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Old December 4th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #61
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Yep I was too curious to let this one go lol

I looked up the photo on airliners.net its dated 20 Dec 2010. Heathrow was snowbound so there were a lot of diversions including 3 BA 744s to Athens

BA12 from Singapore operated by Boeing 747-400 G-BYGB diverted to Athens.

BA28 from Hong Kong operated by Boeing 747-400 G-CIVB diverted to Athens

BA10 from Sydney and Bangkok operated by Boeing 747-400 G-BNLY diverted to Athens.

(All from The BA Source website)
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Old September 21st, 2012, 10:16 AM   #62
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Emirates on 26OCT12 is to operate Airbus A380 aircraft on Dubai – Athens service, replacing Airbus A340-500 aircraft on one-time basis.

The airline will operate 517-seater configuration A380 on this date. Schedule:

EK105 DXB0855 – 1250ATH 388
EK106 ATH1640 – 2205DXB 388

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Emirates is going to send their A380 to Athens again, but this time on a scheduled flight. Probably this is part of a marketing campaing, or as an extreme mind would think, a test for a future change .

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The first and only time I used the underground pedestrian way between the main terminal and satellite terminal at Eleftherios Venizelos was upon arrival on a Swiss Intl A320 from ZRH during the 2004 Olympic Games. The pedestrian tunnel seemed very nice and spacious. I seem to recall that it did not have the option of a moving walkway. And that the length was close to 500m. Perhaps this is why upon disembarking from the aircraft we were given the option of boarding a shuttle bus for the main terminal.

Yet on my departure 10 days later we boarded a shuttle bus at the main terminal lower departure gates and were shuttled to the Satellite Terminal to and took the staircase up to the gate area before boarding the Swiss Intl A320 through the JetWay (boarding bridge).

My questions are as follows:

1) Were major airlines somehow opposed to their passengers having to walk the distance of the pedestrian "Link" tunnel to the Satellite Terminal?

2) Are any new boarding gates (with JetWays) going to be installed in the Main Terminal - Satellite Terminal bridge?

3) Or is the sole purpose of the above ground Main Terminal - Satellite Terminal bridge to add retail space (shops, restaurants, etc) to get travelers to part with more Euros.
Sorry for answering so late, but since no one else bothered i hope you don't mind. To be honest i was trying to find a picture of the undergound connection for quite some time now. I was sure that there is a moving walkway installed, and reading your comments about 2004 i managed to find one picture in airport gallery. The picture even though not zoomed at all it clearly shows its existance. Check this gallery, on the last line there is the picture i am talking about.

Now to answer your actual questions:

1. I don't think so, AIA is a very simple airport, and these 500m adds nothing to the complexity of getting to your gate.

2. There is definetely no need for that, at least not for now or the near future.

3. Could be, because to be honest i see no other logical reason, since the undergound connection is more than enough. Also if this is to be constructed as shown on the above "plans" at least 2 jetways would be actually blocked.
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Old September 24th, 2012, 11:28 AM   #64
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A3*/A2/OA | Greece-Based Carriers

News and developments for all Greece based carriers. And definetely some good looking photos of their planes.

The following list includes most of Greek companies that have at least important presence in local market, many smaller airlines are not inlcuded.

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Aegean Airlines was founded as Aegean Aviation in 1987. It was originally a VIP/business air operation specializing in executive and air ambulance services.

On 17 February 1992, it became the first airline to be issued with a Greek independent air operator's license. After it was bought by Vasilakis Group in 1994, Aegean Aviation commenced VIP flights from Athens all over the world with wholly owned Lear jet aircraft.

The Aegean Airlines title was adopted with the start of scheduled passenger services at the end of May 1999. Its first commercial flights were from Athens to Heraklion, Crete and Thessaloniki, Macedonia, with 2 brand new wholly owned BAe 146/RJ100.

During 2000 Aegean bought Air-Greece. After an agreement in March 2001 to merge Aegean and Cronus Airlines, it operated for a while as Aegean Cronus Airlines until full integration. Since 2005, the airline is in partnership with Lufthansa, offering participation to the Miles & More program. And as of June 30 Aegean Airlines has become a full member of the Star Alliance.

