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Old June 15th, 2010, 06:29 PM   #821
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Doha to host internationall sport press forum in September

Doha, 15 June 2010- Doha will host the international sport press forum from 13 to 17 September 2010 to promote Qatar's bid for hosting 2022 FIFA world cup.

Qatar Sport Press Committee (QSPC) has unveiled its plan to support Qatar 2022 world cup bid by organizing an international sport press forum in September 2010.

The forum will coincide the visit of FIFA delegation to Qatar for inspecting the Qatari sports facilities before announcement of hosting countries of FIFA world Cups 2018 and 2022 on 02 December 2010.

QSPC has invited 40 journalists from all Arab Countries, Members of Football Committee in International Sport Press Association and representatives of Qatar Media.

Mr. Mohammad Al Malki, QSPC President said that the forum will feature discussions and presentations on the Qatari preparations for the 2022 FIFA world Cup.

Al Malki extended his appreciation to HE Sheikh Mohammad Bin Hamad Al Thani, Chairman of Qatar 2022 Bid Committee for his support to Qatari sport press.
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Looks good.

What's with all the malls, though?
Malls is the best choose for place like Qatar where people can spend time inside the malls during the hot hours between 12pm 4pm in summer hot months which some times reach 40c so in these hours you can do all your normall activites inside the large malls which have shops , park , lake & boats , ski hall , cinemas , theme parks and many of entertainment activities and all with large Airconditoned malls , Qatar have tens of these Malls in all it is cities and Mall Idea is came from USA which is perfect solution for hot places like Las vegas , texas cities and of course dubai & Qatar.
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Ah, it all makes sense now.

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And the matches will be played at sunset/night timings, so other than that fans could take part in numerous activities including going to Malls (also counts as shelter), visiting museums and traditional souqs or even going out for dune bashing in the desert. But it is best to avoid heat/sun exposure for a long time.
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Are you watching this World Cup? The matches are played at 13:30, 16:00 and 20:30. So what kind of schedule is suggested in Qatar bid? Game after midnight (local time)?
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Are you watching this World Cup? The matches are played at 13:30, 16:00 and 20:30. So what kind of schedule is suggested in Qatar bid? Game after midnight (local time)?
South Africa is +2 GMT, Qatar is +3, so i guess it will be held one hour later to be "appropriate" for European timings... but the point is to completely avoid mid day and be "as close as possible" to sunset timings... And cooling will be available for Stadiums, Fanzones and Training fields, cooled to 27 degrees.
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No you didn't understand me. I was asking for when the games will be played on your local time. Remember there are 3 games per day so: 1. game 19:00, 2. game 21:30 and 3. game 24:00???(is this what schedule would be like???) I was talking about the fact that the third game of a day would be played very late on your local time, and that would be very bad for the players. How about the fans? Who would go to see a game that late?
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Old June 16th, 2010, 01:14 AM   #828
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Your the only person that made reference to that timing ! its impossible to do this. i don't think the bid committee are total idiots. I only referred to time saying its best to avoid mid-day as much as possible, clearly the shaded and cooled stadiums are going to help a lot so the fans/players feel comfortable, so the first match at around 14:00 or 15:00 local time is appropriate.
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And the matches will be played at sunset/night timings, so other than that fans could take part in numerous activities including going to Malls (also counts as shelter), visiting museums and traditional souqs or even going out for dune bashing in the desert. But it is best to avoid heat/sun exposure for a long time.
Really I'm the only one that made that comment?
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Qatar 2022 is set to be a completely new type of World Cup, A Family-Oriented, Micro World Cup. A colorful clash between East & West, New Iconic Stadiums will create lasting legacies for local communities. Using green carbon-neutral energy efficient cooling technologies will comfort fans to a 27 degree temperature. Promoting a new understanding of the Middle Eastern culture and eliminating common misconceptions and stereotypes.

A country with sports passion that has so much to offer.


A vibrant history that shows its presence across the nation.


Clinging to tradition and welcoming modernity, a complex mix of diversity.


Stepping out of a car to find yourself in the past.


Luxurious Hotels & Resorts add prestige.


A chance to learn more about a religion, through art.


Home of the World's 5-Star Airline.


A playground for the rich, symbolic of a Nation's capabilities.


Spacious entertainment, catering and retail ready for any major event.

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Really I'm the only one that made that comment?
Well you were certainly the only person that made reference to midnight matches, i was referring to the "most comfortable" timings which are near sunset and night.
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I love that you are so passionate about your country Qatar son 333, you really do go all out to try and sprouk from city/country.

