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Old May 12th, 2017, 09:12 PM   #1201
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Maybe this would be an appropriate time to repost the first post in this thread, given that we are closing in on the revised opening time of summer 2017:
Is this a typo?? Did you mean 2018?
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Old May 13th, 2017, 01:26 AM   #1202
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Is this a typo?? Did you mean 2018?
2019

http://t.maz-online.de/Brandenburg/G...lich-erst-2019

https://m.morgenpost.de/flughafen-be...berblick.html/

https://solidbau.at/a/pannen-flughaf...laenger-dauern
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Old May 13th, 2017, 10:42 AM   #1203
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Is this a typo?? Did you mean 2018?
I was idly poking fun at the Pythonesque project plan. Again.

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"Summer 2017" was a deadline given in 2014, though to be fair, it was "no earlier than".

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And we have an opening date!

It´s summer 2017 (or 2018).
For the record, the expansion of Oslo Airport by 2017 I mentioned in my follow-up message has just opened.

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I've also read that the Gardermoen airport in Oslo (city population: 650,000, country population: 5 million) will have finished its expansion in 2017 as well, leaving it with a capacity of 28 million (it is currently serving 23-24 million annually). If BER opens in 2017, it will be with a capacity of 27 million, for a city of 3,500,000 inhabitants in a country with 81 million.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 02:07 AM   #1204
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So 2018? I love Berlin but the current airport is out of date.
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 04:43 AM   #1205
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My fear is that when BER opens, they decide not to shut down TXL under the guise of "we need more capacity, let's divide the hubs", and then, out of habit, current airlines delay the move to BER
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Old May 22nd, 2017, 11:03 PM   #1206
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So 2018? I love Berlin but the current airport is out of date.
Current estimates suggest the airport will open in 2019.
An opening in 2020 is not ruled out.

Doch nach Tagesspiegel-Informationen rechnet die Flughafengesellschaft im internen aktuellen Arbeitsentwurf für einen neuen Inbetriebnahmefahrplan bereits mit einer frühestmöglichen Eröffnung des BER Ende 2019, intern wird nicht ausgeschlossen, dass es auch 2020 werden könnte

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/fl.../19834556.html
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 01:38 AM   #1207
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Let's just say the opening will be sometime in the 21st century. And that's 100% sure.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 11:01 AM   #1208
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My fear is that when BER opens, they decide not to shut down TXL under the guise of "we need more capacity, let's divide the hubs", and then, out of habit, current airlines delay the move to BER
Airlines already think this will be the case and airlines with no based aircraft like Aer Lingus believe they will still be at Tegel until Brandenburg Terminal 2..or is that 3? ... is built in 2035 or so.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 09:19 PM   #1209
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I am impressed the renovation of the old buildings in Berlin and hope it will get done.
Do they have the S or U to the new airport?

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Current estimates suggest the airport will open in 2019.
An opening in 2020 is not ruled out.

Doch nach Tagesspiegel-Informationen rechnet die Flughafengesellschaft im internen aktuellen Arbeitsentwurf für einen neuen Inbetriebnahmefahrplan bereits mit einer frühestmöglichen Eröffnung des BER Ende 2019, intern wird nicht ausgeschlossen, dass es auch 2020 werden könnte

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Old May 23rd, 2017, 10:31 PM   #1210
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I am impressed the renovation of the old buildings in Berlin and hope it will get done.
Do they have the S or U to the new airport?
There is an S-Bahn and a mainline station right beneath the terminal.
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Old May 23rd, 2017, 11:00 PM   #1211
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I am impressed the renovation of the old buildings in Berlin and hope it will get done.
Do they have the S or U to the new airport?
The S-Bahn, line S9

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Airlines already think this will be the case and airlines with no based aircraft like Aer Lingus believe they will still be at Tegel until Brandenburg Terminal 2..or is that 3? ... is built in 2035 or so.
The Brandenburg Terminal 2 will be the old complex of Schönefeld Airport:
https://flug.check24.de/news/schoene...terminal-62244

It's old, but it's already working.
The Terminal 1 has some technical....issues:

Just two months ago, the transformer station exploded:
http://www.bild.de/regional/berlin/f...8962.bild.html

On february 2017, It became public the faliture of the sprinkler system. The pipes are too thin and the roof needs to be opened and the pipes will get exchanged:
http://www.focus.de/finanzen/news/ha...d_6631123.html
(There is also the risk of collapsing of the ceiling. The roof was found to be too heavy to hold up
http://www.dw.com/en/danger-of-colla...ion/a-18728091)
In february 2017 It became public that the 80% of the doors do not open and will be replaced:
http://www.bz-berlin.de/berlin/neue-...icht-eroeffnet

Also 600 walls will be replaced:
https://www.rt.com/news/316937-berli...ort-tear-down/
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Old May 24th, 2017, 12:09 AM   #1212
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Maybe they should just demolish the whole thing and build it again? I heard Chinese are pretty good at infrastructure projects lately... Well maybe quality is not topnotch, but at least they can get the damn thing done.
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Old May 24th, 2017, 01:37 AM   #1213
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May be not a bad idea if the cost keeps going up but why not Germany company handles it.
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Maybe they should just demolish the whole thing and build it again? I heard Chinese are pretty good at infrastructure projects lately... Well maybe quality is not topnotch, but at least they can get the damn thing done.
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Old May 24th, 2017, 04:26 PM   #1214
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The rest of Terminal 1 has some unique features.
For istance, have you ever seen three steps after the escalators?



https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/artic...e-des-BER.html
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Old May 24th, 2017, 07:04 PM   #1215
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The rest of Terminal 1 has some unique features.
For istance, have you ever seen three steps after the escalators?



https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/artic...e-des-BER.html
I'm starting to think the best thing they could do is to completely demolish it and build a new one, this is getting too funny...
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Old May 24th, 2017, 08:58 PM   #1216
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but why not Germany company handles it.
As you can see they clearly cannot do the job...
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Old May 24th, 2017, 10:34 PM   #1217
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Pipes too thin, roofs that don't support, majority of doors that don't work, hundreds of walls to replace, three steps after escalators? What is going on here? What an embarrassment!
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Old May 25th, 2017, 04:04 PM   #1218
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I am impressed the renovation of the old buildings in Berlin and hope it will get done.
Do they have the S or U to the new airport?
The rail transport to the airport would actually be pretty good. it would just take for the station to open, as right now the whole thing is mothballed.

Actually it would make sense for more high speed or long distance train to stop here. Not just westward (Berlin Airport-Hauptbahnhof-Hanover), but also eastward (Poznan-Warsaw), and as a south/north (Budapest/Vienna-)Prague-Malmö/Copenhagen. Only that for instance the Poznan line does not even exist. It might by the time the airport opens though.



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Old May 25th, 2017, 07:08 PM   #1219
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Do not worry. They will open BER very shortly after Lufthansa acquire AirBerlin All the problems will be then solved magically
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Old May 26th, 2017, 10:16 AM   #1220
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The rest of Terminal 1 has some unique features.
For istance, have you ever seen three steps after the escalators?



https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/artic...e-des-BER.html
What the hell is going on here?!?
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