How to Speak Persian - Page 3

sam_18 · March 27th, 2009, 12:07 PM

thanks for Persian courses i learned a lot

arashmordad · March 27th, 2009, 05:16 PM

@ Yapachoo and sam_18, "khahesh mikonæm" = you're welcome

arashmordad · March 27th, 2009, 05:40 PM

To be doing:

Now you have learned "to do" (kærdæn) and "to have" (dashtæn):
e.g.
"mæn shena mikonæm" [I swim] or "mæn minevisæm" [I write] (mi-nevis-æm, from "neveshtæn" to write)

"mæn sib daræm" [I have a apple] or "mæn nahar daræm" [I have lunch]

Now, how do you say "I am doing." Well we now know that "to have" comes after a noun. To say "I am doing" you have to combine both "dashtæn" and "kardæn" togethor in the format: "mæn daræm mikonæm" I am doing.
Whenever "dashtæn" comes after a noun, it means "to have," yet when it comes before a noun and /or verb, it means "am [doing]."

take "mæn shena mikonæm" (I swim) and add the verb "dashtæn" to it and it will make: "mæn daræm shena mikonæm" I AM swimming.

mæn minevisæm [I write] >> mæn daræm minevisæm [I am writing]
mæn mikhoræm [I eat] >> mæn daræm mikhoræm [I am eating]
mæn bazi mikonæm [I play] >> mæn daræm bazi mikonæm [I am playing]
mæn ketab mikhunæm [I read a book] >> mæn daræm ketab mikhunæm [I am reading a book]
mæn ru tækht mikhabæm [I sleep on a bed] >> mæn daræm ru tækht mikhabam [I am sleeping on a/the bed]
to mikoni [you do] >> to dari mikoni [you are doing]
an mikone/æd [it does] >> an dare mikone/æd [it is doing]

Yapachoo · March 31st, 2009, 02:03 AM

hi arashmordad, i hope you don't mind helping me with another question! How would you best explain morade chizi qarar gereftan? As two examples I have:

مورد حمله قرار گرفتن
(morade hamleh gharar gereftan) >>> To be in a position to be attacked (?)
مورد توجه قرار گرفتن
(morade tavajjoh gharar gereftan) >>> To be/take the centre of attention

How else can I use this construction? I don't fully understand how to use it in different situations? I only use the compound gharar gereftan for saying where places are situated, how does morade chizi gharar gereftan change that?

I hope that makes sense! and thanks again in advance!

arashmordad · April 1st, 2009, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yapachoo

hi arashmordad, i hope you don't mind helping me with another question! How would you best explain morade chizi qarar gereftan? As two examples I have:

مورد حمله قرار گرفتن
(morade hamleh gharar gereftan) >>> To be in a position to be attacked (?)
مورد توجه قرار گرفتن
(morade tavajjoh gharar gereftan) >>> To be/take the centre of attention

How else can I use this construction? I don't fully understand how to use it in different situations? I only use the compound gharar gereftan for saying where places are situated, how does morade chizi gharar gereftan change that?

I hope that makes sense! and thanks again in advance!

Hmmm, I'm thinking how to explain it to you, but I myself find it to hard to explain. They both are correct. I myself haven't used it that much. I do not think I am the best person for this question. Sorry

. Like i said, I am not a professional.
But, i should say its pronounced "mored," not "moræd."

Anyone else here who can explain it better?

Faratel · April 4th, 2009, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yapachoo

hi arashmordad, i hope you don't mind helping me with another question! How would you best explain morade chizi qarar gereftan? As two examples I have:

مورد حمله قرار گرفتن
(morade hamleh gharar gereftan) >>> To be in a position to be attacked (?)
مورد توجه قرار گرفتن
(morade tavajjoh gharar gereftan) >>> To be/take the centre of attention

How else can I use this construction? I don't fully understand how to use it in different situations? I only use the compound gharar gereftan for saying where places are situated, how does morade chizi gharar gereftan change that?

