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Old March 26th, 2009, 05:57 AM   #161
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Old March 26th, 2009, 02:13 PM   #162
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Is that meant to read 'country clubs' or 'country's clubs'?
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Old March 26th, 2009, 03:23 PM   #163
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If you're talking about football, I can sympathise up to a point.

If you're talking in general, that's a silly thing to say. Middle-Eastern investment is allowing many projects in London to go ahead which might otherwise struggle to find funding at the moment. Saying that doesn't mean I agree with our Qutari friends about their cities rivalling places such as London as international centres though. And nor does it make me believe they are capable of hosting a world cup.

But middle-eastern money is not something that can be sniffed at. HSBC only didn't go to our government for a bail out because they were able to raise funds in this region instead. And the Shard of Glass (LBT) wouldn't be going ahead without this money either.
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Old March 26th, 2009, 03:47 PM   #164
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If you're talking about football, I can sympathise up to a point.

If you're talking in general, that's a silly thing to say. Middle-Eastern investment is allowing many projects in London to go ahead which might otherwise struggle to find funding at the moment. Saying that doesn't mean I agree with our Qutari friends about their cities rivalling places such as London as international centres though. And nor does it make me believe they are capable of hosting a world cup.

But middle-eastern money is not something that can be sniffed at. HSBC only didn't go to our government for a bail out because they were able to raise funds in this region instead. And the Shard of Glass (LBT) wouldn't be going ahead without this money either.
That's what you think, Qatar is not affected by the recession and has no problem in funding, you might expect that in UAE but not Qatar, construction is still ongoing.
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Old March 26th, 2009, 04:26 PM   #165
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We arn't giving u any of our black gold (we dont want to), but on the other hand, tell me.. Why was the UK intrested in Qatar's Gas supply again ?? infact first export started thid month... as of now a "percentage" of your electricity is from our gas....
Necessary evil my son. But in reality, that still won't make people want to live work in play in qatar over lets say Bognor Regis...
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Old March 26th, 2009, 04:31 PM   #166
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You guys are like an army of deluded individuals. You haven't given any good reasons, and continually harp on about how you'll rule the world!
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Old March 26th, 2009, 04:48 PM   #167
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what like the fact that qatar will not get the world cup ever!! It's dumb that you even think they will, and it's dumb that you think Doha will ever compete with London, New York et al
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Thread being reopened. Any conflict and its closed permanently. Infractions available for those who misbehave.
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Old April 29th, 2010, 10:48 PM   #170
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Are you serious with this bid... it looks impossible Qatar to host the WC... They got the money and the enthusiasm but their country/population is small for hosting such a big event like Football WC. Maybe Qatar can host it with some of their neighbours . It's better for Doha do bid for the Olympic Games. I'm sure that they'll get them in the near future.
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Old April 29th, 2010, 10:53 PM   #171
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Can you show us the projects for the new stadiums, or pictures of the hosting cities?
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Old April 29th, 2010, 11:24 PM   #172
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I quoted some information for the Qatar 2022 thread in the Qatar Forum.

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The Qatar 2022 Bid team revealed the first five stadiums in Al-Gharafa, Al-Khor, Al-Rayyan, Al-Shamal and Al-Wakrah. I think they are amazing! What do you think?

The existing 21,175 capacity Al-Gharafa stadium will be expanded to 44,740 seats using modular elements forming an upper tier. The facade will be made up of ribbons representing the nations that qualify for the 2022 FIFA World Cup and will symbolize football and the mutual friendship, tolerance and respect that the tournament represents. The stadium will be downscaled to its existing capacity after the tournament ends





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The existing Al-Rayyan Stadium with a seating capacity of 21,282 will be expanded to 44,740 seats using modular elements to form an upper tier.
The stadium is designed with a special "media facade" membrane that acts as a screen for projecting news, updates and current matches.
The stadium will be downsized to its current capacity after the tournament.





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The brand new 45,120 capacity Al-Wakrah stadium will be located in a sports complex that will consist of an aquatic centre, spa, sports facilities and a mall. The centre will be a bustling centre 365 days a year and is adjacent to the future routing of the Doha Expressway.





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Al-Khor is a brand new 45,330 capacity stadium with a stunning seashell motif and a flexible roof. The permanent lower tier seats 25,500 and the modular upper tier seats 19,830. The stadium offers spectators a stunning view of the Arabian Gulf from their seats and will be located in a sports and recreation zone.





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The brand new Al-Shamal stadium has a capacity of 45,120 with a permanent lower tier of 25,500 seats and a modular upper tier of 19,620 seats. The stadiums shape is derived from the "dhow" fishing boat of the Arabian Gulf. Spectators are expected to arrive from the Doha Expressway, water taxis, the Bahrain-Qatar Friendship Bridge and the new metrorail.



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I'm copying this very interesting info contained in a magazine made by the Qatar Olympic Committee :

- Lusail National Stadium (86,000 seats): venue for the tournament final. The venue is set among a host of facilities for fans to enjoy themselves in the build up to the tournament, including the Lusail International Race Circuit, the Lusail Entertainment Centre, as well as the magically sparkling waterfront.

