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Old June 22nd, 2013, 09:05 PM   #401
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 09:19 PM   #402
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Hardly a commuter system then xD
How is it not a commuter system? Go Transit is the commuter service for the Greater Golden Horseshoe.
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 09:41 PM   #403
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Special train with fotball fans heading for the Romanian Supercup final.

Interior of these carriages (they're awful):
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 09:48 PM   #404
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What a surprise! The horrible AnsaldoBreda seats!

Those carriages seems to be GDR-made ("Görlitz") with refurbished interiors.
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Old June 22nd, 2013, 09:49 PM   #405
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The same seats in Italy, everyone hates them

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Old June 22nd, 2013, 09:52 PM   #406
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Indeed those are Goerlitz carriages refubrished by Electroputere Pascani (ex Remarul Pascani) in Romania.


This is how they looked before.
These are individual carriages.
There is also a similar train composed of 4 carriages which can't be separated.
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 12:10 AM   #407
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What a surprise! The horrible AnsaldoBreda seats!

Those carriages seems to be GDR-made ("Görlitz") with refurbished interiors.
What's so terrible about those seats? Are they really uncomfortable?
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 12:31 AM   #408
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Yes, they are. Too hard and not ergonomic at all.

Anyway the seats installed in Romania were lightly redesigned, and fortunately the headrests are now concave, and not convex as the italian ones are.

In Italy, after a few years of use, they look this way, because the material is too light... Good luck, Romania!





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The same seats in Italy, everyone hates them
Yes. This is my main reasong of hate on modern European railways: after seats got more and more comfy for decades, now they are going back. This is one of the worse examples, but also Desiro, Talent and Flirt trains have horrid seating.
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That's true, but none of them is so unconfortable like those ones...
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 12:58 AM   #411
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What a surprise! The horrible AnsaldoBreda seats!
Wow, doesn't seem there's much they CAN get right over at AnsaldoBreda, isn't there?
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Old June 23rd, 2013, 03:07 PM   #413
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Those kind of doubledecker trains were built by Ansaldobreda and work quite well.
Anyway the interiors are unconfortable, especially the seats...
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The same seats in Italy, everyone hates them
Indeed, I can imagine. However, they can use those (new) interiors as a set for some 1970's vibe sci-fi movie, and the (old) ones for a post-apocalyptic zombie flick
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Yes. This is my main reasong of hate on modern European railways: after seats got more and more comfy for decades, now they are going back. This is one of the worse examples, but also Desiro, Talent and Flirt trains have horrid seating.
Don't blame the manufacturers. Blame the railways. When a railway orders trains it specifies the seats. There are Flirts out there with excellent interiors.
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Don't blame anyone but the designers...
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Double-decker trains in Versailles Chantier station, the main train station of Versailles in the southwestern suburbs of Paris.

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Don't blame anyone but the designers...
The designers will design what they are told to design. I know of modern regional trains with excellent interiors...
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