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Old December 7th, 2005, 07:32 AM   #301
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LCQ19 : Patronage of franchised buses
Wednesday, December 7, 2005
Government Press Release

Following is a question by the Hon Andrew Cheng and a written reply by the Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works, Dr Sarah Liao, at the Legislative Council meeting today (December 7) :

Question:

Regarding the patronage of franchised buses, will the Government inform this Council:

(a) of the respective current average daily total patronage on the bus routes whose fares are $9.9 or below, between $10 and $14.9, and $15 or above;

(b) of the bus routes on which fare concessions are offered to passengers who take the same route (or route of the same group) for the return trip on the same day and prepay the return trip fare with Octopus cards on the forward trip, the details of such concessions, the current average daily total patronage on such routes and the total number of trips taken by passengers who take advantage of such concessions;

(c) of the bus routes on which concessions on the return trip fare are offered, without the requirement of its prepayment on the forward trip, to passengers who take the same route (or route of the same group) for the return trip on the same day, the details of such concessions, the current average daily total patronage on such routes and the total number of trips taken by passengers who take advantage of such concessions; and

(d) given that some franchised bus companies had offered a one-dollar flat fare concession for the elderly on holidays and terminated this concession on June 1 this year, of the respective average daily total patronage on these routes by elderly passengers on holidays during the three-month periods immediately before and after the termination of the concession?

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Madam President,

In September 2005, the average daily patronage of franchised buses is about 3.95 million. Average daily patronage for the routes charging full fares at $9.9 or below, between $10 and $14.9 and $15 or above is as follows :

Code:
Bus Routes                    Average daily patronage
**********                    ***********************
Full fares at or below $9.9       3,352,000
Full fares between $10 and $14.9  382,000
Full fares at or above $15        218,000
At present, Citybus Limited (Citybus) and New World First Bus Services Limited (NWFB) offer advance payment return fare concession on a total of 20 routes. Passengers who make a prepayment for a return journey with an Octopus Card can enjoy 10% discount or concession of $1 or $2. These routes are mostly long-haul routes plying between the New Territories and urban areas, for instance, solely-operated routes* with full fare at $15 or above. According to information provided by the bus companies, the average daily patronage of these routes is about 88 000 and around 47% of the passengers who take the same route or its supplementary routes for their return trip enjoy the advance payment day return concession.

Since June 26, 2005, Kowloon Motor Bus (1933) Limited (KMB) and Long Win Bus Company Limited (Long Win) introduced a day return discount on solely-operated routes charging fares at $15 or above for passengers who use an Octopus Card to make the payment. Passengers can enjoy a 20% discount on their return trip if they take the same route or its supplementary routes on the same day for the return trip. According to information provided by the bus companies, the average daily patronage of these routes is about 79 000 and around 35% of passengers take the same route or its supplementary routes for their return trip and enjoy the day return concession.

KMB, Long Win, Citybus and NWFB introduced in October 2003 $1 flat fare concession for elderly passengers who paid with their Octopus Card on Sundays and public holidays. Bus companies implemented the above elderly concession scheme until June 1, 2005. For the three months before and after the cancellation of the concession, the average daily patronage of elderly passengers on Sundays and public holidays who paid with an Octopus Card were 456 000 and 309 000 respectively.

* Airport routes, recreation routes and race-course routes are not included.
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KMB Route Diversions for Road Closures during 6th WTO Ministerial Conference
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To tie in with police road closures in Wan Chai North during the WTO Ministerial Conference, KMB will introduce route diversions and bus stop relocations for 10 cross harbour routes between 3:00 p.m. on Monday, 12 December 2005 and 5:00 a.m. on Monday, 19 December 2005. The affected routes comprise 104 (Pak Tin bound), 117(Sham Shui Po bound), 373A, 621(Central bound), 641 (Kai Yip bound), 905, 914X(Causeway Bay bound), 948P (Causeway Bay bound), 960 and 961. The terminating point of Routes 905, 960 and 961 will be relocated to Hennessy Road near Fleming Road, while the terminating point of Route 373A will be relocated to Gloucester Road outside Immigration Tower.
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Old December 17th, 2005, 07:03 AM   #307
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KMB ready to drop prepaid rule for fare discounts
17 December 2005
South China Morning Post

Bus operator KMB said it was willing to drop its requirement that passengers buy return tickets to qualify for fare discounts, citing the public's opposition to the rule.

Companies have agreed to cut fares before a new formula for fare adjustments is implemented. KMB had proposed that passengers pay by Octopus card for a return trip when they make their outward journey in order to get a discount on their round trip. Now it is proposing they receive the discount when they pay for the return trip.

Passengers had complained they would lose money if they could not make the intended return trip - for example if they worked late and missed the last bus on their route.

Secretary for the Environment, Transport and Works Sarah Liao Sau-tung welcomed KMB's move.

