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Old September 16th, 2010, 08:14 PM   #1841
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You mean the guy that all French football lovers hate?

Great, way to make the French hate you. xP
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Old September 16th, 2010, 08:30 PM   #1842
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You mean the guy that all French football lovers hate?

Great, way to make the French hate you. xP
We are proud of him , afterall, we all remember his famous head-butt, Germany 2006.

(BTW, I added more images above....)
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Old September 16th, 2010, 08:45 PM   #1843
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FIFA raises doubts over Qatar's World Cup bid

DOHA, Qatar -- The head of the FIFA inspection team says Qatar "faces logistical problems" in attempting to host the 2022 World Cup, raising doubts about its proposal for a tournament where stadiums are located close to one another.

Chile Football Federation president Harold Mayne-Nicholls didn't specify what problems he feared but said a World Cup these days would have to accommodate hundreds of thousands of people. He said Qatar does not currently have the necessary accommodations and transport links to meet those demands.

Qatar bid committee chief executive Hassan al-Thawadi acknowledged the proposal faces challenges but vowed to find solutions to any problems identified by inspectors. Qatar is the smallest nation bidding with only 1.6 million people.

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Ahaa !! He said "Currently" , but it will have the necessary accommodation and transport by the time of the World Cup, Other than that, everything is great
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Old September 16th, 2010, 09:25 PM   #1844
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Qatar 2022...a dream bid. Unfortuantely, that's all it will stay...a dream.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 09:36 PM   #1845
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Qatar urges FIFA to be bold over 'compact cup' challenge for 2022



DOHA, Sep 16: Qatar bid leaders insisted tonight they had not been deflected or distracted from their pursuit of host rights to the 2022 World Cup finals just because FIFA inspectors had spelled out the challenges facing their campaign.

Bid chairman Sheikh Mohammed bin Hamad Khalifa al Thani, in a direct message to FIFA at the conclusion of an inspection team’s three-day assessment, promised: “We will make sure everything works seamlessly . . . to prove to the world that the Middle East, just like Africa [this year], can be successful at hosting the world’s greatest tournament.

He added: “Choosing Qatar is not a risky decision but a bold decision which you will not, absolutely not, regret.”

Earlier FIFA’s inspection leader, Chilean federation president Harold Mayne-Nicholls, had opened his closing remarks by noting that Qatar had “come a long way” since his first visit in 1995.

He welcomed the technological potential evident in air-conditioned stadia, the national development plans and the support of the royal family, government and business sectors.

But, noting the small size of the country and addressing its ‘compact cup’ issue, he added: “Qatar has all the necessary potential but it would pose a number of logistical challenges.

“A World Cup here in the Middle East would be a tournament with the shortest distances possible with stadia within a maximum travelling time of one hour. So far only once have we had a tournament of a similar concept and that was the first World Cup ever staged in 1930 in Uruguay with 13 teams playing all the matches in two stadia in the same city.

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“That worked well 80 years ago but the scope of the event has changed dramatically. Nowadays we have 32 teams and the last edition in South Africa we had more than 80,000 accredited people including 15,000 media and hundreds of thousands of football fans travelling to the host country.”

On the issues of still-to-be-developed accommodation and transportation projects, Mayne-Nicholls appreciated assurances from the bid leaders that “you are prepared to change this and lots of development plans are under way.”

Responding, bid chairman Sheikh Mohammed said Qatar had always understood and been honest and open about the challenges in hosting a first-ever Middle East World Cup.

Turning a potential negative into a positive, he added: “In terms of travel time and distances it sounds like a great deal for teams and for fans who are concerned about budgets.We do understand we have to be organized every step of the way and if we weren’t committed we wouldn’t be here. We will make sure everything works seamlessly.”

His words were echoed by bid ceo Hassan Al-Thawadi, who described the FIFA visit as an “exhilarating three days.” He said: “We were very encouraged by the comments of Mr Mayne-Nicholls because it’s been a real test for us to discuss the technical aspects of the bid.

“We’ve always understood there are challenges but it’s an achievable concept and we have worked very hard on logistical problems that a compact World Cup may present and we have found solutions. FIFA has always been an innovative organisation and we believe this is another frontier for FIFA to cross . . . It is absolutely the right time to bring the World Cup to the Middle East.”
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Old September 16th, 2010, 09:51 PM   #1846
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Were the rest of the stadiums ever revealed or is it still just the five?
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Old September 16th, 2010, 10:12 PM   #1847
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Were the rest of the stadiums ever revealed or is it still just the five?
I cant blame you for not knowing due to this "mess" in this thread.

I will post a "list" soon (maybe as soon as today) with the full 12 stadiums and thier capacities.
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Old September 16th, 2010, 11:45 PM   #1848
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The Final 12 Stadium list... FINALLY !