All countries have so much to do, which in most cases, can spread people over a greater distance, rediucing stress on 1 city. Qatar does not have that luxury though. The pure demand of the WC really has not dawned on Qatar I would not suspect. There are so many things going against the Qatari bid, in areas of the weather, the country size, the infrastructure required and the lack of population to fill stadiums. All are huge issues to overcome and all put your bid on the backfoot from the first minute. Thats what people are saying over and over, and will continue to say. You will continue to pull out all the other positives, overlooking the negatives and on it will gooooo..... We just want you to see how hard it would be for your country to host it alone.
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I love that you are so passionate about your country Qatar son 333, you really do go all out to try and sprouk from city/country.

All countries have so much to do, which in most cases, can spread people over a greater distance, rediucing stress on 1 city. Qatar does not have that luxury though. The pure demand of the WC really has not dawned on Qatar I would not suspect. There are so many things going against the Qatari bid, in areas of the weather, the country size, the infrastructure required and the lack of population to fill stadiums. All are huge issues to overcome and all put your bid on the backfoot from the first minute. Thats what people are saying over and over, and will continue to say. You will continue to pull out all the other positives, overlooking the negatives and on it will gooooo..... We just want you to see how hard it would be for your country to host it alone.
if world cup happen in Qatar 2022 it will be the first world cup fans can watch all matches happen in the same day and they can move between the Qatar cities in less than 30 mintues between each city also fans from GCC (6 countries) can watch these matches in less 30-1 houre by fast trains network we have no problem with weather , population or transports all these points explained in Qatar bid file.

as everyone knew Qatar will airconditioned the stadiums plus Qatar will host the world cup in between (April-June) not in August or September and the weather in (April-June) is (Max 35c- Min 20c) and you have to know very well that Fifa allowed Middle East and Asian teams or any other team to play in matches the temperature was over 35c and not this only we all saw how team like Australia qualifieded to worldcup after played in Qatar last september and won 3-1 in temperature over 40c and the staudim was fully of fans and non airconditioned and aslo Japan, Newsland all of them played in temperature over 40c during summer months and Qatar hosted many of Fifa events in past and next year will host AFC Cup 2011 in same weather conditions and on non airconditioned stadiums also and these stadiums will be fully of fans from Qatar and the region we talk about law and the estimated all allow to play in these weather conditons like our teams can play in temperature lower than zero and with all this deep explaining don't we forget the stadiums will be airconditioned as first time in world cup and this is bounce from the hosting country for fans enjoyment

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if world cup happen in Qatar 2022 it will be the first world cup fans can watch all matches happen in the same day and they can move between the Qatar cities in less than 30 mintues between each city also fans from GCC (6 countries) can watch these matches in less 30-1 houre by fast trains network we have no problem with weather , population or transports all these points explained in Qatar bid file.

as everyone knew Qatar will airconditioned the stadiums plus Qatar will host the world cup in between (April-June) not in August or September and the weather in (April-June) is (Max 35c- Min 20c) and you have to know very well that Fifa allowed Middle East and Asian teams or any other team to play in matches the temperature was over 35c and not this only we all saw how team like Australia qualifieded to worldcup after played in Qatar last september and won 3-1 in temperature over 40c and the staudim was fully of fans and non airconditioned and aslo Japan, Newsland all of them played in temperature over 40c during summer months and Qatar hosted many of Fifa events in past and next year will host AFC Cup 2011 in same weather conditions and on non airconditioned stadiums also and these stadiums will be fully of fans from Qatar and the region we talk about law and the estimated all allow to play in these weather conditons like our teams can play in temperature lower than zero and with all this deep explaining don't we forget the stadiums will be airconditioned as first time in world cup and this is bounce from the hosting country for fans enjoyment
There are massive holes in what you are saying.
A few points
-You cannot rely on the fans from other countries to fill your stadiums.South Africa can attest to this with less than expected and many more tickets going on sale to their general public.Add to the fact of 40+ temperatures,no alchohol and the expectation that they can all "hang out at malls"...I cant see you guys having much success in attraction the average football fans from around the World.

-You are dreaming if you think the WC can be held between Apr-Jun...That wont happen.The WC must be held between June and July to cater for the European leagues around the World.June and July are Qatars hottest months.

-If I remember the Game between Australia and Qatar in 2009...It was played at night

-The 2011 Asian Cup in Qatar will NOT be held in the "same conditions".The 2011 Asian Cup will be held in January.Qatars coolest month with Max temps hovering between 20-25degC.