Current fleet:
  • 22 Airbus A320
  • 4 Airbus A321
  • 4 Airbus A319




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Formed from the privatisation of the former national carrier Olympic Airlines, and owned by Marfin Investment Group, Olympic Air commenced limited operations on 29 September 2009, after Olympic Airlines ceased all operations, with the official full-scale opening of the company taking place two days later, on 1 October 2009. The airline has its main hub out of Athens International Airport.

The company's privatization cost was in total 177,2 million Euro, while the total investment for the new company reached 1,1 Bln Euro.The new company bought all the registered trademarks of previous state company but not the fleet.Thus the company had to make a new fleet by ordering new aircraft and leasing many.During Le Bourget 2008 Bombardier announced an order for 8+8 Q400 N by Olympic Air for 224 million Dollar.

The official opening of the new Olympic took place on 1st October of 2009 with the flight Athens - Thessaloniki with an Airbus A320 (SX-OAQ). From Thessaloniki the same day president of MIG group announced the reviving of Macedonian Airlines as a charter subsidiary of the Airline.

Unfortunately further plans for the development of the airline were changed by the economical crisis, and the company announced on February 2010 that they have agreed to merge with rival Aegean Airlines, under the brand name of Olympic. The proposed merger didn't occured as planed though, after European Comission did not agreed with a possible monopoly that would be created on the internal market.

The airline currently is operating as a regional airline with a few international destinations, mostly on the Balkans area. The future is currently unknown and a it is possible that the proposed merger might happen sooner or later as the competition inside the greek market is changing with Cyprus airways entering the market.


Current fleet:
  • 4 Airbus A319-100
  • 9 Airbus A320-200
  • 10 Bombardier Dash 8 Q400
  • 5 Bombardier Dash 8-100




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Astra Airlines was founded in 2008 and is based in Thessaloniki airport "Macedonia". Main shareholders of the airline is Ioannis Zlatanis, founder of tour operator "Interviator Ltd" and Anastasios Zirinis, whom was in the past CEO of Greek flag carrier Olympic Airlines.

Current fleet:
  • 2 Airbus A320
  • 2 BAe 146-300





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History :

The airline was incorporated in May 2006 by a team of industry veterans, and currently operates charter flights and aircraft leasing on an ACMI basis.

The airline commenced scheduled operations on 30 May 2009 with the route Birmingham-Athens-Jeddah. The route has since been suspended until further notice, though the airline is looking for more suited aircraft for the route.

Hellenic Imperial Airways launched its new website in April 2010 as a part of their new promotional campaign for the company's new activities. The new website allows customers to book services online, and has live news feeds regarding flights and services.

In early May 2010 Hellenic Imperial announced it is to begin scheduled services to Johannesburg's OR Tambo International Airport beginning on the 8th of June 2010. These flights will fill the gap left by Olympic Airlines when they ceased services to the airport last September.

During the 2011 Libyan civil war Hellenic Imperial Airways operated charter services from Tripoli to Heraklion and from Heraklion directly to Bangkok, Shanghai, Beijing and Hanoi. In total the carrier evacuated 3,000 Chinese citizens from Libya via Greece.

On June 24, 2011, Hellenic Imperial Airways inaugurated its first direct flight HT0411 from Athens to New York JFK operated by Boeing 747-200B as opposed to the planned Airbus A340-300X.

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The airline was established in early 2005 by Cpt. Miltiadis Tsagkarakis, a former Olympic Airlines director-general and pilot as well as George Mavrantonakis, former Chief Operating Officer and Accountable Manager of Olympic Airlines and former Advisor to the President of Olympic Airways. Operations commenced in July 2005, including scheduled, charter and cargo flights, air-taxi, emergency medical services, excursions and sightseeing. Sky Express Aircargo was later established in a joint effort with the Finaval Group, focusing on cargo transport between Europe and the Far East.

current fleet:
  • 4 BAe Jetstream


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Minoan Air is a regional Airline based in Heraklion, Crete, operating under a Hellenic Civil Aviation Authority issued Air Operator Certificate in accordance with the European Aviation Safety Agency Regulations.