I hope that makes sense! and thanks again in advance!

salam = hello

sorry for my bad english

u pointed to 2 different things

there are some differences between

مورد ... قرار گرفتن = morede ... gharar gereftan

and

در معرض ... بودن = dar ma'raze ... boodan

first 1 means the thing is happening but the second 1 means in position

morede hamleh gharar gereftan = to be attacked (in time)
dar ma'raze hamle boodan (gharar gereftan) = To be in a position that may be attacked

morade tavajjoh gharar gereftan = To be the centre of attention (like a hollywood star, or breaking news)
dar ma'raze tavajjoh gharar gereftan = To be in a position that may take attention (like being in a TV review, or regular news) - (one may take attention or not)

some examples:

anha diruz morede hamle gharar gereftand = they were attacked yesterday
anha diruz dar ma'raze hamle boodand = they were (in a position) that might be attacked yesterday

alitezar · April 4th, 2009, 08:54 PM

I don't know it really well gramatically but this is how I'd say these pharses in persian

they were attacked yesterday= Be anha dirooz hamleh shod
they were (in a position) that might be attacked yesterday= Momken bood ke dirooz be anha hamleh shavad

I hope this helps

PersianPrincess09 · April 5th, 2009, 03:16 AM

LOOOL
so confusing!
man lol all i know is when i wear something revealing,my mom willl be yelling on my ass,she even says "hookkieer" with an accent haha,and when shes really mad,i tell her shes my setareh and run upstairs.

alitezar · April 5th, 2009, 04:11 AM

haha good one

Persiancat · April 5th, 2009, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianPrincess09

LOOOL
so confusing!
man lol all i know is when i wear something revealing,my mom willl be yelling on my ass,she even says "hookkieer" with an accent haha,and when shes really mad,i tell her shes my setareh and run upstairs.

what's a "hookkieer"?

PersianPrincess09 · April 5th, 2009, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Persiancat

what's a "hookkieer"?

"Hooker"

arashmordad · April 6th, 2009, 09:27 PM

To become "shodæn," To go "ræftæn"

Now it is time to learn how to say "to become" and "to go," as these will become very important in the future. I should note, that in some instances with verbs shodæn and ræftæn are used instead of kærdæn.

shodæn
mæn mishævæm - I become
to mishævi - you become
shoma mishævid - you become (formal)
an mishævæd - that becomes
etc.

ræftæn
mæn mirævæm - I go
to mirævi - you go
shoma mirævid - you go (formal)
an mirævæd - that goes
etc.

Instances where Shodæn/ Ræftæn are used instead of Kærdæn:

rah ræftæn - to walk
mæn rah mirævæm - I walk
to rah mirævi - you walk
etc.

bidar shodæn - to awaken (lit. to become awake)
mæn bidar mishævæm - I wake up
to bidar mishævi - you wake up
etc.

NowRouz · April 7th, 2009, 02:35 AM

NowRouz shad o pirouz

alitezar · April 7th, 2009, 02:42 AM

Merci Nowrouz, khosh oomadi

Khoshal mishim ke tooye forume Iran post koni...

NowRouz · April 7th, 2009, 03:17 AM

alitezar jan
Thank you, I've visited this forum many times, but only just became a member. I'll do my best to participate in a positive way.

alitezar · April 7th, 2009, 03:44 AM

very cool. I'm glad you finally joined

shugs · April 7th, 2009, 04:13 PM

Khosh amadi NowRuz

Persiancat · April 7th, 2009, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersianPrincess09

"Hooker"

LOL

arashmordad · April 7th, 2009, 05:08 PM

Welcome Nowruz, Khosh amædi. Noruze shoma hæm piruz bashæd.

arashmordad · April 7th, 2009, 05:12 PM

"khastæn" - to want

mæn mikhahæm - I want
to mikhahi - you want
shoma mikhahid - you want (formal)
an mikhahæd - that wants
ma mikhahim - we want
etc.

