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Old January 9th, 2012, 09:08 PM   #541
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@Fabri88: SQ's upgauging SIN-FRA-JFK to A388, so it's very unlikely they will take use of these fifth freedom rights in the foreseeable future.

And concerning Germany - UAE traffic, I think you don't have any information about the bilateral. The current Germany-UAE bilateral is not far from Open Skies: the carriers are granted fifth freedom rights (many Open Skies agreements don't include this), and the carriers may fly from as many starting points in their own country as they want with as much capacity and frequency as they want. The only restriction is the number of destinations in the other country, being limited to 3 (EK was already granted HAM as a fourth German destination by an exception rule, and it's likely that EY is granted the same if they apply to). If the UAE want more, they should offer more in return (but besides DXB, AUH and SHJ, I don't see any more potential UAE destinations that could be interesting for German carriers).
In fact, AB tying up with EY will very likely hurt Berlin, as this will mean that AB will have to route nearly all of its asian traffic via AUH.
While there was a slim chance that we might see AB open up new routes to major Asian cities, or - with AB's integration into OneWorld - some Asian carriers like JQ/3K/AK, JL or even CX starting flights to Berlin, this scenario has become rather unlikely now.
The tie up additionaly means some kind of sidesteping the bilateral, as you might see AB flying from any major German city (except FRA, MUC, DUS and maybe HAM where Etihad flies to on its own) to AUH feeding EY's hub, so the restriction to 3/4 destinations isn't a problem any more for Etihad - but another argument for not extending the bilateral, which would only help EK but massively German carriers (there's no level playing field in the competition with UAE carriers).
Thanks for the answer.

Talking 'bout SQ is easier than you say. It all depends if the 5th will be conceeded or not. And now that we haven't a political government I have high hopes to get it.

Bilateral Italy - UAE is:

Emirates:
• 14xW to Milan Malpensa (MXP)
• 14xW to Venice Marco Polo (VCE)
• 7xW to Rome Fiumicino (FCO)
• 7xW to whatever airport in Italy (MXP, VCE and FCO included)

Etihad:
• 7xW to Milan Malpensa (MXP)
• 7xW to Rome Fiumicino (FCO)

So I think it is similar to Germany - UAE ('cept for Etihad which in Germany operates to FRA, MUC and now also to DUS).

To be on-topic: what will be the first Lufthansa's long-range routes from BER?
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Old January 10th, 2012, 09:50 AM   #542
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To be on-topic: what will be the first Lufthansa's long-range routes from BER?
The LH-Code is on the United flights to EWR, that is all at the moment.
For 2012 there are no own long-range flights operated by Lufthansa itself planned. Corresponding to the press conference in which Lufthansa announced the new short and medium haul flights from BER, starting with the new infrastructure's opening, Cartsen Spohr (CEO of Lufthansa Passage) said, he personally could image first long houl operations from BER in 2013, probably to Northamerica, if the new routes starting in summer would be fruitful.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 05:09 PM   #543
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This is more of a Lufthansa / British Midland question but it involves a BER-LHR flight near the end of July this year that i am booked on.

If the sale of BMI to AIG goes through, does LH give up ALL of BMI's landing slots at LHR? Are the LHR landing slots on the 3 daily BMI flights from BER to LHR owned by BMI or LH? I am a little worried that if the slots are "owned" by BMI than the BER-LHR flights might disappear. I purposely took this routing to avoid connecting in FRA or MUC. If anyone has any info, i'd appreciate it.
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Old January 11th, 2012, 01:07 PM   #544
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As far as I know will Lufthansa keep 3/daily connections between LHR and BER serve the connection with their own metal. This is what has been announced in the context of the introduction of new LH-routes with the opening of the new infrastructure in Schönefeld.
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Old January 14th, 2012, 09:46 AM   #545
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I like it :-)
Not sure I love it. Just average to me and too many straight edges. Reminds me of this renovation of a crappy old station in Warsaw
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Old January 14th, 2012, 02:59 PM   #546
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When I look at BER new airport, I don't have the same feeling then with the picture of the one of Poland.
Same style, I agree but the Germans just got it right.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 09:06 AM   #547
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When I look at BER new airport, I don't have the same feeling then with the picture of the one of Poland.
Same style, I agree but the Germans just got it right.
I think u missed the point. The Poland pic is a renovation of a train station designed in the 60's. It's not supposed to look fabulous. I don't think the Berlin design is better in any way just because it's German.
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Old January 15th, 2012, 10:48 AM   #548
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When I look at BER new airport, I don't have the same feeling then with the picture of the one of Poland.
Same style, I agree but the Germans just got it right.
But why do you think the Germans got it right? Not only because it’s German right?

Between, I really like that new airport
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Old January 17th, 2012, 12:46 AM   #549
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But why do you think the Germans got it right? Not only because it’s German right?

Between, I really like that new airport
The new airport its like pure light arcitecture....minimalism at the best I just love it !!! Go Berlin
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Old January 17th, 2012, 01:10 AM   #550
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Will Germanwings being flying into this airport ?
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Old January 17th, 2012, 09:19 AM   #551
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Yes. BER will be one of Germanwing's bases.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 01:51 PM   #552
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and lufthansa aswell
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Old January 17th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #553
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Yes. BER will be one of Germanwing's bases.
Air Berlin too, I presume (as it will be Berlin's sole airport), right?
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Old January 17th, 2012, 08:57 PM   #554
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No offense but it reminds me of a department store. It's new and shiny but it won't stand the test of time.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 01:37 AM   #555
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^ To stand or not to stand the test of time requires... time. Especially considering the buildin isn't even finished yet. And yes, we recognized that you don't like the building. One message would have been enough to bring that point across.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 03:23 AM   #556
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I think it's one of best designs for an airport yet. Really love the strong lines and edges. You can 'read' quality here.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 10:46 AM   #557
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I think the design fits very well to Berlin and Germany.
Clear, straight, sober and simple.
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Old January 20th, 2012, 11:49 PM   #558
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I think it's one of best designs for an airport yet. Really love the strong lines and edges. You can 'read' quality here.
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My thoughts exactly.

It just looks efficient, modern, clean, and well thought out.
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 07:43 AM   #560
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