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Old February 22nd, 2009, 02:28 AM   #61
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that new Desiro ML looks like a single deck train from the side but the front looks like it belongs to a double deck train
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 03:19 AM   #62
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That's because it is a single-deck train I agree though, it looks a bit different. Can't say I like it, but can't say I hate it either. I guess I'll first have to see it for real before I can make a decision on it.

They just went slightly off-topic due to the confusion about the ordering numbers. Nothing more, nothing less.

Now I want to see some more double-deck trains, chop chop people!

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Old February 22nd, 2009, 05:31 AM   #63
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there's also the double deck RER trains in Paris



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Old February 22nd, 2009, 09:12 AM   #64
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This Samurai like Belgian Desiro is not ugly, but why "Asian" like face design? And single Deckers are off topic here. Sorry.
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True. About the Desiro ML: 305 of these are ordered.

The Desiro exists in Double-Deck.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 09:23 AM   #65
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This is a double-deck project by Talgo (in development), the non traditional Spanish train manufacturer.
I don't know if any have been produced yet...
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 10:18 AM   #66
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It was designed by the Finnish part of Talgo "Talgo Oy". But Talgo sold that part in 2007 but kept this design for itself. It uses the trademark 1 axle bogies from Talgo and the double deck knowledge from Finland.

It was entered in the tender for new trains for the suburban network of Helsinki. But they lost it to the single deck Flirt EMU's from Stadler Rail. I think it was also entered in at least one of the 2 recent tenders for new double stock EMUs for the S-Bahn Zurich, but they also lost to Siemens and Stadler there.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 03:43 PM   #67
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Taglo double decker

This is Talgo 22. It was offered for Helsinki and Zurich. Very futuristic concept with passage between the coaches on two levels.


concept car without traction


cross section


inter car connection (see Eisenbahnkurer)

For the Swiss project it was offered in a concortium with Talgo (body, running gear), Elin, Austria (Traction). Prose Switzerland would have made the traction bogies.

more information here (in German)
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 06:27 PM   #68
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I like the spirit of R&D of Talgo. Not everything is super, but they do things differently than others...

Business and production is something else, often politics take part and return in the country that buys is a key to market... And in other countries, bribes, but it is another point...
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Old February 24th, 2009, 11:09 AM   #69
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why has no one put pictures of Amtrak??
looks like i have to ride the rails and get some pics here
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Old March 9th, 2009, 01:13 AM   #70
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It is really weird that UK does not have double-decker trains while most continental European countries have
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Old March 9th, 2009, 01:48 AM   #71
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We already spoke about UK double-decks (read previously in this forum), problem of maximum dimensions on network...
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Old March 9th, 2009, 04:44 PM   #72
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This is Talgo 22. It was offered for Helsinki and Zurich. Very futuristic concept with passage between the coaches on two levels.




inter car connection (see Eisenbahnkurer)

For the Swiss project it was offered in a concortium with Talgo (body, running gear), Elin, Austria (Traction). Prose Switzerland would have made the traction bogies.

more information here (in German)
I love it, but surely they won't be selling many of these? They look to be too tall for most EU nations...
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I love it, but surely they won't be selling many of these? They look to be too tall for most EU nations...
There are two versions one for Finland and eastern Europe and one UIC G2 for Germany, Austria etc.
A third version for UIC G1 for France etc. is in development.
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Old March 10th, 2009, 07:32 PM   #74
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AMTRAK!


Surfliner train between San Diego and LA /Patrick Todd from Wikipedia


Capitol Corridor Train in California /Todd Evans from Wikipedia


Superliner- used on long distance routes /bribri from Wikipedia


Superliner diner car /Matthew Neleigh from Wikipedia


Inside of lounge car on a Superliner /same as above
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Old March 11th, 2009, 05:36 PM   #75
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I googled Surfliner, apparently you folk run that massive beast like a streetcar.

Europe is pathetic

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Old March 12th, 2009, 02:42 PM   #76
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It's America...

It's actually kind of comical how oversized almost all of Amtrak's trains and especially their locomotives are. Especially considering how poor the rail infrastructure in America is.
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Old March 14th, 2009, 06:29 AM   #78
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Guess the country that this is. If you already know it, don't talk.

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AMTRAK!


Surfliner train between San Diego and LA /Patrick Todd from Wikipedia


Capitol Corridor Train in California /Todd Evans from Wikipedia


Superliner- used on long distance routes /bribri from Wikipedia


Superliner diner car /Matthew Neleigh from Wikipedia


Inside of lounge car on a Superliner /same as above
More:
A Superliner train at station.

The regular coach seating

A dining car.

The "family room", one of the different types of rooms available. See Amtrak's Website


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I googled Surfliner, apparently you folk run that massive beast like a streetcar.

Europe is pathetic
Bah, that's nothing. Look up the GE Genesis. It makes up the bulk of Amtrak's fleet.


Or our freight trains.

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Old March 14th, 2009, 04:22 PM   #80
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[QUOTE=UD2;33586756]Guess the country that this is. If you already know it, don't talk.

mexico?
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