Al-Shamal Stadium (45,330)




Al-Gharrafa Stadium (44,740)




Al-Khor Stadium (45,330)




Al-Wakrah Stadium (45,120)




Al-Rayyan Stadium (44,740)




Sport city stadium (47,500)




Doha Port Stadium (45,000)




Education city Stadium (45,000)




Umm Slal Stadium (45,000)




Qatar University Stadium (43,500)




Khalifa International Stadium (68,000)




Lusail National Stadium (86,000)


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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:13 AM   #1849
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Russia's bid is facing the problem of small venues that will leave a lot of fans without tickets, but Qatar's is even worse. Only two stadiums over 60,000 and everything else under 50,000? Even if Al-Gharrafa Stadium ends up bigger, it would still result in a lot of upset fans.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:27 AM   #1850
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France 1998 stadium smaller venues than Russia and Qatar and Most South Africa 2010 WC stadium venues aren't full
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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:30 AM   #1851
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Russia's bid is facing the problem of small venues that will leave a lot of fans without tickets, but Qatar's is even worse. Only two stadiums over 60,000 and everything else under 50,000? Even if Al-Gharrafa Stadium ends up bigger, it would still result in a lot of upset fans.
You know we could have simply built 12(or more) new stadiums, with 100k, 90k, 80k stadiums all brand new.. but that would be totally unsustainable and a waste + more white-elephants ! so for a nation the size of Qatar, to have a sustainable post-worldcup stadiums its crucial to have the right stadium capacities in order to have a good legacy and no white-elephants.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 12:48 AM   #1852
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my download of the pic for lusail isn't working (its showing the corner of a brochure)

thanks for the pics though - very nice!!
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Old September 17th, 2010, 01:31 AM   #1853
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Khalifa International Stadium (68,000)



That has elements of at least 3 different stadiums I can think of - Durban, Wembley (the arch)
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Old September 17th, 2010, 01:31 AM   #1854
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Qatar 2022!!! Arab Money!!
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Old September 17th, 2010, 03:28 AM   #1855
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Ahaa !! He said "Currently" , but it will have the necessary accommodation and transport by the time of the World Cup, Other than that, everything is great
But the problem is that they will made a report about what they see "today" and the vote will be based in this report. Qatar have truly amazing projects but have strong oponents in this race. I think the task is very hard for Qatar.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 03:38 AM   #1856
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Very interesting the emoticons getting used in this thread considering nightlife will be non existent-no alcohol and no dancing
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Old September 17th, 2010, 03:54 AM   #1857
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FIFA World Cup bid inspection chairman, Harold Mayne-Nicholls, has tonight cast doubt on whether a country Qatar's size can host the 2022 tournament in comments made at the end of his team’s three-day evaluation of the country's bid.

Mayne-Nicholls said that the Gulf kingdom’s size posed “logistical challenges”.

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Old September 17th, 2010, 05:53 AM   #1858
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Wow, they're amazing stadiums. That is one of the best thing the Qatari's are doing.
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Old September 17th, 2010, 06:22 AM   #1859
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Well done Qatar Son 333 for posting material that was contructive and realistic. Nice to know you were capable of posting articales that weren't just Vision pieces from the bid.

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Wow, they're amazing stadiums. That is one of the best thing the Qatari's are doing
Yes renders go a long way for the public.

Still remember that like with South Africa and Brazil, FIFA can force changes to Stadia where they want. I comes down to the surrounding infrastructure and the dry facts with FIFA, not necessarily the pretty stadium proposals. The US bid will mostly use stadia that are 20 to 30 years old by 2022, it won't be for looks rather the tried and true reality that they can easily move and accommodate the fans. Australia hasn't even designed the Stadiums they will build except for the Adelaide Oval and maybe Skilled Stadium. What you see in Australia's bid is just an artists impression and massing from Populous.

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Old September 17th, 2010, 07:34 AM   #1860
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The Final 12 Stadium list... FINALLY !

Al-Shamal Stadium (45,330)




Al-Gharrafa Stadium (44,740)




Al-Khor Stadium (45,330)




Al-Wakrah Stadium (45,120)




Al-Rayyan Stadium (44,740)




Sport city stadium (47,500)




Doha Port Stadium (45,000)




Education city Stadium (45,000)




Umm Slal Stadium (45,000)




Qatar University Stadium (43,500)




Khalifa International Stadium (68,000)




Lusail National Stadium (86,000)

Outside of the last two stadiums, the capacities are quite frankly an embarrassment. I know Qatar doesn't need any more than one large stadium. And after seeing these capacities, I now know Qatar doesn't need the world cup, especially when their are better bids out there.
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