KMB chairman John Chan Cho-chak told a Legislative Council transport panel meeting that the company had heard the voice of the people and was willing to give up the prepaid fare proposal.

He said the company needed to study further how much discount it would offer.

It would take KMB three months to adjust its card scanners to deal with the new scheme.

Ahead of the fare adjustment formula's introduction, bus companies had said they would offer 5 per cent discounts for prepaid return trips on medium-haul routes and up to 15 per cent on long-haul routes.

New World First Bus said it would also consider giving the discount when passengers make the return trip, but a 15 per cent discount was too big.
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Do you know which other cities that use double decker buses in regular traffic, except for HK, London and Copenhagen (those are the cities I've seen them in)?
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They used to have them here in Cork up until a few years ago.
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hkskyline,
Do you know which other cities that use double decker buses in regular traffic, except for HK, London and Copenhagen (those are the cities I've seen them in)?
Many British cities still use them. They are also in operation in Dublin, Singapore, Victoria, BC (they have a number of these on the streets), and a fellow forumer posted some photos of Las Vegas double deckers as well (not sure how many routes they run). Chinese cities also have double deckers, but they are a minority rather than the norm.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hkskyline
Many British cities still use them. They are also in operation in Dublin, Singapore, Victoria, BC (they have a number of these on the streets), and a fellow forumer posted some photos of Las Vegas double deckers as well (not sure how many routes they run). have .
If you see a double decker bus in North America, it will be a privately
owned city tour bus (Greyline in Canada). Most big cities have some
of these old red London buses touring around in the summer.
I doubt if any city transport system actually operates any.
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Victoria has some Dennis Trident double deckers running regular services and not the tourist coaches.
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LCQ12: Deployment of low-floor buses
Government Press Release
Wednesday, December 21, 2005

Following is a question by the Hon Howard Young and a written reply by the Secretary for the Environment, Transport and

Works, Dr Sarah Liao, at the Legislative Council meeting today (December 21) :

Question :

Regarding the deployment by franchised bus companies of low-floor buses to provide service, will the Government inform

this Council:

(a) of the current number of low-floor buses in the fleet of each franchised bus company, the routes and districts to which these buses are mainly deployed, their frequencies expressed as a percentage of the total frequencies of the relevant routes,

and the number of low-floor buses planned to be purchased in the coming five years by each company;

(b) whether the franchised bus companies have looked into the passenger demand on different routes for low-floor bus services; if not, of the respective criteria adopted by the companies for deciding on the deployment of low-floor buses to individual routes; and

(c) of the channels through which passengers in need, such as wheelchair users and mobility-handicapped persons, learn whether there are low-floor buses serving a particular bus route and about their schedules?

Reply :

Madam President,

As at October 31, 2005, the numbers of wheelchair accessible low floor buses, the number of routes deployed with these buses operated by the six franchised bus companies and the estimated percentage of trips operated with low floor buses as a proportion to the total number of trips of these routes are attached in the Annex - http://gia.info.gov.hk/general/20051..._0184_9572.doc

Franchised bus companies deploy wheelchair accessible low floor buses on routes across various parts of Hong Kong, Kowloon and the New Territories to serve passengers in need. In 2001, all franchised bus companies except NLB agreed to

choose wheelchair accessible models when making future purchase for new buses. The number of new buses required by different bus companies varies depending on the age of their existing fleet and changes in service demand.

According to the current Route Development Programmes of the bus operators, a total of 885 wheelchair accessible buses will be purchased in the coming five years. Their distribution is as follows:

Code:
Bus Operators           Number of new buses to be 
                        purchased in the coming 
                        five years
*************           **************************
    KMB                              730
Citybus (Franchise 1)                 72
Citybus (Franchise 2)                 11
    NWFB                              20
  Long Win                            22
Due to topographical constraints, wheelchair accessible low floor buses are not suitable for most of the routes operated by NLB. Nevertheless, the company has planned to purchase such buses to operate on suitable routes where terrain permits.

When determining the deployment of low floor buses on different routes, bus operators will take into account the views gathered through various channels. For example, they participate in the Working Group on Access to Public Transport by the

Disabled organized by the Transport Department (TD) and discuss with organizations representing people with disabilities during regular meetings on the arrangements and priorities concerning the deployment of low floor buses for individual routes.

In addition, bus operators gauge opinions through the local community, passenger liaison groups, customer service hotlines and their websites so as to understand the demand of the community and people with disabilities for wheelchair accessible low floor buses.

TD and franchised bus companies provide information to organizations representing people with disabilities, setting out the list of routes operated with low floor buses and the number of these buses in order to facilitate them to plan their journeys. Passengers who require low floor bus service may browse the bus companies' websites or call their hotlines for the latest information.
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Some friends of mine collect those mini die-cast HK double decker bus. Especially the one with the graphics on it or wrap-around advertisements! They would buy their models in Allied Plaza in Prince Edward
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You can get them on eBay as well from many British agents at very low prices.
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