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Old October 6th, 2014, 06:44 PM   #981
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Ok, so I won't even ask for a potential opening date as we all know that is anyone's guess.

I just simply ask is any work/progress going on currently at the airport? Or is it just sitting there???
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Old October 7th, 2014, 12:43 AM   #982
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Old October 17th, 2014, 01:03 AM   #983
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So the work is just indefinitely stalled/on hold??
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Old October 17th, 2014, 01:09 AM   #984
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So the work is just indefinitely stalled/on hold??
The problem is the fire supression system. They are working on alternatives to make it safe. The building and all of its systems are in place and ready to go.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 10:43 AM   #985
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In the new movie "Lucy" with Scarlett Johanson there are scenes filmed in Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, in Rome Fiumicino Airport and in Berlin Tegel Airport. Paris and Rome's airports looked really fancy, whereas the Berlin airport looked oudated and rancid. Way to go Berlin! Great advertising!
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Old October 17th, 2014, 11:13 AM   #986
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In the new movie "Lucy" with Scarlett Johanson there are scenes filmed in Paris Charles de Gaulle Airport, in Rome Fiumicino Airport and in Berlin Tegel Airport. Paris and Rome's airports looked really fancy, whereas the Berlin airport looked oudated and rancid. Way to go Berlin! Great advertising!
Charles de Gaulle airport looked nice? That's got to be very selective shooting. It is not my favourite airport I have to say - especially terminal 1. Though the design is rather iconic, it is ugly and a bit outdated.

I'm looking forward to this new airport to be opened. The pictures of it look really good, so soon Berlin will be able to replace Tegel at least.
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Old October 17th, 2014, 03:07 PM   #987
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I've flown to/from CDG and TXL several times, and I'll pick TXL over CDG anytime. CDG has its nice and futuristic looking bits and pieces, but it feels chaotic and in most places just blah. Service is slow and everything is expensive and way too big. TXL does look outdated, but it's an agreeable place to arrive at or depart from. The biggest downside of TXL is that it's not connected to neither the U-bahn nor S-bahn networks. That bus shuttle to anywhere is pretty annoying.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 06:13 AM   #988
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You'd only pick CDG if you're flying Air France.
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Old October 18th, 2014, 11:19 AM   #989
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Last time it was Air Canada though. Cheap fare. But not entirely satisfied with the airport.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 07:06 PM   #990
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New BER highscore: 8 billion Euros

http://www.thelocal.de/20140401/berl...-hit-8-billion

Stealing money has never been so easy! Join the BER mafia right now!
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 07:44 PM   #991
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 07:52 PM   #992
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It can't possibly cost another €6 billion not yet spent. If that was the case, it would be far cheaper (as in €4 billion cheaper) to just tear down the blighted terminal and rebuild it from scratch.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 10:34 PM   #993
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I just cannot believe or Understand this complete mess of a project. Its just like having a bad dream, but worse.

And in Germany ?????? Thats even more shocking.
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Old November 3rd, 2014, 10:44 PM   #994
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Do you actually know Berlin´s state motto: poor but sexy?
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Old November 4th, 2014, 12:29 AM   #995
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Do you actually know Berlin´s state motto: poor but sexy?
There is nothing SEXY about this project. SHAMBLES comes to mind.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 12:33 AM   #996
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So upon further reading, now I understand the figures.

The original estimation was € 2 billion, but that excluded ancillary projects like the relocation of S-Bahn tracks + new station and other facilities.

The whole project already cost € 5,5 billion - this figure is not comparable to the original estimation.

On a worst case scenario where the whole terminal needs to be completely demolished and rebuilt from scratch, another € 1,8 billion might be needed. There are also some potential liabilities with users of the new airport. Nothing indicates demolition is needed.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 02:37 AM   #997
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Berlin Airport needs a runway and €3.2 billion

ild am Sonntag reported that Berlin Airport CEO Hartmut Mehdorn wants the money to build a new runway and complete the project which was meant to open in 2012 and cost around €2 billion.

Despite spending €5.4 billion so far, the airport has been built too small. It will have a capacity of 27 million passengers a year. That compares with 90 million a year at London's Heathrow and 65 million at Frankfurt Airport.

The initial plan was to close Berlin's aging airports, Tegel and Schönefeld, when the new one opened. Between them Tegel and Schönefeld are already dealing with more than 26 million passengers a year and that number is growing.

That number would put the overbudget and long-delayed new transport hub at capacity as soon as it opens.

To address that, Mehdorn wants to build a third runway, Bild am Sonntag reported, saying it had seen documents detailing the latest airport costs.

Mehdorn wants to extend the main terminal building for €1.3 billion and build a third runway for €1 billion.
Other costs include €120 million for extending luggage facilities, €130 million for rebuilding the entrance hall and €20 million for a soundproof hangar to test aircraft engines.

Expanding the current runways and taxiways will cost another €430 million.

Less urgent extra costs in the documents include a 60-metre tall flag pole and a statue of Chancellor Willy Brandt, who the airport is named after, for €500,000 each.

The opposition Green Party reacted with anger to the list. "Madness continues to reign at Berlin Airport," Oliver Krischer, deputy leader of the Greens said. "Whether and how the airport is ever to be operated economically, no one knows."

With huge cost overruns, corruption scandals and no opening date, the airport has long been a national embarrassment.

An airport spokesman declined to comment on the reports.

http://www.thelocal.de/20141103/berl...and-new-runway
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Old November 4th, 2014, 03:01 AM   #998
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It is the third time people are posting the same article...

The new runway would be an addition to make BER a major hub, but it is not needed to guarantee the opening of the airport, neither was it budgeted on the initial plan. It is just that they feel leaving Berlin with just 2 runways (instead of the 5 they had until Tempelhof closed) is too little.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 12:04 PM   #999
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It would make a whole lot more sense to begin building that runway now, when the airport is not in use (as several years ago is no longer an option), rather than waiting a few years when it has opened and already is
suffering from overcrowding.
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Old November 4th, 2014, 12:30 PM   #1000
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I'm surprised at how much waste and mismanagement has surrounded this project. And in Germany of all places. I hope it gets sorted soon. A wonderful and important city like Berlin must have a large and modern airport to service it.
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