-The simple fact is that OUTDOOR airconditioned stadiums have not been fully tested in match conditions,in a large stadium with a capacity crowd anywhere in the World.Thats a big risk to take if in fact it doesnt work as well as they wouldve liked.Put it this way..If FIFA arent happy with it after giving Qatar the 2022 WC,we may see the first all indoor WC in history and Im not sure the purists of Football worldwide are going to enjoy it.
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When they said air conditioned stadiums I thought that there will be some stadiums with full roof, but they are thinking of an outdoor stadiums with air condition? Is that even possible? I seriously doubt that solar panels alone can power that beast of a system, especially if they put those huge LED screens on the facade. But again maybe there is a solution so please enlighten us. If you don't know please don't post: "I cant believe you ask us that!".Little advice for people from Qatar. It is OK to question things even if they come from your country. I don't know why you defend every thing from this bid even if they dont make a lot of sense or if they are not very well explained. Take a look around this forum. In every other bid on this forum its usually people from the biding country that ask the most questions and that are criticizing bad things from the bid. That is because they want it to succeed, and to have a bid that is free of problems. But you here are just blind and refuse to accept any criticism.
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July are Qatars hottest months.
that not right August the hottest month in Qatar and Middle East and matches can played even in August and September as what happen to Fifa Worldcup qualifying matches in Qatar or Dubai.

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You cannot rely on the fans from other countries to fill your stadiums
of course there no match in worldcup history have larger 150,000 seat and this less than our population 10% and we can have fans from our local league over than 500,000 fans for each match beacouse our population todays over 1.7 million and in 2022 is over 3.5 million and of course we will have fans from all world and we expect millions of fans from GCC countries which share with us same weather conditions and they are football lovers and Im sure they have the priority in buying tickets becouse Qatar bid not for making Qataris dream come true it is for allowing all millions in GCC and Middle East region to watch Worldcup matches in one of largest worldcup in history.

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If I remember the Game between Australia and Qatar in 2009...It was played at night
yes it is played in night but what a night it was in heart of the summer (September) and our team can play in day time but I think the Australian they cant and in 2022 everyone can play in day time because the stadiums will be (25c - 27c) and no matter what is the month is.

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The simple fact is that OUTDOOR airconditioned stadiums have not been fully tested in match conditions,in a large stadium with a capacity crowd anywhere in the World.Thats a big risk to take if in fact it doesnt work as well as they wouldve liked.Put it this way..If FIFA arent happy with it after giving Qatar the 2022 WC,we may see the first all indoor WC in history and Im not sure the purists of Football worldwide are going to enjoy it.
It is been tested we have airconditioned stadiums this isn't new technology it is been using in Qatar long time ago and this is normal thing here but the new in worldcup stadiums is the carbon technology which is natural eco-friendly.
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When they said air conditioned stadiums I thought that there will be some stadiums with full roof, but they are thinking of an outdoor stadiums with air condition? Is that even possible?.
that is fact on ground and we have outdoor stadiums air conditioned and fifa members such Mr Blater and Mr Platiny saw it in major events in the past and other FIFA members will visit Qatar during next summer (September) and they will visit Al-Sad Stadium which is using aircondtioned system.

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especially if they put those huge LED screens on the facade. But again maybe there is a solution so please enlighten us
this is another bounce as 45,000 fans inside the stadium there will be lot fans watching the match outside in fan zone which is airconditioned too and by the way we isn't the first nation using this technology Saudi's used another different technology to aircondition Haj season which some times come in summer and they used water vapor, clouds synthetic coolant to cover a distance of 5km and more than 3 million person praying in this outdoor area since (15 years ago) but the Qatari technology is much modern and natural eco-friendly and will be used for first time in worldcup.

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In every other bid on this forum its usually people from the biding country that ask the most questions and that are criticizing bad things from the bid. That is because they want it to succeed, and to have a bid that is free of problems. But you here are just blind and refuse to accept any criticism.
we are blind !!!!!! you don't see the fact Qatar file is the popular file between all Asian files and this isn't my opinion it is the most file get support by countries and politics men and sport community and the winner of media press surveys and if we back to normal People in world will find the following

Qatar



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USA

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Wow thats the most reliable source I have ever seen! If Qatar's Facebook page has the most fans then it's a shoe in! Qatar is definitely getting 2022.

Jokes aside, don't bother using ANY information from Facebook. No one with a brain will/should take it seriously.
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I love that you are so passionate about your country Qatar son 333, you really do go all out to try and sprouk from city/country.

All countries have so much to do, which in most cases, can spread people over a greater distance, rediucing stress on 1 city. Qatar does not have that luxury though. The pure demand of the WC really has not dawned on Qatar I would not suspect. There are so many things going against the Qatari bid, in areas of the weather, the country size, the infrastructure required and the lack of population to fill stadiums. All are huge issues to overcome and all put your bid on the backfoot from the first minute. Thats what people are saying over and over, and will continue to say. You will continue to pull out all the other positives, overlooking the negatives and on it will gooooo..... We just want you to see how hard it would be for your country to host it alone.
Yes at the moment definitely not, but by 2022 we will be ready for this international bonanza.

