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Old June 28th, 2009, 06:07 PM   #21
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After the new Bradenburg Airport opens, what should be done to Schonefeld's old terminals and other buildings?
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Old July 1st, 2009, 03:46 PM   #22
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Not sure what will happen to it, but the German government will build a new terminal to be used solely for government / protocol services near the old terminal... I read that this one alone (including surrounding infrastructure) will cost EUR 125 million or so.

In other news: Berlin Airports today announced that it has finally secured EUR 2.5 bn in debt finance (loans) from 8 different banks to fund the build / expansion of Berlin's new airport. Furthermore, it will increase the capital expenditure by yet another EUR 300 million in order to increase the capacity of the new airport from around 25 million to about 27 million passengers per year initially (i.e. in 2011 when the airport opens). To this end, they will extend the South pier of the new terminal (note: this pier has aero-bridges, whereas the North pier doesn't). In addition, they will change plans of the new main terminal to include an additional level to facilitate hub traffic.

So good news all around.
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Old July 1st, 2009, 04:00 PM   #23
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Do you think the old Schonefeld Terminal will be used by low cost airlines, maybe just easyJet and Ryanair while other airlines will use the new terminal?
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 02:54 PM   #24
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No, the new terminal will have 10 walk-boarding gates for the likes of Ryanair and EasyJet. Noone knows what will happen to the old (i.e. current) terminal.

more info can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin-...tional_Airport
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Old July 2nd, 2009, 10:44 PM   #25
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EIB supports Berlin-Brandenburg Airport (BBI) with EUR 1 billion loan

The European Investment Bank (EIB) is granting a EUR 1 billion loan for the construction of Berlin-Brandenburg International Airport. A further EUR 1.4 billion is being provided by KfW IPEX-Bank, Investitionsbank Berlin IBB, Investitionsbank des Landes Brandenburg ILB, Landesbank Berlin, Nord LB, DZ Bank and Berliner Volksbank.

This is the biggest infrastructure financing operation in Europe.

In the words of EIB Vice-President Matthias Kollatz-Ahnen: “The new Berlin-Brandenburg International Airport (BBI) is a key German unity project financed by the EIB. As the airport of Germany’s capital and the greater Berlin-Brandenburg region, and as part of the trans-European networks, the EIB has accorded BBI particular priority.

BBI will provide the necessary capacity to meet the expected growth in air traffic over the next few years. At the same time, it will concentrate air traffic in a single location outside the city, bringing environmental benefits and improving the safety of the people of Berlin and Brandenburg.

We anticipate that BBI will impact positively on the economic development of other parts of eastern Germany, which as convergence regions within the EU receive particular attention from the EIB. These regions will benefit from improved accessibility by air and direct and indirect job creation.

The EIB’s appraisal established the project’s economic viability on the basis of cautious traffic growth assumptions and taking into account the planned introduction of trading in the CO2 emissions of civil aircraft (an environmental control measure that makes air traffic more expensive). The EIB’s financing of other European airports is also subject to these strict criteria.

The EIB has been supporting this major project since December 2007 with a credit line whose size and maturity (EUR 1 billion, up to 25 years) is tailored to the large scale and long useful life of the airport."

Source: The European Investment Bank
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Old July 4th, 2009, 11:37 AM   #26
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good stuff!
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Old July 5th, 2009, 12:13 AM   #27
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Berlin Airports hands over first preliminary construction section of underground BBI railway system to German Rail (Deutsche Bahn)

After just over 1,000 days of construction work, Berlin Airports is soon to achieve yet another milestone on the way to completing BBI: on 24 July, the company is set to officially hand over the first preliminary construction section of the underground rail link to Deutsche Bahn. The Supervisory Board and management of Berlin Airports and representatives of Deutsche Bahn today saw for themselves the progress being made on the BBI rail link.

Dr. André Zeug, CEO of Deutsche Bahn Station&Service AG: “Right after taking over the preliminary construction, we will start developing the railway station, i.e. building the three platforms, laying the tracks and installing the railway technology. The terminal railway station will go into operation on 30 October 2011, ensuring a convenient train-to-plane time of just a few minutes.”

