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Old January 16th, 2008, 05:51 PM   #581
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LCQ4: Structural safety of franchised buses
Wednesday, January 16, 2008
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Following is a question by the Hon Albert Cheng and a reply by the Secretary for Transport and Housing, Ms Eva Cheng, at the Legislative Council meeting today (January 16):

Question:

In Hong Kong in recent years, franchised buses were involved in a number of traffic accidents and it is often heard that the vehicle bodies of the double-decked buses involved in the accidents were severely damaged after colliding with other vehicles, and passengers on the upper deck who were thrown out of the buses were injured or died. In this connection, will the Government inform this Council:

(a) apart from stipulating the design and construction requirements of franchised buses in the Road Traffic (Construction and Maintenance of Vehicles) Regulations, whether the Government has prescribed other requirements in respect of the vehicle bodies of buses (such as the materials used, structural safety and impact resistance, etc.); if so, of the details;

(b) whether there is a requirement that for the new buses purchased by the various franchised bus companies in Hong Kong, all the body components assembled in Hong Kong must be produced by the original manufacturers; if there is no such requirement, whether it has assessed if using components not produced by the original manufacturers will weaken the impact resistance of the vehicle bodies of buses; if such an assessment has been made, of the results; and

(c) following the occurrence of a number of the above accidents, whether the Government has reviewed the structural safety standard prescribed for the vehicle bodies of franchised buses; if so, of the results; if not, the reasons for that?

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Madam President,

The Government attaches great importance to the safety of bus passengers. Every bus has to pass a comprehensive inspection and a tilt test required by the Transport Department (TD) before it is put into service. A licence will be issued by TD only when legal requirements are met and structural safety is confirmed.

My reply to the three parts of the question is as follows:

(a) Regulation 5 of the Road Traffic (Construction and Maintenance of Vehicles) Regulations (Cap 374A) stipulates that every vehicle, including a bus, shall be soundly and properly constructed of suitable materials. Manufacturers of the buses currently in use in Hong Kong all come from the European Union (EU) and their designs comply with EU requirements. Every bus is designed by its manufacturer and has undergone tests to ensure structural safety. In terms of structure, the double-decked buses running in Hong Kong are the same as those in other countries such as the United Kingdom, the United States and Singapore.

Currently, there is generally no requirement on impact resistance for buses around the world. There is also generally no specific requirement on the materials used for buses. Therefore, TD has not prescribed other requirements, such as on impact resistance or materials used in respect of the vehicle bodies of buses. When determining whether a bus fulfills the above legal requirements, TD will consider information provided by the bus manufacturer, including overseas experience in using the bus, compliance with requirements of the place of origin, and the track record.

(b) At present, new buses are mostly assembled locally. TD has no requirement on the source of body components of buses, but all parts of the bus bodies assembled in Hong Kong are provided by the original bus body manufacturers and the assembly work is conducted by trained personnel of the contractors. To ensure that the assembly standards meet the design requirements set by the manufacturers, the assembly work is undertaken by professionally trained personnel and the process is supervised by engineers from the bus body manufacturers. Moreover, all the buses assembled have to pass the safety examinations (such as those on the brake system, the lighting system and the steering system) and the tilt test required by TD before the issue of licence.

(c) Every bus operating in Hong Kong is designed by its manufacturer and has passed a comprehensive inspection and a tilt test required by TD. The body structure is safe. Whenever there are serious traffic accidents involving buses, TD will demand detailed reports and improvement plans from the bus companies in question.

In response to recent accidents resulting in severely damaged bus bodies and casualties arising from passengers being thrown out of the bus, TD has started discussions with bus companies to speed up the fitting of safety belts for exposed front seats on the upper deck or the installation of guardrails across the upper deck windscreen of existing buses.

