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Old September 16th, 2010, 09:59 AM   #1821
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So then it shouldn't be allowed to have its own stadium if Doha already has two.
Qatar will build 800 new stadium then after world cup they will demolished it
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:00 AM   #1822
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Dude, Face the fact that Qatar (which has 1 MAJOR city) is bidding for the world cup and the bid has made it until this point which includes the inspection, that rule of 1 stadium at 1 city is not taken seriously. the rest of the rules however are.
Clearly not taken seriously by Qatar else they would never have bid. The rule has also been taken seriously by FIFA in every recent past World Cup.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:07 AM   #1823
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There is obvisouly a scam between Qatar and FIFA going on. Why do Qatar get to host the WC in once city?

Aswell, don't ever call Doha a major city, because it really isn't.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:07 AM   #1824
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Clearly not taken seriously by Qatar else they would never have bid. The rule has also been taken seriously by FIFA in every recent past World Cup.
Well the Aus bid I think that FIFA and the host country could bend what is a city though. SA used Soccer City in Soweto, but it was listed as being in Joburg. The Royal Bafokeng Stadium is actually in Phokeng, but listed as Rustenburg. The USA also did that in 94.

Even the Australia bid is trying to pass Blacktown off as seperate to Sydney.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:08 AM   #1825
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Doha will build 10 new stadium then after world cup they will demolished it
No, they won't be demolished but FIFA is still suposed to believe that the scaled back stadia is in the interest and needs of Qatar.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:08 AM   #1826
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Blacktown is about 20-30kms out of Sydney all these stadiums being proposed are in like a 10km radius.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:12 AM   #1827
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Blacktown is about 20-30kms out of Sydney all these stadiums being proposed are in like a 10km radius.
Sure, but FIFA tend to bend just what a city is. They used the metropolitan areas in the USA and South Africa, so why not bend the rule again for Australia or Qatar.

I know that Qatar is highly unlikely, but they could find a way to make it work.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:13 AM   #1828
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Even the Australia bid is trying to pass Blacktown off as seperate to Sydney.
Yeah, but Blacktown is the most likely Australian venue to be ditched. It's Australia trying to sqeeze as many venues out as possible with a primary soccer legacy, if it isn't accepted then no big deal. The SFS and ANZ Stadium in Sydney (15.7km apart "as the bird flies") are further apart than Parc Des Princes and State de France(12km). Blacktown is evern further away (21.3km from Homebush)

Comparing what Australia is doing and what RSA did (Joburg ellis park to Soweto soccer city 8.8km "as the bird flies") to the Qatar bid is a joke. Qatar is planning 12 venues in an area slightly larger than greater Sydney.

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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:18 AM   #1829
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Sure, but FIFA tend to bend just what a city is. They used the metropolitan areas in the USA and South Africa, so why not bend the rule again for Australia or Qatar.

I know that Qatar is highly unlikely, but they could find a way to make it work.
Comparing it to the US doesn't even work here. The US used metropolitan areas just for the name of the place. The Rose Bowl is in Pasadena, but they called it Los Angeles, Stanford Stadium is in Palo Alto, but they called it San Francisco, etc. They didn't try to put another stadium or two in any of those cities though to skirt a clear FIFA rule. It was just a designation of city to make it clearer to the world what major city it was representing. South Africa did the same thing and it was fine because they had only one city with two stadiums, as is allowed by FIFA rules.

Qatar is making up cities when they're really suburbs because they have no choice, not as a point of clarification. The comparison doesn't work.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:23 AM   #1830
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I know that Qatar is highly unlikely, but they could find a way to make it work.
So could London but they know it's not in the spirit of the World Cup
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Old September 16th, 2010, 01:39 PM   #1831
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Comparing it to the US doesn't even work here. The US used metropolitan areas just for the name of the place. The Rose Bowl is in Pasadena, but they called it Los Angeles, Stanford Stadium is in Palo Alto, but they called it San Francisco, etc. They didn't try to put another stadium or two in any of those cities though to skirt a clear FIFA rule. It was just a designation of city to make it clearer to the world what major city it was representing. South Africa did the same thing and it was fine because they had only one city with two stadiums, as is allowed by FIFA rules.

Qatar is making up cities when they're really suburbs because they have no choice, not as a point of clarification. The comparison doesn't work.
of course the comparison doesn't work.

why they choose this position for Lusail city ? because they focused on important area (Lusail) in Qatar history and these following points (Distance to Capital, Market demand, transport network, Qatar Vision 2030).

As a person working in the field of urban planning in Qatar i will explain Doha urban development. Doha is mean in Arabic (Semi-round not fully roundness) and urban planning based on this fact even Doha structure if you considered carefully a little you will notice that Doha is semi-round and based on multi C-Ring Roads surrounded by nearby cities such as Al-Rayyan, Al-Garrafah Al-Wakrah in south and of course the new city Lusail at north.

note: Al-Rayyan & Al-Garrafah almost clashed with Doha and such things is normal in Arab Gulf countries we have many similar examples such as Dubai city clashed with Sharjah city or in Saudi Al-khobar city clashed with Dammam city + Duharan city.

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Old September 16th, 2010, 05:31 PM   #1832
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Well the Aus bid I think that FIFA and the host country could bend what is a city though. SA used Soccer City in Soweto, but it was listed as being in Joburg. The Royal Bafokeng Stadium is actually in Phokeng, but listed as Rustenburg. The USA also did that in 94.

Even the Australia bid is trying to pass Blacktown off as seperate to Sydney.
Sorry mate but you're absolutely wide of the mark.
Australia has submitted 12 stadiums-10 will be chosen.
One of the two to be dumped will be either the SFS or Blacktown.
London has also proposed more than 2(think its 4) but only 2 will get the nod.
I suppose this shows that these cities already have infrastructure and plenty of it.
There is simply no comparison to Doha's World Cup bid.
FIFA has been willing to allow only 1 city with 2 stadiums but they will never re classify/devalue the FIFA Mens World Cup down to a city bid as per smaller events such as the IOC Olympics

They have done an impressive presentation so far and congratulations to them for that ,hoping against hope that the bling will overwhelm exco to forget/change their most basic statute which is the very pillar of their technical guide but at the end of the day rules are rules
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Old September 16th, 2010, 06:01 PM   #1833
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Some news...

Education City stadium


Sports City stadium



University stadium



Umm Slal stadium


Doha Port stadium


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Old September 16th, 2010, 06:51 PM   #1834
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Sport city stadium





Doha Port Stadium




Education city Stadium






Umm Slal Stadium




Qatar University Stadium


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Old September 16th, 2010, 06:54 PM   #1835
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Are they all individual cities or just suburbs?
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Old September 16th, 2010, 06:59 PM   #1836
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I like the sports city proposal, it looks strangely familiar
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Old September 16th, 2010, 07:10 PM   #1837
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Are they all individual cities or just suburbs?
Haven't we been through this already ??

What is considered in other countries of the world suburbs are considered as towns in Qatar, but that status is actually exaggerated into "cities". It is a decent bid though when it comes to transport, stadiums, accommodation etc. Should be a good rival to Australia 22.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 07:12 PM   #1838
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Are they all individual cities or just suburbs?
Bit of a redundant question, don't you think?

The Doha Port stadium is pure class judging from the renders.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 07:21 PM   #1839
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Bit of a redundant question, don't you think?

The Doha Port stadium is pure class judging from the renders.
Yes i know its AMAZING !!

But you know whats highly disappointing about it ??? Its the only stadium that will be 100% fully modular, which means after the world cup, the entire stadium will be removed, to avoid unnecessary white-elephants.
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