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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:40 PM   #561
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Outdoor Stadiums with this "high tech cooling system".

Has this been tested yet?
Does it work in a practical stadium environment?
How does the wind affect?
How does it effect the heat index?
Spectators..Will they be Cooler?Hotter?
What do the footballers think?
Can it really turn a 40deg temp outside into 27deg inside?

None of these questions(and many more) can possibly be answered until it is tested in a real stadium environment.

If it hasnt been tested,there is no way ...no way,that FIFA can award the WC to Qatar.
ExSydney, you answers could be found below.

"The bid unveiled five carbon-neutral, air-conditioned stadia in Dubai yesterday. The five stadiums were revealed alongside a showcase stadium, which will be completed in July. We’re creating the showcase stadium to demonstrate the technology we’ll use to keep our stadiums, all of which are outdoors, at a cool and constant 27 degrees Celsius during the FIFA World Cup™."

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And here are the pictures of the "Showcase Stadium".

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And yes qatarson, we have had matches cooled with air-conditioning in Qatar before, but currently its not energy or environmentally friendly.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:44 PM   #562
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yes..We have seen the models and heard the talk.
It still doesnt answer my question.

Has a football match been played where the temp is 45deg and the outdoor stadium is a cool 27deg?
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:46 PM   #563
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So... no source? Other then "we have a lot of children" thing.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #564
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yes..We have seen the models and heard the talk.
It still doesnt answer my question.

Has a football match been played where the temp is 45deg and the outdoor stadium is a cool 27deg?
yes this techonlogy used existing stadiums like aspire zone and others but the new stadiums will be construction will with technology-friendly environment in next years.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:48 PM   #565
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I told you about the 2016 figures, i searched for the official website for the "source" but the bad news is that the website has broken down "abandoned" since we didnt get the bid..
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:49 PM   #566
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So... no source? Other then "we have a lot of children" thing.
Mo Rush Are you waiting to speak to admin !
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yes..We have seen the models and heard the talk.
It still doesnt answer my question.

Has a football match been played where the temp is 45deg and the outdoor stadium is a cool 27deg?
From what you said i can see you "did not" read the first part of the article.

It "clearly" says it will be done by July so expect trials in JULY.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:50 PM   #568
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I give up... you attack every single person who tries to say something about Qatar bid and you already got this thread closed for months. Keep on with the good job
At least we come from civilized countries where parents teach there children to always be polite and nice, in other words "solopop" is the exact opposite, with continuous use of "bad language" that is not needed. This is obviously not a way to represent your country.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 04:58 PM   #569
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Mo Rush Are you waiting to speak to admin !
Why?
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:00 PM   #570
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From what you said i can see you "did not" read the first part of the article.

It "clearly" says it will be done by July so expect trials in JULY.
So..the answer is ..No...

How is construction going on "showcase stadium"?..Must be nearly finished?
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:07 PM   #571
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I don't think its almost finished, but its indeed under construction, but the officials didn't state where it is exactly, or else i could have went to check on progress myself.

But the Cooling technologies were done here before, but the 2022 Bid proposes an entirely new way of cooling the stadium using carbon-neutral technologies. it will be implemented in the completely brand new stadiums as well as the stadiums that will be renewed.

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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:11 PM   #572
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I don't think its almost finished, but its indeed under construction, but the officials didn't state where it is exactly, or else i could have went to check on progress myself.

Nut the Cooling technologies were done here before, but the 2022 Bid proposes an entirely new way of cooling the stadium using carbon-neutral technologies. it will be implemented in the completely brand new stadiums as well as the stadiums that will be renewed.
Aspire zone has this technology
http://www.aspirezone.qa/home/index.aspx



but the new in world cup stadiums will use the same technology with eco-friendly materials.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:13 PM   #573
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I don't think its almost finished, but its indeed under construction, but the officials didn't state where it is exactly,
You have a 40,000 seat stadium currently being built in Qatar,to be finished in 6 weeks and no one knows where it is?
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Aspire zone has this technology
http://www.aspirezone.qa/home/index.aspx



but the new in world cup stadiums will use the same technology with eco-friendly materials.
Large Indoor Stadiums have been airconditioned for 40 years.
Nothing new here..
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WHAT ? no its not a 40,000 seat stadium.

Its barely a stadium ? i think it involves just a section and used to test the cooling only, its for testing ONLY. not a full scale stadium.
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Large Indoor Stadiums have been airconditioned for 40 years.
Nothing new here..
that isnt indoor it is outdoor and indoor at same time anyway you now answered your question that tehcnology can do these things since 40 years ago and will service us for next coming years.
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WHAT ? no its not a 40,000 seat stadium.

Its barely a stadium ? i think it involves just s section and used to test the cooling only, its for testing ONLY. not a full scale stadium.
Not much of a test then is it.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:23 PM   #578
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Yes it is a test, as it test the lower and upper tiers for temperature differences and the fields and how much time does it time to cool it down etc.
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Old May 16th, 2010, 05:29 PM   #579
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At least we come from civilized countries where parents teach there children to always be polite and nice, in other words "solopop" is the exact opposite, with continuous use of "bad language" that is not needed. This is obviously not a way to represent your country.
I didn't insult you, unlike what you are doing to EVERY SINGLE other user here, including moderators. I simply state that you are acting like spoiled kids because you are unable to hear opinion of other people. And please don't talk about my country if you don't know anything about it. I certainly didn't comment anything on Qatar. I did a comment on Qatari bid, just like everyone else here. It's not our problem that you consider critic of you bid as sign of hostility towards you and your country.

Cheers.

As for cooling technique.. training camps better have one as well, or 20C drop in just few hours is heart attack waiting to happen. Human body (even if the one of pro athlete) cannot cope with 90 mins of pressure under such rapid change of environment.

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I didn't insult you, unlike what you are doing to EVERY SINGLE other user here, including moderators. I simply state that you are acting like spoiled kids because you are unable to hear opinion of other people. And please don't talk about my country if you don't know anything about it. I certainly didn't comment anything on Qatar. I did a comment on Qatari bid, just like everyone else here. It's not our problem that you consider critic of you bid as sign of hostility towards you and your country.

Cheers.

As for cooling technique.. training camps better have one as well, or 20C drop in just few hours is hearth attack waiting to happen. Human body (even if the one of pro athlete) cannot cope with 90 mins of pressure under such rapid change of environment.

Spicy, I was explaining only, i didn't at any time point fingers at you or anyone, but the people that do disrespect/insult they should be ashamed of themselves.

Cheers

As for the cooling technique, Yes the Stadium, Training fields and Fan zones will all be cooled using this carbon-neutral energy efficient technology. and obviously the Transportation and Accommodation will all be air conditioned which is a normal thing here in Qatar.
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