America's 10 Most Miserable Cities - Page 3

luci203 · February 13th, 2009, 11:06 AM

That's not a volcano... more like a 200-400ft hill.

bobbycuzin · February 13th, 2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Xusein

Who's that? Niice.

dania ramirez from the tv show "heroes" AKA the hottest girl on television

davsot · February 13th, 2009, 05:11 PM

I don't get it. What makes Stockton such a bad city? Unemployment rates, that's it? I mean the city looks really nice and I'm sure sooner or later someone will figure out how to reverse that downward trend.

jmancuso · February 14th, 2009, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbycuzin

so anyone who is tan and 25 years old looks like a reptile?

i beg to differ!

she's dominican...thus naturally a little darker. very nice though.

ssiguy2 · February 14th, 2009, 08:42 AM

I'm surprised Gary In didn't make it.

Cornelious · February 14th, 2009, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukinhaaaz

Surprised when I heard about Chicago and Miami! The news has already come up in forums Brazilians. But one thing is half that sad, since there are far worse places in the world and say that one of the largest financial centers of the world (Chicago) and one of the most famous cities on the planet (Miami) are among the most miserable.

But even that makes sense, since most of the population lives in suburbs and Chicago and Miami has many tourists.

I guess it depends on which Chicago you are talking about. The south and west sides make up the majority of Chicago and those parts are pretty ghetto. Downtown and parts of the north side are ok. And, yes, the weather sucks from December to March. Plus, the women aren't all that attractive overall and they have terrible personalities.

ThatDarnSacramentan · February 14th, 2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by davsot

I don't get it. What makes Stockton such a bad city? Unemployment rates, that's it? I mean the city looks really nice and I'm sure sooner or later someone will figure out how to reverse that downward trend.

There's also gang violence, and just violence in general. I've seen nicer neighborhoods in East LA than there are in all of Stockton.

davsot · February 14th, 2009, 10:00 PM

Wow, that's too bad really...

Bobdreamz · February 15th, 2009, 12:30 AM

what a lame list! Chicago? Miami? miserable cities? Hmm...maybe both cities are mentioned because of the Al Capone connection!

LuckyJ23 · February 15th, 2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatDarnSacramentan

There's also gang violence, and just violence in general. I've seen nicer neighborhoods in East LA than there are in all of Stockton.

You can't say that when apparently you've never been to ALL of Stockton.

Yuri S Andrade · February 15th, 2009, 09:38 PM

I just understand what's the point of this kind of lists.

In the USA, just a tiny portion of the metropolitan population actually live in the central city, so that kind of ranking could be misleading.

Why not to rank cities taking account the whole metropolitan area?

hudkina · February 15th, 2009, 10:15 PM

I think they did...

Yuri S Andrade · February 15th, 2009, 10:55 PM

Of course there are plenty of metro areas rankings.

What I meant was, for some reason, the rankings with cities are more common. That's why everybody believes Detroit is the most dangerous city of the world besides other misconceptions.

Plz, excuse the English...

Manitopiaaa · March 18th, 2009, 12:17 AM

Chicago doesn't seen miserable at all. Chicago Spire, New Museums, Olympics 2016 (maybe). I would expect it to be one of the happiest!

urbanjim · March 18th, 2009, 05:51 AM

I agree totally. People love Chicago. When I think of miserable, I think of places like Gary, Indiana. East St Louis. Camden. Youngtown.
And I mean, how could Las Vegas, of all places, be called miserable? It's the most-visited city in the USA! And one of the fastest-growing! If the city is so miserable, why would anyone even bother to go there? Or live there?
Stupid list, just plain stupid.

LtBk · March 18th, 2009, 07:03 AM

I haven't been to Chicago, but based on the info I read from SSC, I think shitty infrastructure and traffic are the things that make Chicago "miserable".

urbanjim · March 18th, 2009, 09:39 PM

^ Just because I have to walk across a busy city street with cracked pavement is hardly enough to conclude that the entire city is "miserable"! Because usually, densely-populated places do have lots of traffic. And most cities (particularly the older ones) have sub-par infrastructures. Based on those two criteria, just about all American cities are "miserable" places!

IMO, some better indicators of urban misery would be things such as unemployment stats, air and water quality, extreme weather, access to recreation and green spaces, homeless population, crime stats, availability of medical care, and availability of public transportation.

hudkina · March 18th, 2009, 10:05 PM

Lack of public transportation isn't a very good indicator of a "miserable" populace, especially considering most cities have a tiny fraction of their population who actually use it.

The easiest thing they can do is actually ask the people if they're miserable. What makes one person miserable might not make another person miserable. A desperate housewife living in the wealthiest city with the best schools and parks might be more miserable than an inner-city single-mother raising her kids in a broken neighborhood. It all depends on each person's outlook as well as their own standards and experiences.

bayviews · March 19th, 2009, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbycuzin

so anyone who is tan and 25 years old looks like a reptile?

i beg to differ!

