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Old November 15th, 2016, 05:25 PM   #3061
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first one?

Airbus A321-211 7418 EP-IFA Iran Air f/f 15nov16, all white ex D-AVXF

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Yes, not 100% confirmed though, but it looks promising. Follow me on Twitter @aviationirancom where I tweet news every day.
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Old November 16th, 2016, 01:48 PM   #3062
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Old November 19th, 2016, 01:19 AM   #3063
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Are these, the new websites of Iran air?

- for Germany : http://www.iranair.de/en/
- for France : http://www.iranair.fr/en/
- for Austria : http://www.iranair.at/en/
- for Sweden ; http://www.iranair.se/en/
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Old November 20th, 2016, 10:57 AM   #3064
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I'm afriad that now with Trump in power, Iran may have once again a hard time procuring new aircraft from Boeing and Airbus
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Old November 20th, 2016, 01:06 PM   #3065
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Are these, the new websites of Iran air?

- for Germany : http://www.iranair.de/en/
- for France : http://www.iranair.fr/en/
- for Austria : http://www.iranair.at/en/
- for Sweden ; http://www.iranair.se/en/
Nope, and there are even more
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Old November 20th, 2016, 01:09 PM   #3066
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Nope, and there are even more
More what?
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Old November 20th, 2016, 01:10 PM   #3067
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More what?
More Iran Air domains. Around 10 I think.
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Old November 20th, 2016, 01:47 PM   #3068
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More Iran Air domains. Around 10 I think.
Ah ok. Btw, www.iranair.com doesn't work these days, I guess they are changing it
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Old November 21st, 2016, 11:39 AM   #3069
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Deliveries of new planes have become very uncertain after the Trump election and a congressional vote against the Boeing deal.

http://gulfnews.com/business/aviatio...take-1.1932552


Airbus is also looking into the implications of these developments for their deal with Iran. Therefor it's not even clear if Airbus will be able to deliver the 1 A321 that is now earmarked for delivery to Iran.
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Old November 22nd, 2016, 09:11 PM   #3070
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But for now the Obama administration has granted Airbus a license to sell 106 planes to Iran.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ir...-idUSKBN13H1W0


If Airbus is smart they start to deliver as many planes as possible in the next 2 months. Only financing could be an issue, American financing is still prohibited. But Iran can use cash or use no US financing options. When Donald Trump comes into office in 2 months from now it's very likely that the export licenses will again be revoked.

ps. due to the large amount of US parts in Airbus planes it needs a US export license to be sold even if Airbus is not an American company.
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Old November 25th, 2016, 02:44 PM   #3071
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But for now the Obama administration has granted Airbus a license to sell 106 planes to Iran.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ir...-idUSKBN13H1W0


If Airbus is smart they start to deliver as many planes as possible in the next 2 months. Only financing could be an issue, American financing is still prohibited. But Iran can use cash or use no US financing options. When Donald Trump comes into office in 2 months from now it's very likely that the export licenses will again be revoked.

ps. due to the large amount of US parts in Airbus planes it needs a US export license to be sold even if Airbus is not an American company.
It won't get revoked as this agreement is not an agreement between the US and Iran, but an agreement between several nations.

If it gets revoked, the US will get a harsh response from the European Union, Russia and China!
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Old November 25th, 2016, 02:49 PM   #3072
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Let's hope so because this obsession of the West, and especially the US, against Iran is just a complete non sense
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Old November 25th, 2016, 04:32 PM   #3073
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It won't get revoked as this agreement is not an agreement between the US and Iran, but an agreement between several nations.

If it gets revoked, the US will get a harsh response from the European Union, Russia and China!
What happpened to your designs? Did any airline agree to them?
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Old November 25th, 2016, 05:28 PM   #3074
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It won't get revoked as this agreement is not an agreement between the US and Iran, but an agreement between several nations.

If it gets revoked, the US will get a harsh response from the European Union, Russia and China!
It's not the agreement that will be revoked, although the US could pull out, but that's a different discussion not this subforum. It's the export licenses from the US which they recently gave to Airbus that will be revoked. Without these export licences no new Airbus planes can be delivered to Iran.

