slal
Qatar University Stadium, Doha
Khalifa International Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Lusail National Stadium, Umm Slal
Al-Gharrafa Stadium, Al-Rayyan
Doha Port Stadium, Doha
DEAR QATARSON .. U need mental treatment.
Al-Rayyan - 4 venues - Al-Rayyan and 3 venues - DOHA.!

Please ask Further bid details to Mr.Sepp Blatter.
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DEAR QATARSON .. U need mental treatment.
Al-Rayyan - 4 venues - Al-Rayyan and 3 venues - DOHA.!

Please ask Further bid details to Mr.Sepp Blatter.
Sir, I think you'll find that Qatar Son 333 is one of the only Qatari's who post here that don't need mental treatment.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 08:32 PM   #2053
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Sir, I think you'll find that Qatar Son 333 is one of the only Qatari's who post here that don't need mental treatment.
Pl Don't Call me Sir anymore.! Qatar Son 333 & QatarSon - both are same guy or 2 guy's.!
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:19 PM   #2054
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this distribution based on municipal areas not cities locations
such as Al-Gharrafa city follow Rayyan Municipality
and Lusail City follow Umm Slal Municipality
etc .....

distribution on cities as following



Al-Shamal Stadium, Al-Shamal city
Al-Khor Stadium, Al-Khor city
Al-Wakrah Stadium, Al-Wakrah city
Al-Rayyan Stadium, Al-Rayyan city
Sports City Stadium, Doha city
Education City Stadium, Al-Rayyan city
Umm Slal Stadium, Umm Slal city
Qatar University Stadium, Lusail city
Khalifa International Stadium, Al-Waab city
Lusail National Stadium, Lusail city
Al-Gharrafa Stadium, Al-Gharrafa city
Doha Port Stadium, Doha city
Is that "Lusail City" the one 7km from Doha?
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:21 PM   #2055
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Pl Don't Call me Sir anymore.! Qatar Son 333 & QatarSon - both are same guy or 2 guy's.!


As waqif said, its based on municipal borders, so its reasonable.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:22 PM   #2056
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I might be dreaming but did somebody suggest FIFA's "tweak" their rules as in entirely change them for a country of 1.6 million?
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As waqif said, its based on municipal borders, so its reasonable.
*sigh*.
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:35 PM   #2058
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Today we had a great exciting football match that had Qatar's Al-Gharrafa and Saudi Arabia's Al-Hilal play with the final score being 4-2 for Al-Gharrafa. We had an attendance of at least 12,000 with a good percentage of them Saudi's ! This is my first experience when it comes to travelling fans and its great to see it happen ! what was touching though was that they brought their banners and signs of support for Qatar 2022 World Cup.

such as this one:


The match was played at Al-Gharrafa Stadium, and its a 25K stadium, so 12K attendance for a small match at a country which doesn't really have the best attendances is great ! this mean that for 2022, 25K stadiums post world cup are sustainable, NO WHITE ELEPHANTS !!!
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 10:49 PM   #2059
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Does it? Can you really extrapolate one match in one staduim to predict how several stadiums will cope over several years????
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Old September 22nd, 2010, 11:14 PM   #2060
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Qatar Son, I think you forgot to mention the most important, i.e that the Gulf is a unified region, citizens can cross borders freely, currencies have the same value, etc. To put it in a nutshell, traveling is easy and convenient.

Yes if there is an event of international repute in Doha, you'll see many other Gulf nationals coming just for the day. Saudis who came for the game today drove back, and are already sleeping in their bed at home right now.

Last year when the England-Brazil friendly was held in Doha, tickets were only released in Qatar malls first, then online. If tickets had been online right away, you can bet the demand coming from Saudi & UAE would have been huge compared the stadium capacity of 70,000. Good to see that Qatar residents were taken into consideration and were given a favour

For this reason I don't believe one second stadiums would be empty during the WC, Qatar has to be considered as part of a region of 40 million inhabitants, not as a country of 1.6 million with closed borders.
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