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Old April 12th, 2013, 12:56 PM   #821
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Flew in and out of Tegel this week. Jeez, Brandenburg Airport is badly needed.
Talk about one cramped airport. And the communist architecture just maes it worse.

Airport staff were using uniforms that said Brandenburg Airport, kind of weird.
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Old April 12th, 2013, 01:02 PM   #822
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The architecture of Tegel isn't communistic (it's in the Western part of the city). The main terminal building by gmp is a great 70ies design (and made Gerkan, Marg und Partner famous world-wide).
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Old April 13th, 2013, 09:24 AM   #823
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More bad press for the airport, this time from Associated Press. Berlin airport fiasco an embarrassment for Germans

Not that there really is anything in it the press hasn't written before. It isn't unusual for an airport to get bad press before opening, but this one may have gotten more than most.

27 million is really not a lot. In a couple years airports like Vienna, Copenhagen, or Oslo will have more. But earlier I have seen the number 45 million around. Is this the number when the airport is at full capacity, or has there been a scale back?

There is an older decision that puzzled me. Originally Schönefeld airport had two runways, but then one was removed for a motorway to pass, and then another runway has been built to be back to two. Wouldn't it have been cheaper to let the motorway pass in a tunnel? I assume there will be space for a third runway south of the existing two, for further expansion.

I think that Berlin will have significant future growth, and most of that growth may come from Asia. Having an airport at capacity by the opening date doesn't sound like a cheap or cheerful solution to me. I also assume that Tegel won't be shut down until the new airport comes to capacity.
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Old April 13th, 2013, 11:33 AM   #824
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The architecture of Tegel isn't communistic (it's in the Western part of the city). The main terminal building by gmp is a great 70ies design (and made Gerkan, Marg und Partner famous world-wide).
That's right, wrong on my part.
It still felt communist. Perhaps because modernist architecture is a marxist phenomenon.
Oh well.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 08:09 PM   #825
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Old April 20th, 2013, 01:38 AM   #826
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Wasn't the airport supposed to open in may?
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Old April 20th, 2013, 05:24 PM   #827
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Oh, it might open in may. May 2023, if we're lucky.

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Perhaps because modernist architecture is a marxist phenomenon.
You're kidding, aren't you?
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Old April 20th, 2013, 06:52 PM   #828
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and why such a delay? It's ready, right? I mean, the airport is already done...
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and why such a delay? It's ready, right? I mean, the airport is already done...
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Old April 20th, 2013, 09:35 PM   #830
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Old April 20th, 2013, 11:35 PM   #831
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When are you returning moneyz to Bavaria for this fail?
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Old April 21st, 2013, 01:09 PM   #833
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Take it easy guys!!

No set new opening date yet, but most likely in 2015!

Key issue is fire safety system + literally thousands of other major, medium and minor issues (including baggage reclaim area).

Patience is a virtue!
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Old April 21st, 2013, 11:20 PM   #834
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can someone explain all this mess to someone who didn't really follow the whole thing ? How the hell they came to a situation like that ? Was there no control over architects, engineers and builders ?
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Old April 22nd, 2013, 11:40 AM   #835
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and why such a delay? It's ready, right? I mean, the airport is already done...
To put it in a nutshell: Yes, it's completed. But it's not capable of fulfilling its purpose due to major ****-ups.

That's how an approach to BER looks like at the moment:


How it came to such a situation? It's Berlin. That's how.

Seriously:
No-one knows really, who cocked up what. It's basically a showcase of public mismanagement.
The biggest issue at the moment is the non-working fire-safety system and a few other issues with the building automation. According to the media the list of problems has up to 40.000 records, 8000 of them potentially compromising operations. There are a few: http://www.bz-berlin.de/service/flug...43-image4.html
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 12:48 AM   #836
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Thank you, than (:
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Old April 23rd, 2013, 06:43 PM   #837
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Let's keep the forum free from any memes or meme-like photos, however relevant they may seem to be to the discussion.
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Old April 25th, 2013, 12:47 AM   #838
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Haha i hope the Berlin airport is more successful than the Iraq War
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Old April 25th, 2013, 04:45 AM   #839
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This whole fiasco with Berlin Brandenburg reminds me of the Denver airport which although was completed did not open to the public until three years later due to problems with the baggage system.
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