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Old May 4th, 2011, 02:16 PM   #361
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TXL close 2. Jun 2012 - BER open 3. Jun
The area of Tegel becomes a science-parc and the old Terminal will house a University
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Old May 4th, 2011, 04:08 PM   #362
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Air Berlin: New four times weekly service to New York

On May 1st Air Berlin started operating non-stop flights from Berlin Tegel (TXL) to New York with an Airbus A330-200.

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Old May 5th, 2011, 03:11 AM   #363
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I love Air Berlin...can't think of another successful airline named after a city. Good to see it growing. I think they serve 4 cities non-stop in the US including non-stop Berlin to NY and Miami... Hopefully more soon!
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Old May 5th, 2011, 09:59 AM   #364
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Actually they serve 5 cities nonstop: JFK, RSW, MIA, LAX, SFO
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Old May 7th, 2011, 02:43 PM   #365
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Actually they serve 5 cities nonstop: JFK, RSW, MIA, LAX, SFO
yes, but not all 5 from Berlin.... but from DUS instead.

There WILL most definitely be more long-haul flights to/from Berlin. The new airport creates capacity badly needed in central Europe. And with the One World alliance welcoming Air Berlin into its group, you can bet your house (or car?) on it that some of those airlines will make use of this new 'hub foundation' in BER.

By the way, 30m in 5-10 years??? .... try 2014 - so within the next 4 years!!! (at least that's my prediction)
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Old May 7th, 2011, 07:56 PM   #366
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The new airport will not really create lots of capacity in its first step of construction! I think the airport is built too small, they should have built the satellite from the beginning!!!
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Old May 8th, 2011, 09:38 AM   #367
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The new airport will not really create lots of capacity in its first step of construction! I think the airport is built too small, they should have built the satellite from the beginning!!!
i agree with you, perhaps its changes again
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Old May 8th, 2011, 03:34 PM   #368
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The new airport will not really create lots of capacity in its first step of construction! I think the airport is built too small, they should have built the satellite from the beginning!!!
I agree that they should have built it bigger from the start, however, just like TXL currently and many other airports, BER will be able to handle 'above capacity crowds'. So 30m even with its 'proposed starting capacity' of 27m shouldn't be a problem. And I'm sure they will start building on the 1st satellite soon (prob within next 2 yrs).

Point is, that BER won't have to turn down airlines' requests to fly to/from Berlin! To build the satellite doesn't require any further local, state or federal approvals, so in that sense BER has an edge over other airports as it can VERY QUICKLY and without much trouble add capacity. .... I didn't explain that too well in my post earlier - sorry.
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Old May 8th, 2011, 03:38 PM   #369
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That's true, the satellit is already approved. But in munich the satellit is also already approved, but Berlin will have the same problems like munich has. in peek hours there won't be lot of slots available so they will also have to turn down some flights from airlines!!!
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Old May 11th, 2011, 11:21 AM   #371
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@Matze20111984: That is not going to be a real problem for the next two decades. For one, Munich currently handles much more traffic than Berlin will be for the forseeable future, additionally, Munich traffic contains much more traffic with regional planes à la ATR and CRJ. The biggest player so the Berlin market, Air Berlin, Easyjet and Germanwings all use mainly planes in A319/320 size, with Air Berlin serving a few destinations with Dash 8.
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yes, but not all 5 from Berlin.... but from DUS instead.

There WILL most definitely be more long-haul flights to/from Berlin. The new airport creates capacity badly needed in central Europe. And with the One World alliance welcoming Air Berlin into its group, you can bet your house (or car?) on it that some of those airlines will make use of this new 'hub foundation' in BER.

By the way, 30m in 5-10 years??? .... try 2014 - so within the next 4 years!!! (at least that's my prediction)
nothing is certain in the aviation world. lufthansa just announed they won't have a hub in berlin. air berlin itself is not really able to create many more direct long distance links, and BER will be lucky if one world partners establish a handful new connections. also BER won't be very attractive for LCCs, which will also have an effect on the future growth potential.

I'm certain, BER will see 30 m pax rather soon, but after that ...
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Old May 11th, 2011, 01:45 PM   #373
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The southern runway is completed


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There is also a video showing a helicopter flight along the new runway
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Old May 28th, 2011, 02:54 PM   #374
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Here's a link to a 30-Minute documentary on the BER building site progress, which recently ran on German TV (ARD) - apologies, but it only exists in German.

http://www.ardmediathek.de/ard/servl...mentId=7234564
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Old May 31st, 2011, 05:09 AM   #375
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If flights between midnight and 5 a.m. remain banned, then I hope the Bradenburg Airport gets a few hotels built.
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Old May 31st, 2011, 02:17 PM   #376
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^ A Steigenberger-Hotel will built in the Airport-Park - 5 min to walk to the Terminal
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Old June 4th, 2011, 10:30 PM   #377
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It's a 4-Star hotel which is under construction already, due to be opened when business at BER begins next year. As berlin_apron already said, it is located only a stone's throw away from the terminal in the surroundings of the Airport Plaza.


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Old June 5th, 2011, 02:35 PM   #378
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Will there be more hotels besides the Steigenberger? Cheaper ones, for instance?
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Old June 8th, 2011, 12:02 AM   #379
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The cheap ones (Motelone, Etap, etc) will probably pop up like mushrooms in a little distance from the airport.
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Will there be more hotels besides the Steigenberger? Cheaper ones, for instance?
There are already opened a Holiday Inn Berlin International Airport Hotel and an Intercity Hotel Berlin Airport close by the airport, as well as a Meininger Hotel under construction at the business park.

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