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Old September 16th, 2009, 12:19 PM   #881
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Riddle of dozy teen - `trapped' on bus
14 September 2009
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A dozy teenager who fell asleep on a bus on his way home from a night out awoke at 3am yesterday to find himself locked inside at the Sha Tin depot.

The 15-year-old, surnamed Chan, called his mother to say he was trapped inside the 85C bus and asked her to send help.

A KMB spokeswoman confirmed the company received a call from the police around 3.27am, but by the time police and bus company staff had arrived, the boy was gone.

She could not say how the teen got out of the bus.

It was also a mystery how he was left inside, because vehicles are checked and cleaned.

A source told The Standard that bus doors are easy to open from the outside.

The spokeswoman said drivers are required to conduct checks of the inside of their buses after reaching the depot. Cleaning staff then board the buses.

The spokeswoman said she was unaware of previous incidents of passengers being trapped inside buses.

The teen managed to make his way to his Sha Tin home, but later felt unwell and was checked into the Prince of Wales hospital.
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 06:44 PM   #883
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Old September 25th, 2009, 11:57 AM   #884
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can someone from HK make here a some kind of catalog of Honk Kong's buses? You know a photo, name and for example number of buses in service. I don't know if it is difficult.
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can someone from HK make here a some kind of catalog of Honk Kong's buses? You know a photo, name and for example number of buses in service. I don't know if it is difficult.
This KMB list is kept up-to-date by people from Canada and the US with some currently in Hong Kong. The CityBus and NWFB lists are pretty up-to-date too.
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Old October 13th, 2009, 06:35 PM   #886
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Local bus firm launches tours
9 October 2009
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Local company New World First Bus is launching open-top bus tours, vowing they will be cheaper but have more stops than those offered by its foreign-based competitor The Big Bus Company.

London-based The Big Bus already runs two routes - in Kowloon and Hong Kong Island - at US$37 per ticket, with four stops per route.

But starting on Sunday, New World's Rickshaw Sightseeing Bus - which, despite its name, is just a double-decker bus - will, for just HK$50 per day ticket, let a passenger hop on and off the bus at any of its 21 stops an unlimited number of times.

It will pass 50 scenic spots, including 16 declared monuments and 10 grade-one historic buildings, on Hong Kong Island. It is the first time a franchised bus company has launched a day-ticket scheme.

New World's deputy head of corporate communications, Elaine Chan Yin-ling, said individual travellers, including from the mainland and Europe, had been on the rise.

And instead of just shopping, "they want a deeper understanding of a place when they travel", she said. "There are no sightseeing bus services in Hong Kong to match the growing demand of this group yet."

The sightseeing bus will run two routes: a "heritage" tour and a "metropolis" tour, both departing from the Star Ferry Pier in Central. The former, named H1, will focus on the Central and Western district, and the latter, H2, will head to Wan Chai and Causeway Bay.

H1 includes on its route Man Mo Temple, the Old Central Police Station and the Dr Sun Yat-sen Museum, before heading to the Hong Kong-Macau Ferry Terminal.

On H2, shopping malls feature, as well as Statue Square, the Blue House Cluster in Wan Chai and Golden Bauhinia Square by the Convention and Exhibition Centre.

A one-day ticket lets a passenger travel on both routes.

However, The Big Bus includes in its ticket free return trips for the Peak Tram and the Star Ferry. It also has recorded commentaries in eight languages, while Rickshaw Sightseeing Bus offers only English and Putonghua in addition to Cantonese.

New World's senior operations support manager, Newton Ng Yee-kwan, said the main advantage of the new service was that passengers could hop off the bus with more flexibility, at established bus stops. And the price of a ticket for Rickshaw Sightseeing Bus was only one-sixth of its competitor's, he noted.
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Old October 21st, 2009, 02:10 PM   #888
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There're 2 new bus routes from the NWFB, H1 and H2!

Rickshaw Sightseeing Bus

They are mainly converted from the VA5X, last series of Volvo Olympian from former China Motor Bus.

Photo Link from discuss.com.hk for the outside of the Rickshaw Buses, posted by 24349564

Photo Link inside VA55, one of the Rickshaw Buses, posted by Daniel0510
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There're 2 new bus routes from the NWFB, H1 and H2!

Rickshaw Sightseeing Bus

They are mainly converted from the VA5X, last series of Volvo Olympian from former China Motor Bus.