Ah, Dominicans, almost a million & counting in & around NYC. Another good reason why the Big Apple, despite all the Wall Street horror stories, isn't on that misreable cities list!

Greco Roman · March 19th, 2009, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Jennifat

What decade are you living in? Tanned skin is damaged skin, and in my opinion highly unattractive. That poor girl is going to look like a reptile by her 25th birthday.

Enjoy!

I just puked a little when I saw this picture. Truly disgusting.

Don't know much about American cities besides Minneapolis. I'll be visiting Phoenix next month so we'll see how that goes.

February 15th, 2009, 12:30 AM	#49
Bobdreamz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Miami/Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,850 Likes (Received): 5	what a lame list! Chicago? Miami? miserable cities? Hmm...maybe both cities are mentioned because of the Al Capone connection! __________________ Metro Miami...1000+ highrises completed & under construction.

February 15th, 2009, 09:38 PM	#51
Yuri S Andrade Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: São Paulo & Londrina Posts: 9,266	What about MSA and CSA? I just understand what's the point of this kind of lists. In the USA, just a tiny portion of the metropolitan population actually live in the central city, so that kind of ranking could be misleading. Why not to rank cities taking account the whole metropolitan area?

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February 13th, 2009, 11:06 AM	#41
luci203 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 3,624 Likes (Received): 124	That's not a volcano... more like a 200-400ft hill.

February 13th, 2009, 05:11 PM	#43
davsot Perro que ladra no muerde Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,263 Likes (Received): 2	I don't get it. What makes Stockton such a bad city? Unemployment rates, that's it? I mean the city looks really nice and I'm sure sooner or later someone will figure out how to reverse that downward trend.

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ssiguy2 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: White Rock BC Posts: 4,984 Likes (Received): 43	I'm surprised Gary In didn't make it.

February 14th, 2009, 10:00 PM	#48
davsot Perro que ladra no muerde Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 7,263 Likes (Received): 2	Wow, that's too bad really...

February 15th, 2009, 10:15 PM	#52
hudkina Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 4,583 Likes (Received): 16	I think they did...

February 15th, 2009, 10:55 PM	#53
Yuri S Andrade Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: São Paulo & Londrina Posts: 9,266	Of course there are plenty of metro areas rankings. What I meant was, for some reason, the rankings with cities are more common. That's why everybody believes Detroit is the most dangerous city of the world besides other misconceptions. Plz, excuse the English...

March 18th, 2009, 12:17 AM	#54
Manitopiaaa Illuminati Leader Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Madrid, Spain - Panama City, Panama - Tulsa, OK, United States of America Posts: 1,804 Likes (Received): 454	Chicago doesn't seen miserable at all. Chicago Spire, New Museums, Olympics 2016 (maybe). I would expect it to be one of the happiest!

March 18th, 2009, 05:51 AM	#55
urbanjim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St Louis, MO/IL Posts: 435 Likes (Received): 0	I agree totally. People love Chicago. When I think of miserable, I think of places like Gary, Indiana. East St Louis. Camden. Youngtown. And I mean, how could Las Vegas, of all places, be called miserable? It's the most-visited city in the USA! And one of the fastest-growing! If the city is so miserable, why would anyone even bother to go there? Or live there? Stupid list, just plain stupid.

March 18th, 2009, 07:03 AM	#56
LtBk Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lutherville-Timonium Posts: 2,298 Likes (Received): 104	I haven't been to Chicago, but based on the info I read from SSC, I think shitty infrastructure and traffic are the things that make Chicago "miserable".

March 18th, 2009, 09:39 PM	#57
urbanjim Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: St Louis, MO/IL Posts: 435 Likes (Received): 0	^ Just because I have to walk across a busy city street with cracked pavement is hardly enough to conclude that the entire city is "miserable"! Because usually, densely-populated places do have lots of traffic. And most cities (particularly the older ones) have sub-par infrastructures. Based on those two criteria, just about all American cities are "miserable" places! IMO, some better indicators of urban misery would be things such as unemployment stats, air and water quality, extreme weather, access to recreation and green spaces, homeless population, crime stats, availability of medical care, and availability of public transportation.

March 18th, 2009, 10:05 PM	#58
hudkina Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 4,583 Likes (Received): 16	Lack of public transportation isn't a very good indicator of a "miserable" populace, especially considering most cities have a tiny fraction of their population who actually use it. The easiest thing they can do is actually ask the people if they're miserable. What makes one person miserable might not make another person miserable. A desperate housewife living in the wealthiest city with the best schools and parks might be more miserable than an inner-city single-mother raising her kids in a broken neighborhood. It all depends on each person's outlook as well as their own standards and experiences.