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Old June 7th, 2014, 05:58 PM   #1261
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How many brands and models are there running in Hk?
Too many to count. This enthusiast's website is quite comprehensive with the models - both past and present : http://www.gakei.com/hkbec/index.html
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Old June 8th, 2014, 07:45 AM   #1262
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Old June 8th, 2014, 10:53 AM   #1263
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How many brands and models are there running in Hk?
Dennis and Volvo are the biggest 2, MAN, Scania and Neoplan have a decent amounts as well.

Neoplan Centroliner
MAN 24.310
MAN 24.350
MAN NL262R
Scania K230UB
Scania K270UB
Scania K280UD
Scania K310UD
Scania K94UB
Scania N113
Leyland Olympian
Volvo Olympian
Super Volvo Olympian B10TL
Volvo B9TL
Volvo B7RLE
VDL DB300
Dennis Dragon
Dennis Trident
Dennis Dart
Dennis Enviro 200
Dennis Enviro 400
Dennis Enviro 500
Youngman JNP6105GR

This is just chassis, not including the different bodies and lengths

this doesn't include MTR, Park Island, Discovery Bay, NLB
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Old June 8th, 2014, 01:17 PM   #1264
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I have a random question, or two, to the more orientated in the HK bus operations:
a) do the bus routes have specific schedules, as in specific departure times (especially the routes with higher frequencies)? It'd be logical to me, but having seen numerous times the simple frequency listing, I want to be sure :P
b) do the drivers have specific schedules on them that list their departure times? Once again, I assume this to be logically a 'yes'... and can anyone show a sample of what the driver would have on them? Just as a reference, it doesn't really matter to me what company.
Anybody asking, yes, I am a timetable-oriented enthusiast
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Old June 8th, 2014, 06:29 PM   #1265
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I have a random question, or two, to the more orientated in the HK bus operations:
a) do the bus routes have specific schedules, as in specific departure times (especially the routes with higher frequencies)? It'd be logical to me, but having seen numerous times the simple frequency listing, I want to be sure :P
b) do the drivers have specific schedules on them that list their departure times? Once again, I assume this to be logically a 'yes'... and can anyone show a sample of what the driver would have on them? Just as a reference, it doesn't really matter to me what company.
Anybody asking, yes, I am a timetable-oriented enthusiast
The schedules we see on the route maps are generic and offer a frequency range, such as every 5-8 minutes, 16-20 minutes, etc. However, the terminus station managers have a more exact schedule. For KMB, they display it on a computer screen in their office that passengers can probably see when they pass by. Drivers would check with the station managers. At some larger termini, it is publicized on large screens.
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Old June 8th, 2014, 07:22 PM   #1266
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Dennis and Volvo are the biggest 2, MAN, Scania and Neoplan have a decent amounts as well.

Neoplan Centroliner
MAN 24.310
MAN 24.350
MAN NL262R
Scania K230UB
Scania K270UB
Scania K280UD
Scania K310UD
Scania K94UB
Scania N113
Leyland Olympian
Volvo Olympian
Super Volvo Olympian B10TL
Volvo B9TL
Volvo B7RLE
VDL DB300
Dennis Dragon
Dennis Trident
Dennis Dart
Dennis Enviro 200
Dennis Enviro 400
Dennis Enviro 500
Youngman JNP6105GR

This is just chassis, not including the different bodies and lengths

this doesn't include MTR, Park Island, Discovery Bay, NLB
If doesn't include MTR, than what do these models you've mentioned belong to?
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Old June 9th, 2014, 10:59 AM   #1267
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If doesn't include MTR, than what do these models you've mentioned belong to?
The 3 big operators in Hong Kong, KMB, Citybus and First Bus
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Old June 9th, 2014, 11:32 AM   #1268
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Are they part of MTR?
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Old June 9th, 2014, 06:37 PM   #1269
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Are they part of MTR?
None of those are.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 07:59 AM   #1270
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Old June 10th, 2014, 10:08 AM   #1271
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None of those are.
MTr doesn't run buses, does it?
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Old June 10th, 2014, 11:15 AM   #1272
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MTr doesn't run buses, does it?
They do, a very limited amount, there are the rail line connectors in the New Territories, which serve the smaller villages and connects them to the rail stations. As well as the Airport Express shuttle buses which connect Kowloon and Hong Kong stations to local hotels.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 06:20 PM   #1273
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MTr doesn't run buses, does it?
They do, but they are contracted out to KMB.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 08:48 PM   #1274
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They do, but they are contracted out to KMB.
You will only find MTR buses serving as feeder routes for the MTR East Rail line in the Tai Po district (Tai Po Market station).
There are also plenty of MTR bus routes in the Yuen Long and Tuen Mun districts to connect with the West Rail line.
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Old June 14th, 2014, 06:52 PM   #1275
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Old June 15th, 2014, 08:59 AM   #1276
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And how many buses are there in HK in total? Are there any figure to compare to other cities?