Minoan operates 4 Fokker 50 aircraft each having a capacity of 50 seats.

current fleet:
  • 4 Fokker 50


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Sky Wings is a Greek charter airline that was founded in 2004 and started operations in June 2006. Sky Wings was owned by Greek (51%) and Ukrainian interests namely Khors Aircompany (49%).

current fleet:
  • 4 Avro RJ100
  • 2 McDonnell Douglas MD-83
  • 1 Airbus A320-200


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Hermes Airlines


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Hermes Airlines is a Greek charter airline that was founded in 2011. Hermes Airlines is a subsidiary of Air Méditerranée and all of its aircraft were previously flying for them.

current fleet:
  • 3 Airbus A321
  • 1 Airbus A320
  • 2 Boeing 735


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Gainjet Aviation is a Private executive Charter Operator and Management Company with its headquarters based in Athens, Greece, and a sales office based in the United Kingdom.

The company holds a worldwide EU-OPS-1 (AOC).


current fleet:
  • 2 VIP Boeing 737-300
  • 1 VIP Boeing 757-200WW (Winglet equipped)
  • 1 Gulfstream G550
  • 1 Bombardier Global Express XRS
  • 1 Gulfstream G450


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Old September 25th, 2012, 10:54 AM   #74
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Any news on ATH traffic figures? I think ATH is 10% down in terms of traffic numbers.
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It was on 11.8 minus till June, no news yet for the rest of the year. But i guess it will be 10 percent or a bit less.



Cyprus Airways Expands Greek Domestic Market in W12

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Cyprus Airways from 28OCT12 is expanding operations on Greek Domestic market, with the launch of 5 new routes, while increasing service on Athens – Thessaloniki route.

Planned new routes and schedules:

Athens – Irakleion NEW 2 Daily service
CY627 ATH1040 – 1130HER 320 D
CY629 ATH1930 – 2020HER 320 D

CY628 HER0635 – 0725ATH 320 D
CY626 HER1615 – 1705ATH 320 D

Athens – Rhodes NEW 1 Daily service
CY631 ATH1130 – 1230RHO 320 D
CY632 RHO1715 – 1815ATH 320 D

Rhodes – Irakleion NEW 4 weekly service
CY636 RHO1405 – 1455HER 320 x246
CY635 HER1540 – 1630RHO 320 x246

Rhodes – Thessaloniki NEW 3 weekly service
CY638 RHO1315 – 1425SKG 320 246
CY637 SKG1515 – 1630RHO 320 246

Thessaloniki – Irakelion NEW 1 Daily service
CY634 SKG1415 – 1530HER 320 D
CY633 HER1215 – 1330SKG 320 D

Athens – Thessaloniki Increases from 2 to 3 daily
CY620 ATH0800 – 0900SKG 320 D
CY624 ATH1750 – 1850SKG 320 D
CY622 ATH2120 – 2220SKG 320 D

CY623 SKG0615 – 0715ATH 320 D
CY621 SKG0945 – 1045ATH 320 D
CY625 SKG1935 – 2035ATH 320 D
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The first and only time I used the underground pedestrian way between the main terminal and satellite terminal at Eleftherios Venizelos was upon arrival on a Swiss Intl A320 from ZRH during the 2004 Olympic Games. The pedestrian tunnel seemed very nice and spacious. I seem to recall that it did not have the option of a moving walkway. And that the length was close to 500m. Perhaps this is why upon disembarking from the aircraft we were given the option of boarding a shuttle bus for the main terminal.

Yet on my departure 10 days later we boarded a shuttle bus at the main terminal lower departure gates and were shuttled to the Satellite Terminal to and took the staircase up to the gate area before boarding the Swiss Intl A320 through the JetWay (boarding bridge).