- Doha Port Stadium (43,500 seats): will be visible from afar at night, giving the illusion of floating out at sea and making for spectacular television images from the air, to be beamed by billions of viewers across the globe. After the last game of the World Cup has been played, as part of Qatar's legacy to football across the globe, the stadium will be down-scaled and its modules used to construct new stadiums in other countries of the developing world.

- Khalifa International Stadium (70,000 seats): the stadium will be transformed into a 70,000-seat stadium that will personify Qatar's unique blend of tradition and modernity.

- The stunning backdrops of the stadiums which Qatar has planned include the iconic Education City complex, as well as the Doha Port area near the Old Souqs. Additional stadiums are planned in Al Khor, Al Wakrah and Al Shamal, ensuring that Qatar's continued investments in sport infrastructure brings benefits to local communities in the major population centres.
Cooling Technology



Sheikh Mohammed bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, Chairman of the Commission file Qatar 2022: "The disclosure today football high quality we have and cooling technology innovation as the latest step in our quest to bring World Cup football to the Middle East for the first time in 2022 ".

"The World Cup football in Qatar will leave a legacy of strong, bringing together nations and cultures through our joint football. These plans show how serious we are and our innovation and our determination to host the World Cup, which would provide a great experience for the players and the fans and the media and the Our stadiums will be equipped with a modern way, where the cooling equipment will contain a carbon-neutral through the use of solar energy technology, so as to ensure that there is no temperature higher than 27 degrees Celsius, which will provide the best conditions for playing. "

"As the technology itself is environmentally friendly, carbon-free will ensure that the training places and areas of the fans also cool and comfortable. What we uncovered about today is something to be submitted for the first time in the world and as part of Qatar's commitment to providing a historical legacy which you want to move this leading technology to the rest of the world. "
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Old April 29th, 2010, 11:39 PM   #173
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The current Al-Gharrafa And Al-Rayyan Stadiums
Both of them are 25,000 seats at the moment


Al-Gharrafa





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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-z2jtUS9-Y
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Old April 30th, 2010, 02:58 AM   #175
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very nice bid but there one BIG reason why FIFA will NOT give you the tournament.

It's called:

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Old April 30th, 2010, 03:44 AM   #176
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very nice bid but there one BIG reason why FIFA will NOT give you the tournament.

It's called:

Agree. Getting wasted and making "public disorder" is essential part of World Cup culture. Without that it would be just another tournament. Its grown past being just that decades ago. Why go back now?
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Old April 30th, 2010, 05:53 AM   #177
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Think "Expanded World Club Cup". This is what, I believe, is the thinking behind the bid. Build enough stadium as needed for the World Cup. Then scale down where they're not necessary for the community. What ever capacities are left will be used to lure the CWC away from Japan and UAE and make Qatar the true permanent site for the tournament.

Then another factor is that the GCC have financial clout that can be used to raise the necessary funds for the stadia and other projects. While Qatar itself is low in population, it's in the middle of a region that is, really, part of a geographical area that is very populous. Travel from within Asia and even from outside Asia is not that inconvenient.

But the key is, as I stated earlier, any legacy to this bid would include being the permanent site of the CWC. The stadia would give FIFA an excuse to expand to 9 or 12 teams (they might institute a standardized "end of year break" to make space for it by then). In other words, they are trying to do to football what Dubai did to international finance. That is, turn themselves into a destination for world travelers and use yearly big football tournaments as a big draw. The World Cup would be the start of a new tradition in sport. I don't really know this for sure but that is what I believe is their thinking behind this bid. If you can look at this that way, then the World Cup starts to make some more sense. The big however is can they turn those plans into reality. It is very ambitious plan and I don't know if they are capable of doing these projects.

What people might miss with respect to the Qatar bid is that it may be a sign that a lot of voting members don't want to vote for the US bid and are unhappy with the progress of the Australian bid. That would present a huge opportunity for the Qatari to jump in try to persuade a few more voting members to their side, instead.

Finally, you can't help but notice that the stadia they are planning are designed primarily for proper football, not the other football that the States have. I don't know what their proposed finals stadium would look like but, if from going by the five proposals shown so far, the vast majority of venues may be track-free. That certainly would give them a favorable edge over a bid that has stadia that do not have optimal lines of sight with respect to the beautiful game (if anything, the discovery of obstructions at the new Meadowlands stadium has hurt the bid even more). If Australia has not entered a credible plan by the time of voting, look for Qatar to surge in the last days. However, I don't think it will be enough to win.

Btw, FIFA doesn't have to sell beer in the stadium to take sponsor money from beer companies. Remember, people. Global communications and International TV rights!
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Old April 30th, 2010, 11:00 AM   #178
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Qatar's projects are great!
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According to officials, there will be certain areas that will sell beer and alcholic drinks for fans.
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According to officials, there will be certain areas that will sell beer and alcholic drinks for fans.
If so, I'll vote for Qatar.
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