These licences are also the reason why no new planes have been delivered to Iran yet, even though the deal is already in place for over a year. It's all very much more difficult then people expected last year with the signing of the deal and earlier this year when everyone was announcing large orders.

With the election of Donald Trump it becomes even more difficult, and it doesn't matter what Iran, the EU and it's countries, any other country or Airbus and Boeing think of it. He doesn't seem to care too much what the rest of the world thinks of him.
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Old November 25th, 2016, 09:59 PM   #3075
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Trump also has the power to block any USD denominated transactions to take place immediately if he wants which would not just hurt the aircraft orders, but the holly grail which is oil exports.

In all honesty the Iranian aircraft order deal is actually good for Trumps America first policy. Americans get jobs manufacturing these air frames, plus no Iranian Airline will ever really be competing with US carriers so their jobs are secure.
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Old November 26th, 2016, 01:09 AM   #3076
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In all honesty the Iranian aircraft order deal is actually good for Trumps America first policy. Americans get jobs manufacturing these air frames, plus no Iranian Airline will ever really be competing with US carriers so their jobs are secure.
Editorial: Congress shouldn’t kill Boeing’s sale to Iran Air

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Killing the sales by Boeing and Airbus to Iran doesn’t make us any safer, could give Iran reason to start up its nuclear program again and would cost jobs for Washington state workers.

http://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/edi...e-to-iran-air/
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Old November 26th, 2016, 01:43 AM   #3077
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Old November 26th, 2016, 08:50 AM   #3078
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It's just very uncertain what Trump will do. But the one lesson from the election is to never underestimate him, and he has already shown that he has no problem coming back from previous statements.

Another problem is the even larger conservative majority in congress, I they vote against it following the hard liners that have always been against the nuclear deal, and Trump doesn't block this vote, it's also going to be the end of any new airplane sales to Iran.

It's just very uncertain what will happen after January 20, 2017.

This also makes it very interesting to see what Airbus does with the recently granted permissions. Will they book the large order on the O&D sheet on the November update, or will they also be waiting to see what Trump will do. Maybe only booking the planes that they will deliver, like this A321 as firm orders. But then again, a large order looks good on the order book and it gives them a better position in their lobbying and diplomatic efforts to keep the order afloat.

Boeing has also started lobbying, the Heraldnet article posted by Qtya is basically an editorial written by Boeing. Everyone connected to Airbus, Boeing, Embreaer, Mitsubishi, Sukhoi will be using their lobbying power to keep this deal alive.
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One of Trumps resolutions is to forbid foreign interest lobbying in Washington anymore. They could be penalized with life time bans come January. Remember he's a business man, a builder who knows how to work with money, and who knows how to seal the deal. He owns nobody anything whats so ever which has foreign interest groups scratching their heads.

Regarding Trump two things will happen, either he will reconsider his stance on the Iran sanctions deal with minor changes that make him feel the deal is better, or he will go forward with his intention to quash the deal.

He's the type of man if he does quash the deal, he won't do the KSA any favors either. Back to common sense, and a very tough stance on who's the boss.

One very good joker Iran has is it's Russian connection. Putin could persuade Trump to lighten up a little with his Iran rhetoric, and find a solution which benefits everyone.

One things for sure Trump wants to put a stop to ISIS, and has a very clear picture of who's supporting them unlike the Democrats who are playing devil's advocate. This also plays into Iran's favor because they, and Trump have the same enemy.
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Old November 26th, 2016, 10:24 AM   #3080
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I'm not familiar with the financing solutions e.g. Embraer offers for their jets, but the US Treasury's move could push fwd an E-Jet family deal. Or maybe it's a backdoor move from Boeing, as they were in talks with Japanese and Brazilian banks over financing their jets.

US Treasury Assures Brazilian Banks of Iran Trade

A senior Brazilian official said the US Treasury Department has given assurances that Brazilian banks can do trade with Iran without fear of sanctions.

https://www.tasnimnews.com/en/news/2...-of-iran-trade

Of course I'm not at all familiar how reliable these sources are.

There is so much speculation going on hard to wait out the facts.
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