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Old February 18th, 2009, 01:01 AM   #21
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The three large cities used to have trolleybus networks in the past.
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Old February 18th, 2009, 11:39 PM   #22
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yes should we put pictures from the past here ? If yes that will help to have a historic perspective also for this huge thread...
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Old February 20th, 2009, 07:13 AM   #23
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Very good pictures!


They show the remarkable progress that Turkey has made over past decade in upgrading public transit.
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Old February 20th, 2009, 09:07 PM   #24
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1) Please publish a full fledge electric tram map with routes of Istanbul showing how it was before closure in 1966 and showing the past & present tram system's common routes.

2) (According to LRTA), I think Bursa, Adana & Izmir's system is light rail, not metro, and Kayseri's system is tram, not light rail. Am I right?
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Old February 20th, 2009, 09:29 PM   #25
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I opened a topic about urban transport in Turkey which included any type of vehicle but I think there should be also one focused on rail systems since there is a real boom concerning urban rail transit. Nearly all major cities build/still building
rail systems in the last 10 years. A nice development which may surprise some.

Istanbul Metro:

Istanbul metro:
Istanbul LRT:
Istanbul Tramway:
Istanbul's nostalgic trams:
Istanbul Suburban rail:

being replaced by MARMARAY:
http://www.dersaadettramvayi.com/kaynak.html is the best website about Istanbul tram, but sadly, it is in Turkish, which I can't read. How can I translate the pages to English?

1) Please publish a full fledge electric tram map with routes of Istanbul showing how it was before closure in 1966 and showing the past & present tram system's common routes.

2) (According to LRTA), I think Bursa, Adana & Izmir's system is light rail, not metro, and Kayseri's system is tram, not light rail. Am I right?

I've created a thread named 'Istanbul tramway & subway'. Please go to that thread and help me by answering my questions.
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Old February 21st, 2009, 03:08 AM   #26
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2) (According to LRTA), I think Bursa, Adana & Izmir's system is light rail, not metro, and Kayseri's system is tram, not light rail. Am I right?
The Bursa and Adana systems are light rail that have some underground stations. Kayseri is definitely light rail not a tram.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 12:12 AM   #27
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Istanbul tramways 1926-1966 maps from the past.


1926 map.

map of 1950 European side.
I will try to scan and upload soon a bigger map;which will include also Asian side tram lines.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 12:18 AM   #28
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Istanbul current tram map


the red line and the dark blue line will be connect in March 2009.Construction of this connection is almost complated, but the map does not includes this last detail.

The 2nd question : Yes it is right.
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 12:27 AM   #29
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Old February 22nd, 2009, 11:10 PM   #30
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1) Please publish a full fledge electric tram map with routes of Istanbul showing how it was before closure in 1966 and showing the past & present tram system's common routes.

2) (According to LRTA), I think Bursa, Adana & Izmir's system is light rail, not metro, and Kayseri's system is tram, not light rail. Am I right?
About the first question i can't help you since it's about history but I know that the city was full of tram lines (really full) and all were removed later.

About your second question. Izmir, Adana and Bursa are metro, metro doesn't have to be underground and Kayseri's system is light rail since it's isolated from traffic. Tram is that one line in Istanbul which shares the street with cars but Kayseri doesn't do that.

Metro: Isolated track with underground stations or elevated stations with higher capacity vehicles that accelerate more quickly

Light rail: Isolated but mostly only one or two stations in the city center are underground the rest is on street level

Tram: Sharing the street with cars and stops at traffic lights. Low acceleration, short vehicles with less capacity.
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Old February 26th, 2009, 12:30 AM   #31
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T- 4 NEW EXTENTION VIADUCT / ISTANBUL

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Old February 26th, 2009, 12:05 PM   #32
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When I stayed in Side (between Antayla and Alanya) back in 2002 public transport was either mini buses where the conducter would sometimes be a 10 year old kid '5000 lyra thanks'.
From those pictures it seems that Turkey's public transport is far more advanced than my city Sydney.
Did notice that one of those metro trains had the same symbol used by CityRail and former State Rail New South Wales.

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Old February 26th, 2009, 01:01 PM   #33
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your efforts are very much appreciated.

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Old February 27th, 2009, 11:03 PM   #34
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http://www.dersaadettramvayi.com/kaynak.html is the best website about Istanbul tram, but it is in Turkish, which I can't read. How can I translate the pages to English?
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Old February 28th, 2009, 01:02 AM   #35
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I heard that this will have English translation pages and they are working on this.Hope we can read all in English too.
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Old February 28th, 2009, 02:21 AM   #36
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Old March 1st, 2009, 02:22 PM   #37
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I heard that this will have English translation pages and they are working on this.Hope we can read all in English too.
Thank you very very much for this wish.
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Old March 7th, 2009, 11:44 PM   #38
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Old March 8th, 2009, 01:17 AM   #39
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they are sooo hot!
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Old December 1st, 2009, 02:44 PM   #40
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I think, the Adana, Bursa & Izmir's systems are light rails, not metro, because the runs mostly overground reserved track, and has narrow stocks.

What is the current status of Kayseri, Samsun & Gazi Antep's tramway?
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