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Old January 18th, 2016, 02:07 PM   #2661
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Patel no more 747 on the route?
Mostly 747 on that route, occasionally A300.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 02:09 PM   #2662
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Has Aseman dropped some international routes?
If you mean their service to Stockholm and Kuala Lumpur: yes, years ago.

I don't know why it takes such a long time to repair the A340 (EP-APA).
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Old January 18th, 2016, 02:51 PM   #2663
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If you mean their service to Stockholm and Kuala Lumpur: yes, years ago.

I don't know why it takes such a long time to repair the A340 (EP-APA).
Actually stockholm was served until October 2015 or so
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Old January 18th, 2016, 02:57 PM   #2664
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Does the lifting of sanctions mean the 747's can now fly to europe? How long do you think it'll take till europe flights don't need to refuel anymore?
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Old January 18th, 2016, 03:07 PM   #2665
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Actually stockholm was served until October 2015 or so
Stockholm was suspended in 2014/beginning of 2015. Then they still flew to KUL some months after that. In April 2015 it flew Rouhani on a Presidental tour to Jakarta. And in August 2015 it was in IST when it damaged one of its engines, it later flew back to Tehran will no passengers and used only three out of four engines. It took some time for Aseman to get a new engine and apperently it is still ongoing some checks.

Since then it hasn't been used
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Old January 18th, 2016, 03:12 PM   #2666
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Does the lifting of sanctions mean the 747's can now fly to europe? How long do you think it'll take till europe flights don't need to refuel anymore?
You probably won't see any Iranian B747 to Europe as they are banned by EU, and they are also busy on routes to Asia.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 03:33 PM   #2667
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It will take time for new aircraft to arrive. See who announces new routes at this big do later this week in Tehran. I'll bet Turkish will for starters.

http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...of-2016-247061
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Old January 18th, 2016, 04:33 PM   #2668
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You can pretty fast get many aircraft now:

Boeing 747-8I (3 are already built and wait for customer), B777-300ER.

With current oil prices, even fleet of older used aircraft isn't something unthinkable.
Many Boeings 777-200ER could be purcharsed, B767-300ERs or Boeing 747-400s.

The same goes with Airbus A340s.

These would be cheap for purchase, but have to go through 2-3 months of heavy maintenance checks and interior refurbishment.

Narrowbodies are different story, but still it's possible to buy/lease used B737NG, Southwest purchased many B737-700s lately.
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Old January 18th, 2016, 04:43 PM   #2669
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Indeed, brand new B748s can be purchased with short delivery time. Maybe even a discount can be issued as the demand for them is low.

Malaysia Airlines is trying to sell A380s now, they are quite desperate to get rid of them. May Iran Air buy or lease them?
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Old January 18th, 2016, 06:46 PM   #2670
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I think as Malaysian is currently getting rid of all their 777, they will keep their 380s in the fleet for their only remaining european route to London and to some asian destinations
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Old January 18th, 2016, 06:54 PM   #2671
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Apperently British Airways is getting some of Malaysia's A380s...
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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:33 PM   #2672
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British Airways hopes to fly to Tehran in near future


British Airways hopes to start flying to Tehran in the near future, the chief executive of its parent company IAG said on Monday after the lifting of sanctions against Iran.

"We are very interested in flying to Tehran and we are hopeful that it will form part of BA's network in the very near future," International Airlines Group CEO Willie Walsh told the Airlines Economics conference in Dublin.

"We are actively looking at it as a destination," he added.

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Old January 18th, 2016, 11:49 PM   #2673
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I would like to know the exact details of what air frames they will purchase from Airbus.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 12:06 AM   #2674
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I would like to know the exact details of what air frames they will purchase from Airbus.
We don't know yet.

We'll get that information on JAN27th-28th
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Old January 19th, 2016, 02:30 AM   #2675
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BRITISH AIRWAYS to fly to Tehran in "very near future"

Looks like British Airways is coming back to Tehran. They just announced that they are launching nonstop London Heathrow to Tehran flights soon.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 02:57 AM   #2676
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If you mean their service to Stockholm and Kuala Lumpur: yes, years ago.

I don't know why it takes such a long time to repair the A340 (EP-APA).
They seem to be out of Iraq as well as some central Asian and gulf routes.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 02:59 AM   #2677
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Hmm. I don't think Iran will order ANY aircraft from Airbus other than a token few A330 neos perhaps. They will go second hand for most of their requirements. But they will certainly tend to get Airbus rather than Boeing planes given all the problems with spare parts and embargos over the years.

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You can get many aircraft pretty fast now:

With current oil prices, even fleet of older used aircraft isn't something unthinkable. These would be cheap for purchase, but have to go through 2-3 months of heavy maintenance checks and interior refurbishment.

Narrowbodies are different story, but still it's possible to buy/lease used B737NG, Southwest purchased many B737-700s lately.
If Iran buys '114 Airbus Aircraft' like the news said I would think they will mainly require narrows. Iran is a massive country, over 3x the size of Spain, and flying is the easiest way to get around internally.

So 80 narrows and 34 wides sounds about right if 114 a/c are required and it is possible to get a 777 for less than $10m nowadays as Delta crowed loudly at all of us last month.

It looks like BA are also doing a Delta and are looking at not new aircraft for the first time ever so the market for old (but not too old) widebody a/c could warm up this year for a change. It was cooling rapid a few months back. Oil prices are very low which helps of course.

As Piotr said all the wides can be sourced quickly enough but the narrows....not so easy. The order books for narrows are jammers. I'd be looking at ex Easyjet and Lufthansa A320s and similar if I was in a hurry to retire some of the museum pieces flying there today.

Iran will probably buy some Sukhois SSJs too as the lead times are good on those by Narrow standards. Perhaps some Embraers too, new and old.

Turboprops like ATRs or Saabs too no doubt. They are always useful internally.

I'd move fast for the wides and take my time with the narrows. I suspect some airlines like Norwegian will have A320neos to lease out fairly soon and they can be used on high revenue routes where reliability is important with the older ones on lower revenue internal routes.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 07:15 AM   #2678
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A PIA A320 visited Tehran yesterday as VIP flight.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 12:24 PM   #2679
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They seem to be out of Iraq as well as some central Asian and gulf routes.
I think they only operate Istanbul, Yerevan and Dubai now as intl.
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Old January 19th, 2016, 02:20 PM   #2680
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Iran airspace is full of A380s to and from Europe and US to Dubai...daily. Iraqi airspace is the one that is avoided since Daesh have possession of older S300 missiles (but maybe not their radars) along with Ukraine airspace.

That leaves a busy route across Iran and Turkey that is safe.
Heard Iran was also to avoided because Russia where bombing Syria from Caspian sea.

Btw, will Iran Air have to refuel again between Paris/London to Tehran?
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