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Old February 10th, 2009, 10:19 AM   #61
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Khanrak, I would agree on Istanbul if the Turks had bothered to maintain the station in a good condition. As it is they've added some on-the-cheap buildings to one side and not bothered to paint the once-beautiful rose coloured face since... I don't now, perhaps since the days of Mustapha Kemal himself?

The thing that makes St. Pancras so impressive is IMHO not the fact that the Londoners "allow" the building to be there, but the grand use they still make of this victorian building in our 21st century.
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Old February 10th, 2009, 01:48 PM   #62
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Isn't part of the problem that the Newsweek article isn't clear about whether they look at external or internal architecture? I mean, some of the Asian railway stations on that list look beautifully from the outside but, well, they are not very luxurious, or even efficient, on the inside. Railway stations such as Central Union and Antwerp have magnificient internal halls but are not that imposing from afar. In the latter category one could have added Milan which also looks like a proper cathedral... once you're inside.

Without insulting anybody, I wouldn't vote for Tokyo Station - and this is because of the second consideration. I have been there a few times (I don't travel to Japan all that often...) and I always feel claustrophopic. Inside a railway station I expect at least 8-10 metres of air above my head - and I most definitely do not want to "tunnel" my way past shops and eateries in low corridors like some sort of mole.
I agree about the Tokyo station and the strange criteria that were used, but I have to disagree about your above statement. Th outside with it's huge dome (76m) and many towers is actually as impressive as the inside I think (over here they call it 'the railway cathedral'):


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Old February 10th, 2009, 09:45 PM   #63
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Antwerps station looks beautiful, but what is really so special about it? [/url]
Are there any other stations in the world with trains at 3 different levels ?
(not speaking about stations with 2 levels of trains and 1 level of tram or
metro, but well 3 levels of real trains).

This station originally had 10 terminal tracks, all located at the upper level.
Platforms between those tracks where short and narrow, only two of them
allowed reception of 12-car trains, and de-loading of a busy train was slow.

Antwerp being a vey busy city, that was not enough and started to cause
congestion that propagated on the entire national railway. Proposals to scrap
the station and build a new one flourished along the 1980 years, with
numerous protests and reactions against it. Finally, it has been agreed to

- keep and fully renovate the existing building and shed
- rebuild the 10 tracks terminus to 6 tracks only, with much longer and wider
platforms
- build a lower level for 4 through tracks, combined with a tunnel under the
city, to allow trains to go from Brussels to the Netherlands without
reversing
- build an intermediate level with 4 terminal tracks to maintain adequate
capacity

All of that was done while maintaining the station in operation, with a few
hundreds trains serving it every day (at some time with only 3 tracks in
operation, a challenge in itself).

And one can say that architecturally, it is a total success, the combination
between old and new styles being extremely pleasant.
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Old February 10th, 2009, 10:51 PM   #64
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The exterior of the Antwerp Central Station is being renovated as we speak:

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Some historical towers will be rebuild (they were taken away decades ago):

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The interior is already renovated, to give you an idea:

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Old February 10th, 2009, 11:01 PM   #65
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The exterior of the Antwerp Central Station is being renovated as we speak:

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Some historical towers will be rebuild (they were taken away decades ago):

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The interior is already renovated, to give you an idea:

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For people who haven't been there: Antwerp Central Station is enormous and magnificient. Aweful. Breath-taking, overwhelming, fantastic mix of styles,..

So is maybe St Pancras, and almost so are many other stations in Europe.

Let's be happy and proud.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 02:39 AM   #66
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how about kyoto station?
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Old February 11th, 2009, 10:15 AM   #67
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Belgians sure are incredibly proud of Antwerp Central Station, heh. I just don't think the downstairs bit is very good-looking.

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The outside and entrance are maginificent, though.

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Old February 11th, 2009, 10:28 AM   #68
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In real life I think that the lower parts are better than on the pictures (I saw a lot of pictures and went to the station in real life and it suprised me), although the newer parts aren't breathtaking. Especially the underground heights are very convenient.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 08:02 PM   #69
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Belgians sure are incredibly proud of Antwerp Central Station, heh.
That annoys you, heh.


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I just don't think the downstairs bit is very good-looking.
I think you made your point by now.

The finished parts:
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Old February 11th, 2009, 09:12 PM   #70
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I agree about the Tokyo station and the strange criteria that were used, but I have to disagree about your above statement. Th outside with it's huge dome (76m) and many towers is actually as impressive as the inside I think (over here they call it 'the railway cathedral'):
Whoops! Yeah, I'd have to agree with you. I've only been in Antwerp once (well, that's a lie: I've passed through this city on a few occasions en route to the Netherlands...) and I see now that on that occasion I must clearly have left the railway station through a side entrance.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 09:54 PM   #71
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That annoys you, heh.


I think you made your point by now.
It doesn't, really. I lived in Belgium for a long period of time and always enjoyed using Antwerp Central station. I think it deserves to be in this list but the number of raving posts about the station, all by Belgians it seems, just made me want to point out that I personally think the lower levels just aren't greate. The pictures you just posted prove my point. Again, I'm not saying it's not a great station; the upper parts definitely are but the lower parts are very average I find. Whenever I use it it seems grey and gloomy.
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Old February 11th, 2009, 10:46 PM   #72
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And again. You made your point.

I strongly disagree (I use the station daily, and I certainly don't find it grey and gloomy), but so be it.

ps: If you think only Belgians are enthousiastic about this station, you should think again. Even Japanese delegations visit the station to see its construction.
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Old February 12th, 2009, 02:19 PM   #73
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In terms of volume Beijing's stations are some of the biggest in the world

Beijing Station 1953


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Beijing West 1995



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Beijing South 2007

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Old February 12th, 2009, 03:57 PM   #74
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ATOCHA station, one of the train stations of Madrid

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Old February 13th, 2009, 02:45 PM   #75
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antwerb is amazing.
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Old February 13th, 2009, 08:31 PM   #76
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Have you already seen plans or computer-generated images of the
stations that will replace Sirkeci and Haydarpasha in Istanbul ? Or
is it still too far ?
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Old February 14th, 2009, 07:08 PM   #77
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In terms of volume Beijing's stations are some of the biggest in the world
Bigger doesn't mean better. Most of the stations you have shown, IMO, look like glorified shopping malls.
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Old February 15th, 2009, 12:06 AM   #78
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Funny thing, I love the downstairs of the Antwerp Station...

Forget about your local station think about criteria for a good station...

I think one important criteria is connectivity to other major metropolitan areas...
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Old February 15th, 2009, 04:04 AM   #79
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In terms of volume Beijing's stations are some of the biggest in the world
And some of the ugliest

All of them (with the exception of Beijing South) just look tacky and kitsch.

And I don't really like how Beijing South seems to un-integrated with the surrounding areas. It just seems like it's in the middle of a freeway or something, with off-ramps all around it. It just seems like it's more of a transfer station and no one would ever need to use the area surrounding the area because it looks like it would be difficult to reach as a pedestrian. Maybe when it's connected up to more subway lines, then it will be better. But for now it just seems like a station you would use when you're just passing through.

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Old February 15th, 2009, 08:04 AM   #80
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yea i thought the same thing. It looks like an airport terminal with all those overpasses curving around it. Train stations should promote ped travel not extreme cars everywhere.

So, the highway goes through the station? Or are they used for dropping people off like at the airport?
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