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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:36 PM   #261
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Already decommissioned? Why?
Well, the Lushan was more of a prototype than serial production train. It went into service in 1999 between Jiujiang and Nanchang, but only after 7 years it starts to have multiple problems and taken out of service, remember also in 2006 China started to buy the first generation CRH trains. The single deck version of Lushan, the NYJ1 is more successful, the pictured prototype's passenger carriages are still in use today. And various railway companies have purchased a total of 12 trainsets to operate in different parts of China.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 12:42 AM   #262
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Old January 16th, 2012, 08:24 AM   #263
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You know very well that it's a misplaced clip from the Australian HSR promotion video.
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Old January 16th, 2012, 08:45 PM   #264
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Really? I thought it altogether had to with inflation, too much --uhhh-- thin air
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Old January 17th, 2012, 02:40 AM   #265
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Haven't you spotted all those metros and light rail cars in that video?
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Old January 17th, 2012, 10:10 PM   #266
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Indeed I did ... all that cross-dressing promoted by the advocates makes me (really) muse over their intent ... I find it silly, their risking their (HSR) docket by covering too broad a scope; actually, it makes me right suspicious, for I altogether perceive it another form of dumbing-down such that I wonder who their sponsors must be You see, that filmed double-decker was one of their first muddling instances (if not the first one itself), such that I paused the video, posted it in that other thread, and reverted to watching it afterwards.
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Old January 19th, 2012, 07:17 AM   #267
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China's first double decker train is also the first DMU developed after the formation of the PRC. The Dongfeng Double Deck Motor Coach was developed in 1958 in 55 days. The motor car were put out of service in 1961 but the double deck cars were in use until 1982, it's also evolved into the SYZ22 (Type 22 car double deck version) cars.

Specs:
Trainset 2M4T
Operating speed 120km/h
Capacity 198 × 4
Length Motor car:19,925 mm, Double deck:23,600mm
Width 3,104mm
Height 4,650mm
Gauge 1,435mm
Transmission Hydrodynamic
Engine DV12A diesel
Traction 1200HP






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Old January 19th, 2012, 07:51 AM   #268
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Type 25

In 1985, under pressure to provide rapid intercity service for the fast growing coastal regions, MOR initiated the Short and Medium Distance Double Deck Air Conditioned Passenger Car project.
The RFP for R&D contract for the "25.5m Air Conditioned Double Deck Passenger Car" was issued in Sept 1985, and Nanjing Puzhen Rolling Stock Works (Now CSR Puzhen Rolling Stock Co., Ltd) won the contract.
They visited VIA in Canada and learned a lot about their double decker train manufacturing and operation experience.
Design completed in 1987 and the double deck version of Type 25 passenger car was put into service between Nanjing and Shanghai in 1989. The cars included hard and soft seat versions.




Type 25B

Only a limited number of Type 25 cars were produced and it was quickly replaced by the more mature Type 25B double deck version in 1991.
Note in MOR designations the Type indicates the car family, such as Type 22 and 25, each Type also include single and double deck versions, which are independently developed.
The latest member of Type 25 family, the 25T, doesn't have double deck version.
25B double deck has many improvements over the original Type 25, including better material, passenger comfort and speed.
It also has more versions including hard seat, soft seat, hard sleeper, soft sleeper, and dining car variants.

Type 25B double deck specs
Capacity: Hard seat 170-186, Soft seat 108-110, Hard sleeper 76-80, Soft sleeper 50, Dining 72
Speed: Design 140km/h, Operating speed 120km/h
Length: 25.5m
Height: 4.75m
Width: 3.105m
Weight: Hard seat 52.2t, Soft seat 51.9t, Hard sleeper 53.6t, Soft sleeper 56t, Dining 54t
Bogie: 209PK
Power: Generation car using AC380V
Brake: Disk, Type 104
HVAC: Air condition and electric heat
Manufacturer: CSR Puzhen Rolling Stock














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Old January 19th, 2012, 10:22 AM   #269
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Type 25Z

To serve the newly opened Guangzhou-Shenzhen sub high speed rail, the MOR decided to purchase 160km/h class passenger cars, that is the 25Z family.
The 25Z was put into service in 1994, production ran from 1993 to 1996.
Like its single deck cousin the double deck version of 25Z came with two Blocks.
Both Blocks share car structure with the 25B cars but implemented various measures to reduce weight, also a new bogie was used.
Block 1 has soft seat, soft seat and luggage combo, and dining car variants, it set a speed record of 183km/h.
Block 2 introduced sliding plug door as an option, it comes with first and second class soft seat variant, and set a speed record of 212.6km/h in 1996.

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Dimensions are the same as 25B

Capacity: First class 108, Second class 120-124, First class/luggage combo 66, Dining 60
Speed: Design 160km/h, Operating 160km/h (Reduced to 140km/h in 2008)
Bogie: 209HS
Power: Generation car three phase AC 380v/220v



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Type 25K

The 25K is an incremental improvement of the 25Z, a number of new technologies are introduced to make the car safer and more efficient.
The life span of the car has increased to 30 years, and the interior design was overhauled.
At later stage of the production the 209HS bogie was replaced with SW-160 to ensure operation at 160km/h.
25K double deck variants include hard seat, soft seat, hard sleeper, soft sleeper, and dining car.
Besides CSR Puzhen, CNR Changchun also made 25k double deckers which features doors between the bogies instead of at the car's ends.
Production of the 25K (both single and double deck) ran from 1997 to 2003 with over 4000 units produced.
Its replacement 25T only has single deck version, effectively ended China's double deck passenger car production.

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Hard seat


Lower deck, soft seat


Upper deck, soft seat


CNR Changchun made 25K soft seat
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Should I label the following, latest fleet of our double-deckers at 329KPH?

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That was not cool of those Australian advocates to be leaning on our impotent train-operating authority
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Old January 19th, 2012, 07:21 PM   #272
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Cool posts, hmmwv.
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Old January 20th, 2012, 04:10 PM   #273
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 12:43 AM   #275
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 12:55 AM   #276
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 06:11 AM   #277
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Cool posts, hmmwv.
Agree. Nice angles on those pics, where you can see details like bogies and aircon equipment, unfortunately all to rare with most picture postings.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 07:52 PM   #278
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Hey guys, this is a double decker in B.A.(ARGENTINA) plus it works with third rail

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Old January 22nd, 2012, 10:02 PM   #279
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How come single- and double-deckers are alternated in that BA unit (I can't remember what other network features alternating in their units ... some Japanese one?)?
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Good question Trainrover, these are japanese based toshibas(bought in the late 50s) modified by local industrial enterprise. The reason why they still have single floored ones is that these carry the motorized bogies, original toshibas, plus locally made double deckers, the first batch(5) they all keep toshiba bogies and chassis
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