日本語 Japanese language discussion

[quashlo]

絡まれた
I imagine once you nail down how the sounds transform, it's not so bad... It's actually not that hard to pick out words here and there.

[castermaild55]

Originally Posted by quashlo

絡まれた
I imagine once you nail down how the sounds transform, it's not so bad... It's actually not that hard to pick out words here and there.

it sounds like korean

btw

[castermaild55]

I like konish

[castermaild55]

[castermaild55]

[castermaild55]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2POqo...feature=relmfu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxBfv...feature=relmfu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqMdi...feature=relmfu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJrUS...feature=relmfu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRTE9...feature=relmfu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSDGE...feature=relmfu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKf8SKsSdAY
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00ekZEMNfNU
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twe4k37VTP8

[quashlo]

Part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbNvzgUKEmY
Part 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exG29byse2I

[CVTower]

Originally Posted by castermaild55

I like konish

What show is this? I got a good laugh at how they changed their tone of voice in the 1st video

[castermaild55]

[quashlo]

普段は女性の声をあんまり気にしない方だけど、これは良い

[ukiyo]

[ukiyo]

Originally Posted by castermaild55

[jimmy spong]

こんにちは。 Luka です。モンテネグロ人。

And thats basicaly it

I was fooled with all online lessons saying "japanese is not that hard", but after i've been struggling with even most basic sentences, i can only say: japanese is extremely damm hard to learn.

I've been trying to put up a sentence "I'm trying to learn Japanese" for almost 45 minutes, and failed. I don't get how to express persons, i dont understand should i use は and if yes, or no, then why, i dont get if i should use some prepositons before verb, or a noun, absolutely nothing, i don't get do i keep informal forms of the verbs, or not. Seems like Japanese is really hard to learn without proper course

I couldn't write my name in Kanji, so if someone can fix it please

For the rest of the characters, i had to improvise, since i don't have Japanese keyboard

[ukiyo]

ルカ is your name in japanese, it should be in Katakana. You should also add desu after 人.

Here is a good website on japanese grammer: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar

BTW you don't need a japanese keyboard, install japanese language on windows (it's free and should be included) and then you can do it. Follow this: http://www.yesjapan.com/install_japanese/

[jimmy spong]

Originally Posted by ukiyo

ルカ is your name in japanese, it should be in Katakana. You should also add desu after 人.

Ok, i get it for desu. Lesson i read simply said to put 人 after nation name, but i guess desu makes sense.

Here is a good website on japanese grammer: http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/grammar

BTW you don't need a japanese keyboard, install japanese language on windows (it's free and should be included) and then you can do it. Follow this: http://www.yesjapan.com/install_japanese/

Since i was stuck with this sentence, can you help me keep going. I will start with latin letters.

So i was going to say "I'm trying to learn Japanese"

As much as i figured, sentences go like subject-object-verb, but for some reasons "Japanese" always seem to go first.

So it would be "Nihongo-o " (日本語を ?), and then i have these two words, narau ( 習う ) for to learn, and Tamesu (試す) for try. So, try should go into present form (which is informal ?) and should be at the end of sentence, while to learn should be somehow converted to express my own person (because im not talking about other person, right ?). How do i make this sentence properly, if you could use latin writting as well

Thank you.

Do you suggest btw, that i learn hiragana and katakana characters first before going into grammar ?

[ukiyo]

I think it is better to say you are studying japanese: 日本語を勉強しています。 nihongo wo benkyou shiteimasu

I am trying to learn japanese: 日本語を習おうとしています。 nihongo wo naraou to shiteimasu

Both are polite.

Originally Posted by jimmy spong

Do you suggest btw, that i learn hiragana and katakana characters first before going into grammar ?

You can do both, especially hiragana is important and it's not hard. You can use this website to test yourself http://www.realkana.com/

[jimmy spong]

Originally Posted by ukiyo

I think it is better to say you are studying japanese: 日本語を勉強しています。 nihongo wo benkyou shiteimasu

I am trying to learn japanese: 日本語を習おうとしています。 nihongo wo naraou to shiteimasu

So it's naraou, not narau ? You added this one extra character which i didn't see in dictionary 習おう, also you use wo, is it the same as "o", or something different ?

Both are polite.

You add (i)masu for more polite meaning ?

Thanks, for all links, i'll call it a day, since this book you recommended looks like it got the point about learning Japanese in a proper way (not only learning as much "usefull" phrases), i might order it printed for more convenient reading

Thanks again, or shall i say ありがとう。

[ukiyo]

Originally Posted by jimmy spong

So it's naraou, not narau ? You added this one extra character which i didn't see in dictionary 習おう, also you use wo, is it the same as "o", or something different ?

It's verb conjugation: http://japanese.about.com/blverb27.htm

wo = o. It is written as wo を but said o in general speech.

You add (i)masu for more polite meaning ?

Desu and Masu is the general polite form. For example dewa arimasen vs ja nai.

Thanks, for all links, i'll call it a day, since this book you recommended looks like it got the point about learning Japanese in a proper way (not only learning as much "usefull" phrases), i might order it printed for more convenient reading

Thanks again, or shall i say ありがとう。

Good luck

[Jeremyy]

I recommend working through the author of that grammar guide's 'complete guide to japanese' on that same site. http://www.guidetojapanese.org/learn/complete
It's not complete yet but even in it's current state it will give you a good start.

[jimmy spong]

As i can see, it's not available printed. You agree it is a bit hard to study over screen, since it makes you tired of reading quickly, hence killing your motivation. I would need PC for helping with vocabulary and other stuff ofc...