Photo Link from discuss.com.hk for the outside of the Rickshaw Buses, posted by 24349564

Photo Link inside VA55, one of the Rickshaw Buses, posted by Daniel0510


The lower deck needs some works, it looks like shit with the sticky poster.
Direct competition with the Big Bus, let see who will shut down first.
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Old October 25th, 2009, 05:44 PM   #890
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Old October 26th, 2009, 06:10 PM   #891
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Just play fair on fare formula, plead bus firms
20 October 2009
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Fluctuations in oil prices should not be included in the fare adjustment mechanism for bus companies, according to a government review.

The review, triggered by the wild swings in oil prices as the global financial crisis bit, found that adding a fuel price change component would lead to drastic fare movements that are not in the interests of passengers.

But bus companies said the refusal is unfair.

According to the Transport and Housing Bureau paper, a review of the fare adjustment mechanism concluded that ``the addition of a fuel price change element to the formula would lead to very drastic upward and downward movements of the formula outcomes.''

The current fare adjustment arrangement was put in place in January 2006.

The system takes into account a basket of factors, including changes in operating costs and revenues, forecasts of future costs and a fare-adjustment formula based on macroeconomic conditions.

In late 2007, all six franchised bus companies applied for fare increases, citing rising fuel and staff costs as well as tunnel tolls. In May last year, five of the six had their applications approved, with Citybus getting a 2 percent fare increase at one end and New Lantao Bus getting 7.24 percent at the other.

The bureau also decided to review the overall effectiveness of the 2006 mechanism. As part of the review, it decided to consider the appropriateness of adding a fuel cost component to the mechanism.

Oil prices started to climb from 2007, peaking last year. The price of Singapore 0.5 percent sulfur gasoil soared from about US$70 (HK$546) per barrel in early 2007 to about US$170 in the middle of last year, a 140 percent rise.

But the oil prices started to drop in the third quarter of last year and remained at relatively moderate levels, the bureau said.

``We do not consider a fuel cost element should be added to the formula,'' it said, because it would allow bus operators to pass their fuel costs fully and directly to bus passengers.

The fare mechanism will be reviewed in three years.

But the bureau promises that the formula outcome will be reviewed quarterly.

A spokeswoman for Citybus and New World First Bus said they are disappointed ``because according to our experience in the 2007 application, the formula did not include the fuel price elements. However, fuel costs are escalating and stood at very high prices for a long duration. And then the mechanism took a very long approval process.''

She said bus companies cannot sustain long-term deficits.
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Old November 12th, 2009, 05:31 PM   #893
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Opinion : The wrong kind of bus for HK
11 November 2009
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Double-decker buses are yet another of the mindless colonial imitations of London (the others include wearing black business clothes suitable for cold and damp climates).

No safety engineer could possibly argue that the buses are as safe in Hong Kong, where there are more sharply curved roads, more steep grades and higher winds than there are in London.

The double-deckers are also a hazard to other drivers since they often block drivers' views of roadside signs and even, for those immediately behind the buses, the signs overhead.

It may be that the double-deckers augment the passenger capacity of the buses and may be more cost-effective than single-deck vehicles. But shouldn't safety come first?

Not long ago, there was a horrific accident with a double-decker bus on the Tuen Mun Highway, with multiple fatalities.

How many more people must lose their lives before the government realises that these vehicles, while appropriate for London, are dangerous in Hong Kong?

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Have bendi-buses ever been trialled in Hong Kong?
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Old November 12th, 2009, 06:00 PM   #895
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Have bendi-buses ever been trialled in Hong Kong?
I have never seen them. I don't think they will work. The streets are not big enough to have very long buses. We prefer a big double decker and go up than across.
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11 November 2009
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Double-decker buses are yet another of the mindless colonial imitations of London (the others include wearing black business clothes suitable for cold and damp climates).

No safety engineer could possibly argue that the buses are as safe in Hong Kong, where there are more sharply curved roads, more steep grades and higher winds than there are in London.

The double-deckers are also a hazard to other drivers since they often block drivers' views of roadside signs and even, for those immediately behind the buses, the signs overhead.

It may be that the double-deckers augment the passenger capacity of the buses and may be more cost-effective than single-deck vehicles. But shouldn't safety come first?

Not long ago, there was a horrific accident with a double-decker bus on the Tuen Mun Highway, with multiple fatalities.