My questions are as follows:

1) Were major airlines somehow opposed to their passengers having to walk the distance of the pedestrian "Link" tunnel to the Satellite Terminal?
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Sorry for answering so late, but since no one else bothered i hope you don't mind. To be honest i was trying to find a picture of the undergound connection for quite some time now. I was sure that there is a moving walkway installed, and reading your comments about 2004 i managed to find one picture in airport gallery. The picture even though not zoomed at all it clearly shows its existance. Check this gallery, on the last line there is the picture i am talking about.

Now to answer your actual questions:

1. I don't think so, AIA is a very simple airport, and these 500m adds nothing to the complexity of getting to your gate.
I agree with Pilotos. I haven't had to use the satellite terminal for years, so my memory isn't very fresh either, but I'm pretty sure there is a moving walkway. They can't build a new airport terminal (this was only completed in 2001) and not incorporate a moving walkway for such a spot. Maybe someone who's been recently can shed some light on this.

I'm not sure why an inter-terminal bus would have been available in 2004. Keep in mind that the week before and after the Olympics was an extremely high, record-breaking travel period. Not just for a 14-16ish million ppa airport like ATH, but even LHR broke its own weekly/daily records for the 2012 Olympics. So, maybe extra pax & flights had something to do with it, in conjunction with the whole Schengen/non-Schengen thing going on? (And remember that Switzerland in 2004 wasn't yet Schengen). I too flew from ATH to ZRH right after the Olympics (with Swiss), and I don't remember anything peculiar.

The satellite terminal originally served non-Schengen flights (today, it's Schengen), and the underground walkway originated from the non-Schegen area of the main terminal (today it originates from the general area).

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2) Are any new boarding gates (with JetWays) going to be installed in the Main Terminal - Satellite Terminal bridge?

3) Or is the sole purpose of the above ground Main Terminal - Satellite Terminal bridge to add retail space (shops, restaurants, etc) to get travelers to part with more Euros
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2. There is definetely no need for that, at least not for now or the near future.

3. Could be, because to be honest i see no other logical reason, since the undergound connection is more than enough. Also if this is to be constructed as shown on the above "plans" at least 2 jetways would be actually blocked
Agreed with pilotos that there is no need for that yet. The proposed above-ground connection between the terminals would have added retail/restaurant space, but would have also added (if I remember correctly) 2 gates. But in order to build it, they would have to dismantle one gate/airbridge from the sattelite terminal, which means the net gain in gates would be only one additional gate in an airport with 24 gates (that have airbridges). Which is pointless. When the time arises, IMO, they should just build a brand new terminal. The airport was designed with growth in mind, and there's plenty space set aside for future terminals.

According to the airport's original master plan, the capacity of phase one (the current phase) was 16 million, and the airport slightly surpassed that figure in 2007, 2008, and 2009. Around that same time, the airport announced that the terminals' capacity had been "increased" to 21 million with some minor interior changes that somehow made the terminal operate more efficiently. And then, in 2010 and 2011, pax figures dipped below 16 million. So, for the time being, it looks like additional gates won't be necessary, especially seeing that long-haul flights to destinations like BKK, SIN, EWR, ATL, YVR, JNB are being stopped due to the crisis and the global economy (and YYZ, YUL, JFK all became seasonal). ATH is also losing short-haul passengers to the country's regional airports (HER, CFU, RHO, ZTH, KGS, CHQ, SKG, etc) which grew substantially in recent years due to the rise of LCCs bringing budget European leisure travelers directly to those destinations and bypassing Athens. Athenians themselves are also traveling less. So, all these factors are currently being felt at ATH.

Right now, the national focus is on improving/expanding the regional airports which -at the moment- need more attention than ATH which is still a brand-new airport. Especially RHO, HER, KGS, CFU, and CHQ are all a mess at the moment, and their terminals are operating at way over-capacity.

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Are those airport projects still ongoing given the economic crisis?
Two projects mentioned earlier in this thread: the lengthening of SKG's runways is underway. (The new terminal for the airport is up in the air, and currently not priority). And the new terminal for VOL (Nea Anchialos airport...the pictures of the small red-ish terminal) is complete and open for business. The next project for VOL will be a train station for that airport.

Other projects have stalled. The crisis slowed things down, that's for sure, but things are gradually starting to pick up again, as far as infrastructure projects.

