How to Speak Persian - Page 21

SoroushPersepolisi · January 9th, 2011, 07:03 AM

i kno i never disagreed with u, lol, i just said write the persian word alongside the common term unless if its already persian

iman08 · January 9th, 2011, 03:03 PM

if I know that the word is actually originated from another language, I'll do that

SoroushPersepolisi · January 9th, 2011, 07:39 PM

urbastar · January 10th, 2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by iman08

You're welcome. "I will pass my exams"= Man dar emtehanaam movafagh khaham bood. (or better) Man dar emtehanaam ghabool khaham shod.
"i will succeed in preparing this meal"= Man dar tahie/dorost kardane in ghaza movafagh khaham bood.
"I am succeeding my life" =Man dar zendegim movafagh hastam.
"I am sure i am going to win this competitions"= Man motmaenan dar in mosabeghaat barande khaham shod!
" I fail to do something/I fail my exams"= like Soroush already said= Man dar emtehanam rad misham. man dar ... shekast khordam. man dar...movafagh nashodam. man dar...va mandam.

To start/continue/end to do(or doing) something = shoroo kardan (aghaaz kardan) / edame dadan / be chizi payan dadan (tamam kardan, khateme dadan, payan yaftan, khatm kardan)

To ask/demand/make/let somebody (to) do something = soal porisdan (when you use it in texts, you leave out 'soal' f. ex. Man az sara porsidam ke ...) / taghaza kardan (khastaar shodan) / sakhtan, anjam dadan, dorost kardan / kari ro be kasy sepordan, ejaze dadan be kasi ke kari ro bokonad

thx a lot

Do "khaham" is used in common parlance? I thought that for future it was the same than for present, for example : ino mikonam : i will do it.
Otherwise, without "khaham" i don't know how to say "i will succeed my exams"

Concerning, "to ask, demand, make, let, start, end, continue etc...", it was more about a sentence like : " I continue to see her", "i ask him to read this book" etc... (I was more interested to see how you can use two words in this kind of sentence)

iman08 · January 10th, 2011, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by urbastar

thx a lot

Do "khaham" is used in common parlance? I thought that for future it was the same than for present, for example : ino mikonam : i will do it.
Otherwise, without "khaham" i don't know how to say "i will succeed my exams"

Concerning, "to ask, demand, make, let, start, end, continue etc...", it was more about a sentence like : " I continue to see her", "i ask him to read this book" etc... (I was more interested to see how you can use two words in this kind of sentence)

You're welcome.

Well, I think you only can use 'khaham' for future. At least nothing else comes to mind now. I think you let khaham out, when you already decided to do it or agreed to do it. f.ex.: Bashe, man in kar ro mikonam. But when you say something you want to do: Man mikhaham in kar ro bokonam.
But I'm not a grammatic expert, so I'm not so sure... .
I continue to see her = Man hamchenan ba ou molaghat mikonam/ Man hamchenan ou ro mibinam.
I ask him to read this book = Man az ou khahesh kardam ke in ketab ro bekhoone (polite)/ Man be ou goftam ke oon ketab ro bekhoone (rather informal and not very polite, more a demand). / Man azash khastam ke oon ketab ro bekhoone.
let her make the work = bezar oon in kar ro bokone
start working! = shoroo be kar kon!
end the discussion! = tamoom kon in bahs ro !
continue your work = be karet edame bede

urbastar · January 11th, 2011, 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iman08

You're welcome.

Well, I think you only can use 'khaham' for future. At least nothing else comes to mind now. I think you let khaham out, when you already decided to do it or agreed to do it. f.ex.: Bashe, man in kar ro mikonam. But when you say something you want to do: Man mikhaham in kar ro bokonam.
But I'm not a grammatic expert, so I'm not so sure... .
I continue to see her = Man hamchenan ba ou molaghat mikonam/ Man hamchenan ou ro mibinam.
I ask him to read this book = Man az ou khahesh kardam ke in ketab ro bekhoone (polite)/ Man be ou goftam ke oon ketab ro bekhoone (rather informal and not very polite, more a demand). / Man azash khastam ke oon ketab ro bekhoone.
let her make the work = bezar oon in kar ro bokone
start working! = shoroo be kar kon!
end the discussion! = tamoom kon in bahs ro !
continue your work = be karet edame bede

Can you say "edame midam uno bebinam" and "khuneh gashtan edame midam" (i continue to search a house)?

However these two forms sound weird.

iman08 · January 12th, 2011, 05:27 PM

i continue to search a house - man be gashtane khaneh edame midam
man be didane oon (film,etc.) edame midam; buy in everyday use you would say (in this case): Man baghy film ro mibinam.

SoroushPersepolisi · January 13th, 2011, 07:20 AM

btw can we change the thread name to just how to speak persian an cut the "farsi" off? in english, our language is known as Persian, not farsi

eg: they dont say "lets learn hellenic", the say Greek

iman08 · January 15th, 2011, 12:06 AM

agree! It would be better.

***Persan*** · January 15th, 2011, 10:10 AM

As do I.

Gzdvtz · January 16th, 2011, 11:46 AM

Can someone tell me if there is an electronic or online dictionary that also gives the present stem of verbs? I have the LingvoSoft Persian <-> English dictionary but it only gives the infinitive which isn't very useful.