Infrastructure and country size relate to each other strongly, the leaders of this country realized that having a small country is a good thing, why ? you might ask, well its because dot o the small size for the country, this means fans can have the option of staying in going to see matches from Doha and coming back in the same day, this means heavy accommodation outside Doha wouldn't be necessary, and they have options of taking the roads (Buses, Taxi's or rented cars) or Metro, and in some cases for certain stadiums Water Taxi.

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There are massive holes in what you are saying.
A few points
-You cannot rely on the fans from other countries to fill your stadiums.South Africa can attest to this with less than expected and many more tickets going on sale to their general public.Add to the fact of 40+ temperatures,no alchohol and the expectation that they can all "hang out at malls"...I cant see you guys having much success in attraction the average football fans from around the World.

-You are dreaming if you think the WC can be held between Apr-Jun...That wont happen.The WC must be held between June and July to cater for the European leagues around the World.June and July are Qatars hottest months.

-If I remember the Game between Australia and Qatar in 2009...It was played at night

-The 2011 Asian Cup in Qatar will NOT be held in the "same conditions".The 2011 Asian Cup will be held in January.Qatars coolest month with Max temps hovering between 20-25degC.

-The simple fact is that OUTDOOR airconditioned stadiums have not been fully tested in match conditions,in a large stadium with a capacity crowd anywhere in the World.Thats a big risk to take if in fact it doesnt work as well as they wouldve liked.Put it this way..If FIFA arent happy with it after giving Qatar the 2022 WC,we may see the first all indoor WC in history and Im not sure the purists of Football worldwide are going to enjoy it.
Sure we can rely on fans ! think of it this way, if an Arab country is in the World Cup, there will be amazing support ! so for this edition Qatar will be there, but if a country like Egypt or Saudi Arabia qualify, the attendances will be amazing, the Saudis are really "football crazy" so weather they qualify or not they will be here in amazing numbers, and they will most likely come by land too.

40+ temperature yes, in mid-day though, temperatures at night reach 25-30 which is an amazing difference, cooling stadiums will only assist the "natural" change in temperature, it will "speed up" the process in the stadium to get temperatures of around 27 degrees, and this technology will not be limited to stadiums alone, but also training pitches and fan-zones, and since we are on the topic, certain fan-zones will offer Alcoholic drinks, but they will certainly not be available in the stadium, this settles the alcohol doubts.

In reference the the world cup qualifier games, they were in a weather that will be "identical" to the cooling temperatures in the stadiums, and as i said before, open air cooling has been done before in Qatar, in Khalifa International Stadium and In alsadd stadium, however the cooling technologies for the Qatar 2022 bid will be eco-friendly.

Oh and they are building a model to test the cooling right now, it will be ready in July and it will be seen by the FIFA inspectors.

(The cooling model stadium, By Mo Rush)



(Current cooling techniques, not eco-friendly)


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When they said air conditioned stadiums I thought that there will be some stadiums with full roof, but they are thinking of an outdoor stadiums with air condition? Is that even possible? I seriously doubt that solar panels alone can power that beast of a system, especially if they put those huge LED screens on the facade. But again maybe there is a solution so please enlighten us. If you don't know please don't post: "I cant believe you ask us that!".Little advice for people from Qatar. It is OK to question things even if they come from your country. I don't know why you defend every thing from this bid even if they dont make a lot of sense or if they are not very well explained. Take a look around this forum. In every other bid on this forum its usually people from the biding country that ask the most questions and that are criticizing bad things from the bid. That is because they want it to succeed, and to have a bid that is free of problems. But you here are just blind and refuse to accept any criticism.
Who said its not explained ???? maybe you missed that point in these pages so i am just going to repeat again.

The Stadiums will have solar panels (on top or next to them) and this will harness solar power all the time when the stadium is not in use, this will feed the National electrical grid, when matches are going to be played, the power for the lightning and cooling will be taken from the grid and this way we can achieve a carbon-neutral energy efficient cooling technology.

As i said before they are going to make tests this July to confirm there proposals and the FIFA inspectors will come and see it themselves. see the pictures above for the Cooling Model Stadium.

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Wow thats the most reliable source I have ever seen! If Qatar's Facebook page has the most fans then it's a shoe in! Qatar is definitely getting 2022.

Jokes aside, don't bother using ANY information from Facebook. No one with a brain will/should take it seriously.
There is nothing wrong in stating the support the bid is getting, i mean i have been watching closely and the Qatari bid gets a thousand supporters each day now,a lot of them are Arabs and Africans (South Africa specifically) its clear that its ARAB support. It might not be reliable but it helps i knowing what the general public thinks of Qatar hosting the World Cup 2022.

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Qatar Son 333, I think we all just will just have to agree to disagree that you understand how big this is for a large country, in size and population, let alone a country of what is 1 major city.

You will not listen so I will leave you to your dream of a Qatari WC in 2022. Dare to dream!
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