How many more people must lose their lives before the government realises that these vehicles, while appropriate for London, are dangerous in Hong Kong?

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Opinion : The wrong kind of bus for HK
11 November 2009
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Double-decker buses are yet another of the mindless colonial imitations of London (the others include wearing black business clothes suitable for cold and damp climates).

No safety engineer could possibly argue that the buses are as safe in Hong Kong, where there are more sharply curved roads, more steep grades and higher winds than there are in London.

The double-deckers are also a hazard to other drivers since they often block drivers' views of roadside signs and even, for those immediately behind the buses, the signs overhead.

It may be that the double-deckers augment the passenger capacity of the buses and may be more cost-effective than single-deck vehicles. But shouldn't safety come first?

Not long ago, there was a horrific accident with a double-decker bus on the Tuen Mun Highway, with multiple fatalities.

How many more people must lose their lives before the government realises that these vehicles, while appropriate for London, are dangerous in Hong Kong?

Eugene Eoyang, Mid-Levels


1) If you follow the double-decker which blocks your view of anything, then you are following too closely. She doesn't know how to drive safe at first.

2) The Tuen Mun Rd tragedy had nothing to do with the double-decker, a single-decker would have done the same damage. It wasn't the bus driver fault, it was the tractor trailer's.

3) Double-decker is 33% shorter than the articulated bus, which saves 33% of road space for more vehicle, i.e. less congestion. She would fall in love with the double-deck when the articulated single-deckers dominate all road spaces.

4) Double-deckers are safe, it's the people factor that make it dangerous.
If all drivers followed the rules, everybody would be happy and safe.

5) Double-deckers are London invented, but it's popping up around the world.
I couldn't believe I drove along with a commuter/private double-decker on the expressway in Connecticut here. MegaBus and BoltBus are having the double-deckers to run between theirs popular destination. The American's suburb is probably one of the few places in the world you would never imagine a high capacity double-decker, given the fact public transit is seldom used.

Bottom line, the whole opinion is nonsense for the most part, it makes me want to write to SCMP to respond and get published.
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Old November 13th, 2009, 10:15 PM   #898
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LOL. What's the difference between London and HK that makes such a difference in double decker usage? Both cities have narrow roads and a very irregular street layout. Steep grades pose the same danger for single-decker articulated buses of comparable capacity.
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Ex-top cop in bus black box call to cut road deaths
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A former police chief inspector says the installation of black boxes on franchised buses should be made compulsory and their readings monitored to further supervise the behavior of drivers.

David Lorimer, who retired from the force in 2005, said the cost of checking and storing such data was "peanuts" when compared to the loss of life and the medical costs incurred by traffic accidents.

The Transport Department said about 70 percent of franchised buses have black boxes but readings are kept by bus companies for internal reference.

The KMB bus involved in the Tseung Kwan O accident which killed two women and injured 34 other people a week ago was equipped with the device. The company said the black box has been handed to the police.

In the latter stages of his 23 years with the force, Lorimer spent much time developing and promoting road safety initiatives.

He was district operations officer in Wan Chai and later served at the Traffic Branch Headquarters.

"A bus driver is responsible for the safety of more people daily than a plane captain," Lorimer said.

He said just a day before the interview he witnessed a City Bus tailgating an SUV and "obviously going over the speed limit."

"Just imagine what may have happened had the SUV driver stepped on the brake a little too hard and if there was a woman holding a baby in the bus," he said.

Lorimer said education, engineering and enforcement initiatives are needed if the government wants to minimize traffic accidents.

He suggested chicanes be built on roads leading to roundabouts to force vehicles to slow down.

However, another common traffic offense - jaywalking - cannot be eliminated by engineering initiatives alone.

Lorimer lives in Pok Fu Lam and drives past Queen Mary Hospital through Bisney Road every day.

He is disturbed by people who take shortcuts between the hospital and the University of Hong Kong Li Ka Shing Faculty of Medicine instead of using the overhead pedestrian walkway.

He believes many are medical students and the university should issue warnings to anyone caught jaywalking.

"The number one cause of death in traffic accidents is pedestrians walking with their back to traffic," he said.

Meanwhile, a minivan with six people rammed a KMB bus outside Metropolis Mall in Hung Hom while trying to avoid a jaywalker yesterday morning. No-one was seriously hurt.
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