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Old October 9th, 2015, 01:27 PM   #1341
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Old October 10th, 2015, 06:27 AM   #1342
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Old October 17th, 2015, 05:13 AM   #1343
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Old October 24th, 2015, 05:35 AM   #1344
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I don't get why HK bus operators don't all get the hybrid buses like the Enviro 500 Hybrid, it's not so hard right?

London did it they bought a lot of Enviro 400 Hybrids.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 01:02 PM   #1345
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I don't get why HK bus operators don't all get the hybrid buses like the Enviro 500 Hybrid, it's not so hard right?

London did it they bought a lot of Enviro 400 Hybrids.
Technical issues. London's buses are not air-conditioned. All of Hong Kong's are. The same buses from London won't work in HK. The technicals need to be far more powerful in hot and humid HK.
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Do hills also have something to do with it?
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Old November 11th, 2015, 06:42 PM   #1347
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Why Hong Kong has an edge in developing an e-bus
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Many people may have been surprised by the recent launch of a locally designed e-bus.

Hong Kong has no carmakers, nor do we make batteries, a core component, for electric vehicles -- so what is our edge?

The city has, in fact, a long history of research and design in electronic products and is actually quite good at that, said Dr. Lawrence Poon, principal consultant of the Hong Kong Productivity Council’s automotive and electronics division.

Making a good e-vehicle has a lot to with the electronic devices that together function like the brain of the vehicle.

The e-bus designed by the HKPC boasts several key features, including a light body, a range of 300-350 kilometers per charge and a remote diagnosis system.

“The hardware of the iPhone isn't always the best, its screen for example, but it wins with the operating system,” Poon said.

“The performance of an e-bus can vary a lot even if we use the same motor and battery.”

It’s the software controlling the battery and motor that determines how smart an e-bus is.

The smarter it is, the more efficiently it uses energy and the longer the mileage it can achieve between charges.

The core operating system of HKPC’s e-bus is composed of a battery management system, a motor control unit and a vehicle system controller that coordinates the two.

Hong Kong is known for its tough traffic conditions.

Roads often have a lot of turns and traffic lights, and slopes are common.

A bus, in particular, has to stop frequently along its route.

Energy losses get worse during the summer, when doors open at each stop and cool air leaks out.

(As much as one-third of the energy a bus consumes goes to power the air-conditioning system.)

To reduce its weight and save energy, HKPC’s e-bus uses T6-grade aluminum alloy for the body of the bus.

With a net body weight of 12.5 tonnes, the 12-meter single-decker is 10-13 percent lighter than comparable models in the market.
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Any improvement in technology that will lead to an increased operational capability and therefore a reduction in emissions from public buses is to be welcomed. This new bus, on paper, has a range of up to 130 km more than the five BYD K9R buses brought into service with NWFB and Citybus this summer. The new bus is scheduled to undergo one month of road testing to determine it's real world performance.


On another note, I am a little surprised to see a "newer-looking" Dennis ALX500 Trident withdrawn from use by KMB, per SCMP's September article, when there are plenty of tired-looking Dennis Trident 3 and Alexander RH bodied Volvo Olympians still in service.

Any idea when these older buses will be w.f.u.?
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On another note, I am a little surprised to see a "newer-looking" Dennis ALX500 Trident withdrawn from use by KMB, per SCMP's September article, when there are plenty of tired-looking Dennis Trident 3 and Alexander RH bodied Volvo Olympians still in service.

Any idea when these older buses will be w.f.u.?
1. Dennis ALX500 Trident and Dennis Trident 3 can be the same bus.....
2. If your are referring to ATR1 that was retired, it was repainted shortly before retirement as it is being preserved.
3. HK law prohibits franchised buses from operating longer than 18 years.
the last AV was registered Sept 7th 1998, ATR1-15 were all registered before that. As well as all the Tridents transferred from Long Win to KMB, which would have been repainted prior to entering service with KMB.
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1. Dennis ALX500 Trident and Dennis Trident 3 can be the same bus.....
2. If your are referring to ATR1 that was retired, it was repainted shortly before retirement as it is being preserved.
3. HK law prohibits franchised buses from operating longer than 18 years.
the last AV was registered Sept 7th 1998, ATR1-15 were all registered before that. As well as all the Tridents transferred from Long Win to KMB, which would have been repainted prior to entering service with KMB.

Thanks very much for the info.

I have subsequently found a website (gakei dot com), which in the bus section has helped me to further understand your comments, and provides a multitude of interesting photographs of various modes of transport, primarily around H.K.
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Citybus condemns a classic to the scrap heap
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Routemaster offloaded so company can qualify for a clean fuel payout

Citybus has put the last of its famous old Routemaster buses up for auction in order to qualify for a HK$730,000 clean fuel grant.

But if you think you can find a home for a design classic with gleaming red paintwork, be warned – one of the conditions for the winning bidder is that the bus must be scrapped. Which means, sadly, it can only be used for spare parts.

The 51-year-old vehicle was one of four the company bought in the 1980s and 90s and in recent years it has mostly been rented out for functions.

The company is also auctioning a 25-year-old Leyland Olympian model. The deadline to submit a tender is October 5.

News of the sale shocked bus lovers. “Shame on Citybus,” one person said on social media.

Another complained: “We are not scrapping the bus, but history. Besides money, Hong Kong has nothing left.”

The Routemaster No1 was built in 1964. The British double-decker is famed for its traditional design – a half-cab, front-mounted engine and open rear platform. It was designed by London Transport and built by the Associated Equipment Company and Park Royal Vehicles.

Citybus scrapped its Routemaster Nos 2 and 3 in 1993 and 1999 respectively, while No4 was destroyed in a fire in Kam Tin early this year.

Hui Hon-kit, vice-chairman of Citybus Limited Employees Union, was saddened by the sale and guessed that expensive maintenance was the reason.

“Components and parts of such an old bus are hard to find now. Routemaster No1 has to be sent to the UK for repairs. It is costly,” Hui said.

However, Hui said the Routemaster No1 was valuable and he urged Citybus to think again. “The bus should stay. Why don’t they make Routemaster No1 a show piece? It could be a good exhibit along the promenade.”
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