Reason for that is because the state is currently seeking greater private-sector involvement in infrastructure projects. And they're also planning to generally privatise all the airports, UK-style. And there's interest from firms (both foreign and domestic) to participate.

Right now, they're planning a brand new airport for HER, which has surpassed SKG and is now the country's second busiest with about 5 million pax/year. Like ATH, it will be moved to a new site entirely, further from the city (the porposed site is a small town near the city of Heraklion, called Kasteli). This project keeps getting on and off the drawing board. There's legal complications with ATH (whose minority-stake owners, Hochtief, are concerned that a too-large HER may directly compete with ATH, which is bullshit if you ask me). Additionally, the state was asking bidders to submit plans for a rather large HER that no bank wanted to finance, so they're scaling down the project a bit. Personally, I don't see what the problem is, if they just incorporate a master plan with growth phases -similar to ATH- where the airport's capacity would be expanded only as needed.

Recently, there's been strong interest from French company Vinci in buying both Hochtief's share in ATH, as well as being the investor for HER. So, if both airports are the same corporation, there wouldn't be any [bogus] competition fears.

RHO will get some minor improvements, and perhaps a slight addition to its current bizarre labyrinth terminal. IMO, I'd like to see it torn down and re-built anew. But, that's not planned right now.

CHQ and KGS will get entirely new terminals (which they desperately need). Since they're also slated for privatization, the state may require bidders to commit to building new terminals, so we'll see. They keep talking about a new terminal for IOA as well (Ioannina, pictured earlier in this thread). IOA is not a very busy airport...it's figures are small, actually. But, this airport is also slated for privatization, so we'll see where that leads.

No news on CFU yet, unfortunately. This airport desperately needs attention. There was talk some years back of relocating the airport to a site in the southern area of the island. I'm not opposed to a move in principle, but I don't like the proposed site. I don't like the current site either (horrible!). The downside is that this island has very little available space. It's densely populated and very mountainous, and has very little available flat land. And keep in mind that charming countryside/olive-groves/vineyards/ocean-views/etc is part of the tourism appeal of the country, so you don't exactly want to build wherever there's available farmland...especially with the recent rise in niche tourism: tourists that are interested in more than just sun and beach (there's lately been a new class of tourists who are interested in Greek/Mediterranean cuisine/agriculture, local culture, "unspoilt" towns/countryside, etc). There hasn't been any talk about relocating CFU in recent years. Ideally, I'd relocate this island onto a man-made island, offshire, KIX-style. Pipe dream.

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Any news on ATH traffic figures? I think ATH is 10% down in terms of traffic numbers.
Correct, as pilotos mentioned, it's about 11% down for Jan-June 2012, compared to Jan-June 2011. July-Oct are still major travel months, and tourism to the country as a whole dipped in May/June, but rebounded strongly in July-August. Of course, this may not mean much for ATH specifically. We'll have to wait until 2013 to see how 2012 did, but I'd still expect a decrease from 2011.
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Old October 7th, 2012, 11:58 PM   #77
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Any news on ATH traffic figures? I think ATH is 10% down in terms of traffic numbers.
It seems ATH didn't manage to reduce looses. Inlcuding AUG the figures show a negative balance of -11,6, or 8.886.228 instead of 10.053.561 for 2011.

Hopefully though the rest Greek airports, including SKG performed way better. SKG had an 9.45% icncrease in foreign citizens, but not sure how this translates in total numbers.

ATH is loosing passengers not just because of crisis, but as well because of many new direct flights to popular summer destinations, that obviously skip ATH. And definetely as long as they don't reduce their charges i doubt there will be any kind of improvement soon.
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Today Aegean annoucned that they have reached an agreement with MIG (Olympic owner), to buy 100% of Olympic Air. Here news in Greek only for now.

The deal will cost Aegean 72 Mln Euro, not much if to think that MIG paid 200 million to the state only for the brand and London/NY slots. Of course the announcment means nothing, as it needs to be checked by Greek/EU competition comitees. But given the crisis and the small change in Greek market, chances are they might get through this time.
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