To further enhance bus safety, TD has invited academics from mechanical engineering departments of universities and representatives from institutes of mechanical engineering, together with bus manufacturers and franchised bus companies to meet in early January to have a discussion on the structural safety of buses, such as the strength of seats on upper deck and the installation of guardrails across the upper deck windscreen. TD will continue to keep a close watch on the structural safety and maintenance of buses to ensure the safety of bus passengers.
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Old January 16th, 2008, 07:10 PM   #582
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3巴連環相撞15傷
2008年1月16日



【明報專訊】香港仔黃竹坑道昨晨發生3巴士連環相撞意外。兩部通宵線城巴在香港仔隧道收費廣場站上落客,後方一部欲抽頭駛出時,尾隨一部九巴駛至收掣不及,猛然撞向城巴車尾,釀成3車串燒相撞,造成15人受傷,警方正調查意外肇因。

傷者分別為11男4女,包括14名乘客及九巴司機,年齡介乎18至69歲,全部僅受輕傷,大部分經敷治後無礙,3人要留醫,情穩定。受傷九巴司機黃╳祺(42歲),與兩名城巴司機羅╳雄(47歲)及劉╳明(46歲),事後均通過警方酒精呼氣測試。

3車長暫停駕駛職務

九巴發言人表示,黃姓車長一直任職通宵更司機,數日前開始駕駛N170路線,事後暫停駕駛職務,轉任留廠工作。城巴發言人亦指出,羅姓車長及劉姓車長一直返通宵更,意外後兩人需暫時停止駕駛職務,等待接受公司內部調查。

肇事現場為香港仔黃竹坑道近香港仔隧道。昨日凌晨4時56分,兩部城巴N90及N72沿香港仔隧道往黃竹坑,兩車出了隧道口後,一前一後駛入收費廣場站上落客。N72見N90仍未開行,司機遂準備扭右駛出鄰線,詎料尾隨而至N170通宵九巴疑因天雨路滑收掣不及,猛然撞向N72車尾,N72再衝前撼向N90 車尾,造成3車相撞意外。

因有大批乘客受傷,警方接報後,需召醫療車及多部救護車到場協助,部分傷者坐在車廂內等候救護員檢驗,較為嚴重的則躺臥路邊即場接受包紮,幸全部送院敷治後無礙。九巴損眦最為嚴重,車頭凹陷,擋風玻璃碎裂飛脫,N72城巴則漏出大量燃油,受意外影響,現場交通一度阻塞。
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Old January 17th, 2008, 09:48 AM   #583
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九 巴 模 擬 駕 駛 訓 練 系 統 提 升 車 長 應 變 力
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九 巴 裝 設 巴 士 模 擬 駕 駛 訓 練 系 統 , 模 擬 不 同 路 面 環 境 、 天 氣 及 交 通 狀 況 下 的 突 發 情 況 , 九 巴 表 示 , 模 擬 系 統 有 助 提 升 車 長 的 應 變 能 力 。

九 巴 現 時 共 有 四 台 模 擬 駕 駛 器 , 每 台 設 有 顯 示 屏 , 播 放 三 維 駕 駛 景 觀 。 去 年 底 正 式 在 新 車 長 的 訓 練 課 程 中 使 用 , 九 巴 表 示 , 日 後 會 推 展 至 給 所 有 車 長 使 用 。
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Old January 20th, 2008, 05:55 PM   #584
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Action urged on bus seat belts
20 January 2008
South China Morning Post

Passengers should not be allowed to sit in the front seats on the top deck of double-decker buses that are too old to be fitted with seat belts, a political party said yesterday.

It made the suggestion in response to a survey that found eight out of 10 bus passengers would be happy to buckle up if seat belts were provided on public buses.

Chan Hok-fung, transport affairs spokesman for the Democratic Alliance for the Betterment and Progress of Hong Kong, which carried out the survey, said it was surprising so many respondents said they would definitely or occasionally wear seat belts. He said the government should speed up the installing of seat belts in double-deckers.