Cyrus · January 18th, 2011, 09:12 PM

A word can be a sentence in Persian, for example someone can ask: "Nadidanet?" which means "Did they not see you?" (Na-did-an-et = Not-see-they-you)

iman08 · January 18th, 2011, 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gzdvtz

Can someone tell me if there is an electronic or online dictionary that also gives the present stem of verbs? I have the LingvoSoft Persian <-> English dictionary but it only gives the infinitive which isn't very useful.

I do not know any, but maybe the Google translator could be an alternative, if there isn't anything else... .

SoroushPersepolisi · January 19th, 2011, 01:43 AM

merci ke name threado avaz kardeen

Gzdvtz · February 9th, 2011, 01:45 AM

Does 'manafi' mean anything in particular?

SoroushPersepolisi · February 9th, 2011, 05:23 AM

manafi doesnt mean anything, maybe u mean manfi or manavi

manfi comes from arabic, which means negative

manavi means "spiritual", eg masnavi manavi is rumi's (great persian poet) is his most famous work, which is very spiritual in its content

Gzdvtz · February 9th, 2011, 05:13 PM

Hmm, I'm just wondering about Farshid Manafi's surname, that's all

SoroushPersepolisi · February 9th, 2011, 11:01 PM

oh manafi as in the name, that i dunkno what it means, i think it means "someone that gains"

urbastar · February 10th, 2011, 10:15 PM

How do you say : It is not because you made this, that ......

SoroushPersepolisi · February 11th, 2011, 02:18 AM

rephrase the sentence please, i dun get what want to say lol

January 9th, 2011, 07:03 AM	#401
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January 9th, 2011, 07:39 PM	#403
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January 13th, 2011, 07:20 AM	#408
SoroushPersepolisi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tehran Posts: 9,767 Likes (Received): 382	btw can we change the thread name to just how to speak persian an cut the "farsi" off? in english, our language is known as Persian, not farsi eg: they dont say "lets learn hellenic", the say Greek __________________ See TEHRAN, The Capital of IRAN

January 15th, 2011, 10:10 AM	#410
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January 16th, 2011, 11:46 AM	#411
Gzdvtz Whatevah Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ☭υρώπη Posts: 4,672	Can someone tell me if there is an electronic or online dictionary that also gives the present stem of verbs? I have the LingvoSoft Persian <-> English dictionary but it only gives the infinitive which isn't very useful. __________________ You can put a bullet through my head, but you can’t kill the word I said. Don’t pray in my school and I won’t think in your temple.

January 9th, 2011, 03:03 PM	#402
iman08 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 542 Likes (Received): 0	if I know that the word is actually originated from another language, I'll do that

January 12th, 2011, 05:27 PM	#407
iman08 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 542 Likes (Received): 0	i continue to search a house - man be gashtane khaneh edame midam man be didane oon (film,etc.) edame midam; buy in everyday use you would say (in this case): Man baghy film ro mibinam.

January 15th, 2011, 12:06 AM	#409
iman08 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 542 Likes (Received): 0	agree! It would be better.

January 18th, 2011, 09:12 PM	#412
Cyrus Persian King of Kings Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 1,255 Likes (Received): 92	A word can be a sentence in Persian, for example someone can ask: "Nadidanet?" which means "Did they not see you?" (Na-did-an-et = Not-see-they-you) __________________ Zarathustra: Good Thoughts, Good Words and Good Deeds All Empires For History Lovers! Founder and Administrator

January 19th, 2011, 01:43 AM	#414
SoroushPersepolisi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tehran Posts: 9,767 Likes (Received): 382	merci ke name threado avaz kardeen __________________ See TEHRAN, The Capital of IRAN

February 9th, 2011, 01:45 AM	#415
Gzdvtz Whatevah Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ☭υρώπη Posts: 4,672	Does 'manafi' mean anything in particular? __________________ You can put a bullet through my head, but you can’t kill the word I said. Don’t pray in my school and I won’t think in your temple.

February 9th, 2011, 05:23 AM	#416
SoroushPersepolisi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tehran Posts: 9,767 Likes (Received): 382	manafi doesnt mean anything, maybe u mean manfi or manavi manfi comes from arabic, which means negative manavi means "spiritual", eg masnavi manavi is rumi's (great persian poet) is his most famous work, which is very spiritual in its content __________________ See TEHRAN, The Capital of IRAN

February 9th, 2011, 05:13 PM	#417
Gzdvtz Whatevah Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: ☭υρώπη Posts: 4,672	Hmm, I'm just wondering about Farshid Manafi's surname, that's all __________________ You can put a bullet through my head, but you can’t kill the word I said. Don’t pray in my school and I won’t think in your temple.

February 9th, 2011, 11:01 PM	#418
SoroushPersepolisi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tehran Posts: 9,767 Likes (Received): 382	oh manafi as in the name, that i dunkno what it means, i think it means "someone that gains" __________________ See TEHRAN, The Capital of IRAN

February 10th, 2011, 10:15 PM	#419
urbastar Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 386 Likes (Received): 12	How do you say : It is not because you made this, that ......

February 11th, 2011, 02:18 AM	#420
SoroushPersepolisi Registered User Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Tehran Posts: 9,767 Likes (Received): 382	rephrase the sentence please, i dun get what want to say lol __________________ See TEHRAN, The Capital of IRAN

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