How many lines? How many buses operate every day?
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Old June 15th, 2014, 11:36 AM   #1277
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And how many buses are there in HK in total? Are there any figure to compare to other cities?

How many lines? How many buses operate every day?
Source : http://www.td.gov.hk/en/transport_in...ses/index.html

Citybus Limited is one of the franchised bus operators on Hong Kong Island. It operates 108 bus routes, including 59 Hong Kong Island routes, 29 cross-harbour routes, 1 New Territories route and 19 routes to Tung Chung/Airport. Fares range from $2.5 to $10.6 for Hong Kong Island routes and $3.5 to $48 for Airport and North Lantau routes. As at 31 July 2013, Citybus had 946 licensed buses. In 2012, it carried about 621,000 passengers a day.

The New World First Bus Services Limited (NWFB) operates 49 Hong Kong Island routes, 8 Kowloon and Tseung Kwan O routes and 33 cross-harbour routes. Fares for Hong Kong Island routes range from $3.2 to $9.8 and Kowloon and Tseung Kwan O routes range from $3.4 to $10.0. In 2013, NWFB had 715 licensed buses, which carried 499,000 passengers a day.

The Kowloon Motor Bus Company (1933) Limited (KMB) operates 315 bus routes in Kowloon and the New Territories and 60 routes on cross-harbour services. Fares for urban routes range from $2.9 to $12.2, and for New Territories routes, from $1.8 to $42.

With a licensed fleet of about 3,800 buses (as at 31 December, 2012), mostly double-deckers, KMB is one of the largest road passenger transport operators in southeast Asia. In 2012, the total licensed fleet carried 2.58 million passengers a day.

Long Win Bus Company Limited provides franchised bus services to North Lantau and the Airport. It operates 19 routes with fares ranged from $3.5 to $30.9. As at 31 December 2012, Long Win had 165 licensed buses. In 2012, it carried about 85,400 passengers a day.

The New Lantao Bus Company (1973) Limited (NLB) operates 22 Lantau routes and 1 New Territories route. Fares range from $3.1 to $43.0. As at 31 December 2012, NLB had 108 licensed single-deck buses. In 2012, it carried 60,900 passengers a day. The greatest traffic occurs during summer and on Sundays and public holidays due to recreational demands.
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Considering the fact, that the urban area of HK is rather small, these figures seem enormous. Thank you.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 06:22 PM   #1279
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KMB focused on efficiency and the environment
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I would like to respond to the letter written by Mr Wilkie Wong (“Too many buses are less than half full”, June 16), in which the author questioned the need for 12.8-metre long buses when many buses do not seem full.

The reason why KMB has brought larger buses to Hong Kong is that we would like to reduce the number of buses on the roads, which will ease traffic congestion and help the environment. As each 12.8-metre bus has nearly 10 per cent more capacity, this essentially means a 10 per cent reduction in the number of buses needed for carrying the same number of passengers.

The deployment of such buses is especially useful in areas where road space is limited but passenger demand is growing. Rather than simply adding more buses to meet demand, we can substitute existing buses with 12.8-metre ones. Moreover, longer buses provide more seats – in customer surveys, our passengers have told us that having comfortable seats is a factor in choosing KMB.

Mr Wong also mentioned he had seen long lines of buses that were only half full. Although this is a commonly observed phenomenon, the cause of it is often misunderstood. Firstly, it is true that buses on some routes are half empty and considerably underutilised. These routes are subject to restructuring – KMB has been working with the government on a territory-wide route reorganisation programme since last year.

The objective is to redeploy resources from routes with low patronage to those with high and growing demand. We completed the programme for North District last year and are working on several districts concurrently now. We envisage that this route reorganisation programme will be rolled out to urban areas in due course.

Secondly, some half-full buses have been completely full a few stops back. For example, at 8.30am, a long line of buses may be seen on Gloucester Road near the bus stop at the old Wai Chai police station. Most of these buses are full of passengers they picked up at their “peak loading points”, who are now preparing to disembark. By the time these buses arrive in Central, they are only half full, but this does not necessarily mean that their respective routes are underutilised.

It is the nature of public transport that different routes exist to serve passengers with different origins and destinations. It is also worth mentioning that buses are by far the most efficient mode of road transport, and we greatly appreciate motorists who give way to public buses.

Evan Auyang, KMB deputy managing director
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