Last week, the government said seat belts could not be fitted on buses built before 1997. It expected that between 2012 and 2015, operators would replace these older vehicles with new models equipped with seat belts.

But Mr Chan said: "Traffic accidents will keep happening. The government should not put forward this excuse." He said it should consider temporary measures, such as installing railings or preventing the use of "high-risk" seats, such as those at the front of upper decks.

Other parties and pressure groups have urged similar action following a crash between double-decker buses in Tseung Kwan O last month in which two women were thrown to their deaths from front-row seats on the upper deck of a bus.

Of 1,532 bus passengers the DAB polled, 39.6 per cent said they would definitely wear seat belts on buses, and 40.8 per cent said they would do so occasionally. Only 14.2 per cent said they would not wear them.

The DAB also polled 213 bus drivers, of whom 56.8 per cent said they got insufficient rest time. Thirty per cent admitted they were sometimes guilty of speeding and missing stops to keep to timetables, with 3.8 per cent saying they often did so.

"They are facing huge stresses from tight schedules, complicated road conditions, and a lack of rest time," Mr Chan said.

The law requires bus drivers to have at least nine hours off between shifts. Mr Chan said that may not be enough.

The party will urge bus companies to recruit more drivers and give staff more time off between shifts.
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Old January 24th, 2008, 04:47 AM   #585
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Six months after last pay rise, bus drivers seek another increase
23 January 2008
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Drivers with the three major bus operators demanded pay rises of between 5 and 7.5 per cent yesterday - six months after they received a wage increase in June.

The union behind the request refused to predict whether the proposal might escalate into industrial action if negotiations fell through, but said the demand was reasonable in the face of the vigorous pace of inflation.

The Motor Transport Workers General Union - which represents drivers from Kowloon Motor Bus, New World First Bus and Citybus - said that before proposing the rise, they took into account the companies' recent cost increases: the toll rise at the Western Harbour Tunnel and fuel price rises.

"Last year we demanded a rise of 7.5 per cent; this year we still proposed 7.5 per cent despite a big improvement in the economy," said Chung Kin-wah, the union's KMB deputy director.

The demand applies to 8,000 drivers with KMB and 4,000 with New World and Citybus - both controlled by the New World First Bus company.

New World said it would start negotiations after its financial year ends in March, while KMB said it would begin talks in June.

A KMB spokeswoman said the company's staff had been given a pay rise of 2.5 per cent and a one-off bonus of HK$400 last June.

Drivers of the New World group were given a monthly wage increase of 2.9 per cent - or no less than HK$271 - in June. Employees with good performance records were also given a one-off bonus of HK$1,000.

Speaking on behalf of his colleagues from the other bus companies, Mr Chung insisted that a rise of 7.5 per cent was not too high considering the 2.7 per cent inflation rate in November.

"When you go for lunch, when you shop for pork and bread in the supermarket, tell me, did the price only rise by some 2.7 per cent?"

Food prices, including pork and beef, rose by more than 30 per cent over the past year. The two bus operators have applied for increases in transport fares, still pending approval of the government.

Mr Chung said he hoped lower-paid contract drivers earning below HK$10,000 a month would be given a larger increase.

Two other unions at New World First Bus and Citybus, who claimed to represent 2,000 drivers, said they had not yet discussed whether the proposed rate was appropriate.

The two unions - controlled by the Confederation of Trade Unions - mobilised about 1,000 drivers last year to participate in a work-to-rule protest.
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Bus seat belt law likely a nonstarter
Hong Kong Standard
Tuesday, January 29, 2008

The government may consider legislation requiring bus passengers to belt up.

However, Commissioner for Transport Alan Wong Chi-kong told legislators yesterday the enforcement of such a law would be difficult since most buses are double-deckers, while many popular routes allow standing passengers.

"There will be difficulty in prosecuting passengers in buses [when] compared with public light buses and taxis, since buses have upper and lower decks and the passengers need time to move along," Wong said.

"Unless the police deploys a lot of manpower, prosecution will be difficult."