An area the size of 2,000 football pitches, over 40 cranes, hundreds of construction vehicles, thousands of construction workers – the BBI construction site is currently the biggest and most exciting construction site in the capital region and the biggest airport construction site in Europe. In keeping with the motto, “we build, you watch”, Berlin Airports invites all those interested to visit the construction site.

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Facts and figures on the underground BBI rail link

Berlin Airports is building the BBI railway system on the airport grounds on behalf of Deutsche Bahn. A contract was drawn up between the company, the government, the states of Berlin and Brandenburg and Deutsche Bahn to this effect and signed at the ground-breaking ceremony for BBI on 5 September 2006. Berlin Airports has completed 1.3 kilometres of the 3.2 kilometres of railway station/tunnel. This will be officially handed over to Deutsche Bahn on 24 July 2009. Once the preliminary construction has been handed over, Deutsche Bahn will be responsible for work on the interior and railway technology.

Around 150,000 cubic metres of concrete and almost 16,000 tons of concrete steel were used to construct the 1.3-kilometre-long section. This is equivalent to around 25,000 fully loaded concrete mixers and 700 flat-bed trucks full of concrete steel. The first preliminary construction section of the underground BBI railway station has a base area of 53,000 square metres and on completion, will lie eight metres deep in the groundwater. The railway station must then be able to withstand a lift of 420,000 tons. In order to keep the excavation pit dry during construction, 20 million cubic meters of water have already been pumped out.




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Old July 9th, 2009, 02:29 PM   #29
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I sent a request to the Marketing team of Berlin Airports to publish more renders of the new terminal to see what it's going to look like.... they responded that they will look into it!.... so cross fingers!
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Old August 31st, 2009, 12:38 PM   #30
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Old August 31st, 2009, 07:02 PM   #31
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Ein anderer erstaunlicher Flughafen für Deutschland. Es schaut nach fertigem fantastisch.
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Old December 23rd, 2009, 07:05 PM   #32
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How is the construction of Berlin's new airport coming along? Is it still on track to open in 2011?

Wasn't it called Berlin Brandenburg International? Will that be it's final name?
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Old December 24th, 2009, 12:58 PM   #33
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The airport will be named "Flughafen Berlin Brandenburg - Willy Brandt"
after the former Mayor of Berlin and German Chancellor Willy Brandt.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 04:19 PM   #34
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This one is going to be main Berlin's airport or will compete against Tegel?
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Old December 26th, 2009, 08:35 PM   #35
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This one is going to be main Berlin's airport or will compete against Tegel?
I think it should replace Tegel which will be closed if I'm not mistaken.
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Old December 26th, 2009, 10:35 PM   #36
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can't wait till it opens! (",)
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Old December 27th, 2009, 03:56 PM   #37
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Just 2 runways? Why didn't they plan something to compete with Schiphol or Charles de Gaulle airports, making Berlin a world hub also?
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Old December 27th, 2009, 07:12 PM   #38
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Just 2 runways? Why didn't they plan something to compete with Schiphol or Charles de Gaulle airports, making Berlin a world hub also?
My opinion is that Germany's got already two major hubs (Munich and Frankfurt) the same cannot be said about France where they have CDG but no other french airport is a true hub.
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Old December 27th, 2009, 07:15 PM   #39
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Just 2 runways? Why didn't they plan something to compete with Schiphol or Charles de Gaulle airports, making Berlin a world hub also?
London Heathrow, Europe's busiest hub airport has two runways.
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@Glasgowman: sure, but those HWR 2 runways are congested, and the smallest of weather trobule wreak havoc in Heathrow operations. I would say that you have far more "space" to recover if you have a 400.000 operations/year in a 4 runway airport than in a 2 runway airport. But London still has Gatwick, Stansted and Luton, while Berlin closed Texel and now is going to close its other airport, too.
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