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Old October 9th, 2012, 01:12 AM   #341
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I'm just surprised that they haven't been replaced yet, surely something from Stadler or PESA would be just fine? (Admittedly it wouldn't be one of their off-the-shelf products)
There's a company called CSRE that tried to get UK train operators interested in Chinese DMUs, pitching them as an affordable replacement for Pacers. They had concept illustrations of DMUs and EMUs designed to fit the UK loading gauge on their website, but now they've set their sights lower and are offering Chinese-made components and spare parts instead.
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Old October 11th, 2012, 02:38 AM   #342
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Apparently the emergence of a rolling programme of electrification has pretty much killed off interest in buying new DMU's for the time being - it's even been suggested that recent changes in regulations would require a new design anyway, an unlikely prospect with no sizeable orders on the horizon.

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Old October 12th, 2012, 05:24 PM   #343
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More the other way around in my opinion - the ROSCOs, being banks, didn't understand why they should purchase the more expensive and less efficient products and hold them on their books for a long period when it was so obvious to everyone that electrification was the answer. Basically they collectively refused to purchase many more DMUs.
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Old December 1st, 2012, 04:06 AM   #344
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EMFER Doble decker EMUs




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Old December 26th, 2012, 09:03 AM   #345
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China, without doubt has some of the coolest trains in the world
China buys technology from Europe, anyway.
To make something futuristic looking, not a big deal.
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Old December 29th, 2012, 09:58 PM   #346
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New Waratah trains on the Cityrail network in Sydney.

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CityRail's new Waratah Train or A Set - A5 & A3 by Squeakaz, on Flickr

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Cityrail's New Waratah Train or A set - A1 Richmond by Squeakaz, on Flickr

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Old January 9th, 2013, 02:53 AM   #347
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The dwell times aren't either. There are very few commuter trains with more than four doors on each car (two at each end).
Actually this has been solved in Paris on RER A (paris Regional Commuter Rail) which is Europe's busiest commuter line (trains are literally queuing on the central section of the line inside Paris during rush hour)

The line is being converted into a fully double deck train line and single deckers are being retired. Mi2N and Mi09 trainsets (both manufactured by Alstom) are now making most of the line's fleet. Their top speed in service is 140 km/h and a 10-car set can carry about 2600+ passengers.


In 1997, the RATP (paris transit agency) and SNCF introduced the Mi2N (ratp name)/ Z 22500 (SNCF designation) which are 5 car sets EMU's that generally run in pairs.

They have 3 wide doors per sides and 4 staircases (only 2 on the SNCF version) leading to either a side door or the middle doors



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNLHQYacaFU

And the newest EMU's are the Mi09 bought by the RATP to phase out the last single deck EMU's on RER A line.

These trains are an evolution of the Mi2N trainsets with a new interior, better air cond, ugly paint scheme and very ugly train front.



They always remind me of the Stormtroopers in Star Wars



And a video to show you the trainset in action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFGEyw2TKDA

A video showing the exterior and interior of the train:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhQu7Sz7aCs

And a train queuing behind another one during rush hour:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Hx3M_zSFaw

The train leaving the station, is a Ms61 and are the oldest trains on the line. They were refurbished a few years ago and have the largest capacity for the single deck trainsets. They run either in sets of 9 cars (rush hour and weekdays off hours) or 6 cars (weekends and weekdays off hours).

The train queuing in the tunnel is a Mi84, similar to the Mi79 on line B, and have the least capacity, being only composed of 4 cars or 8 cars.

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Old January 13th, 2013, 09:27 AM   #349
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What is the center rail in the above picture with the new RATP trains for?

It's the picture with the "stormtroopers" remark.
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Old January 13th, 2013, 01:11 PM   #350
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>SUPERB ACCELERATION OF BEAUTIFUL DOUBLE DECKER

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Old January 15th, 2013, 10:36 PM   #351
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>SUPERB ACCELERATION OF BEAUTIFUL DOUBLE DECKER

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I had exactly the same thought

Anyone knows what's the maximum lenght of indian trains? That one looks fairly large
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Old January 16th, 2013, 07:58 AM   #352
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>SUPERB ACCELERATION OF BEAUTIFUL DOUBLE DECKER
A nice train, but far from "superb" acceleration. With only one engine in front of such a heave train you don't expect good acceleration anyway.

Now this one accelerates...

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Old January 19th, 2013, 12:50 AM   #353
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What is the center rail in the above picture with the new RATP trains for?

It's the picture with the "stormtroopers" remark.
The center rail's function is to transmit to the double decker trains, the images of the cameras installed on the platform so that the driver can directly watch on the screens inside his cabin.

On single deck trains, the drivers still have to watch on the screens installed outside on the platform, or worse watch a large mirror that reflects the platform.

These cameras help the drivers while closing the doors of train, they can immediately know when to stop the doors from closing and also what is preventing the doors from normally closing.

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fascinating

I'm surprised they haven't shifted to using wireless networking technology for sending digital video.
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Old January 20th, 2013, 06:21 AM   #355
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I had exactly the same thought

Anyone knows what's the maximum lenght of indian trains? That one looks fairly large
Express trains are close to 550m in length. The double deckers have less number of coaches compared with long distance trains
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Old January 20th, 2013, 08:33 PM   #356
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Old February 19th, 2013, 10:21 AM   #357
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Delhi - Jaipur AC double decker



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Old February 21st, 2013, 04:01 PM   #358
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11 Double Deckers, all AC, that must be approaching one of the highest capacities for any regular service AC train surely?
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11 Double Deckers, all AC, that must be approaching one of the highest capacities for any regular service AC train surely?
That's actually about the size of regular IC trains in Switzerland



To which often some 1 deck coaches are added at peak times.

however I've seen much longer trains in this same thread!
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Old February 21st, 2013, 05:11 PM   #360
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That's actually about the size of regular IC trains in Switzerland
There is actually a SBB service that is run with 16 coaches and 2 engines. It's however a late night train (leaves Zürich for Bern at 00:02) so I asume only part of the train will be open to the public, and SBB only runs this long train to get some cars at the right place for the next morning...

Consists of 16 doubledecker cars should however become more common in the future, once the "Twindexx Swiss Express" trains start running.
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