Wong said the 5,900 franchised buses now in use had met safety requirements and passed Transport Department inspections.

The Transport and Housing Bureau said the addition of seat belts in the front row of the upper deck and the additional horizontal guard rails across the upper deck windscreens of post-1997 buses were intended to make them safer though these additions were not a prerequisite for buses.

The bureau had also recommended buses traveling on expressways be fitted with seat belts.

Wong said all buses will be equipped with black boxes by the end of 2009 with 85 percent installed by the end of this year.

Directly elected lawmakers believe there is a direct link between the working hours of bus drivers and bus safety.

They pressed for bus operators and unions to be present at the next transport panel meeting which will also discuss applications by bus companies for fare increases.

Wong said the number of buses involved in road accidents over the past 10 years had remained stable.
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Fully A/C Franchise Buses on HK Island since Jan 25 2008, after the last non-A/C DM6 (Dennis Condor, JJ4786) dropped service on Jan 24 2008. It was replaced by top-opened A/C DA66 (GY4478). Fare adjusted from HK$3.2 to HK$4.

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First Two Euro IV Standard NWFB Double Deckers will run on Route 112!

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More New Buses to Serve the Public Starting Lunar New Year [Details]


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Fully A/C Franchise Buses on HK Island since Jan 25 2008, after the last non-A/C DM6 (Dennis Condor, JJ4786) dropped service on Jan 24 2008. It was replaced by top-opened A/C DA66 (GY4478). Fare adjusted from HK$3.2 to HK$4.
A way to raise the fare by 25% at once. There is no difference between an open-topped non A/C bus and an open-topped A/C bus. It is still an open-topped bus open to the air if you are sitting at the upper-level as most people would do.

I wonder how does it work to keep the lower-level air-conditioned but open-topped upper-level. Installing a door at the staircase or what?
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^ Every time I see an antique HK bus abroad, I just wish there were a transportation museum in HK.
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Wow, that is so cool, driving a bus on track, where is this?
Notice the Australian flag in one of the pictures?
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Ohh .. it's an Enviro. I like the KMB livery better though.
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Bus firms may be allowed 3.9pc fare rise
17 February 2008
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Bus firms which had sought fare increases of up to 9 per cent may have to settle for 3.9 per cent. That's the figure the Transport Department has told them a new fare adjustment formula will likely allow.

Kowloon Motor Bus had sought to raise fares by 9 per cent, Long Win Bus requested fares go up by 5.9 per cent and the New Lantao Bus Company wanted to charge passengers 7.24 per cent more. The companies last put up fares at least nine years ago.

The fare adjustment mechanism takes into account the public's ability to pay more, the bus companies' performance and the need to ensure them a reasonable rate of return. Increases require the Executive Council's approval.

In a paper submitted to the transport panel of the Legislative Council, the department outlined the factors and figures determining fare increases under the mechanism.

It said changes in wages in the transport sector and the consumer price index over the past two years potentially allowed the bus operators to raise fares by 3.9 per cent, after accounting for productivity gains. The figure is much higher than recent pay increases. Median monthly household incomes rose only 2.3 per cent from the first quarter of 2006 to the third quarter of last year.

The paper said the formula served only as a reference in determining whether fare rises were justified.

It said the department had to consult Legco and the Transport Advisory Committee before submitting a final recommendation to the Executive Council.

KMB is the largest bus operator in the city, and mainly serves Kowloon and the New Territories.

Its patronage has declined from a peak of 3.11 million in 2002 to 2.76 million last year.

The last time it raised fares was in December 1997, when they went up 7 per cent.

New Lantao Bus last increased its fares in April 1998, by 9 per cent, and Long Win - which operates airport routes - has not raised fares since it began operating in mid-1997.

Legislator Wong Kwok-hing said a fare rise of 3.9 per cent was too high for the public to bear.

Fares should rise no more than 2.5 per cent, he said.
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