March 27th, 2009, 05:16 PM	#42
arashmordad Thread Saver Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 556 Likes (Received): 3	@ Yapachoo and sam_18, "khahesh mikonæm" = you're welcome __________________ "It's never too late to have a happy childhood, and age only matters if you're a cheese." - Rick Steves Iranian Guys & Girls Learn Persian (Farsi) Iran..WOW

March 27th, 2009, 05:40 PM	#43
arashmordad Thread Saver Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 556 Likes (Received): 3	To be doing: Now you have learned "to do" (kærdæn) and "to have" (dashtæn): e.g. "mæn shena mikonæm" [I swim] or "mæn minevisæm" [I write] (mi-nevis-æm, from "neveshtæn" to write) "mæn sib daræm" [I have a apple] or "mæn nahar daræm" [I have lunch] Now, how do you say "I am doing." Well we now know that "to have" comes after a noun. To say "I am doing" you have to combine both "dashtæn" and "kardæn" togethor in the format: "mæn daræm mikonæm" I am doing. Whenever "dashtæn" comes after a noun, it means "to have," yet when it comes before a noun and /or verb, it means "am [doing]." take "mæn shena mikonæm" (I swim) and add the verb "dashtæn" to it and it will make: "mæn daræm shena mikonæm" I AM swimming. mæn minevisæm [I write] >> mæn daræm minevisæm [I am writing] mæn mikhoræm [I eat] >> mæn daræm mikhoræm [I am eating] mæn bazi mikonæm [I play] >> mæn daræm bazi mikonæm [I am playing] mæn ketab mikhunæm [I read a book] >> mæn daræm ketab mikhunæm [I am reading a book] mæn ru tækht mikhabæm [I sleep on a bed] >> mæn daræm ru tækht mikhabam [I am sleeping on a/the bed] to mikoni [you do] >> to dari mikoni [you are doing] an mikone/æd [it does] >> an dare mikone/æd [it is doing] __________________ "It's never too late to have a happy childhood, and age only matters if you're a cheese." - Rick Steves Iranian Guys & Girls Learn Persian (Farsi) Iran..WOW Last edited by arashmordad; March 28th, 2009 at 06:34 AM.

April 4th, 2009, 08:54 PM	#47
alitezar A Persian Delight Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,749 Likes (Received): 103	I don't know it really well gramatically but this is how I'd say these pharses in persian they were attacked yesterday= Be anha dirooz hamleh shod they were (in a position) that might be attacked yesterday= Momken bood ke dirooz be anha hamleh shavad I hope this helps __________________ TEHRAN/IRAN PICTURES Never Judge People of a Country By Their Government

April 5th, 2009, 04:11 AM	#49
alitezar A Persian Delight Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,749 Likes (Received): 103	haha good one __________________ TEHRAN/IRAN PICTURES Never Judge People of a Country By Their Government

April 6th, 2009, 09:27 PM	#52
arashmordad Thread Saver Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 556 Likes (Received): 3	To become "shodæn," To go "ræftæn" Now it is time to learn how to say "to become" and "to go," as these will become very important in the future. I should note, that in some instances with verbs shodæn and ræftæn are used instead of kærdæn. shodæn mæn mishævæm - I become to mishævi - you become shoma mishævid - you become (formal) an mishævæd - that becomes etc. ræftæn mæn mirævæm - I go to mirævi - you go shoma mirævid - you go (formal) an mirævæd - that goes etc. Instances where Shodæn/ Ræftæn are used instead of Kærdæn: rah ræftæn - to walk mæn rah mirævæm - I walk to rah mirævi - you walk etc. bidar shodæn - to awaken (lit. to become awake) mæn bidar mishævæm - I wake up to bidar mishævi - you wake up etc. __________________ "It's never too late to have a happy childhood, and age only matters if you're a cheese." - Rick Steves Iranian Guys & Girls Learn Persian (Farsi) Iran..WOW Last edited by arashmordad; April 7th, 2009 at 04:09 AM.

March 27th, 2009, 12:07 PM	#41
sam_18 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,391 Likes (Received): 0	thanks for Persian courses i learned a lot

March 31st, 2009, 02:03 AM	#44
Yapachoo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Liverpool Posts: 341 Likes (Received): 0	hi arashmordad, i hope you don't mind helping me with another question! How would you best explain morade chizi qarar gereftan? As two examples I have: مورد حمله قرار گرفتن (morade hamleh gharar gereftan) >>> To be in a position to be attacked (?) مورد توجه قرار گرفتن (morade tavajjoh gharar gereftan) >>> To be/take the centre of attention How else can I use this construction? I don't fully understand how to use it in different situations? I only use the compound gharar gereftan for saying where places are situated, how does morade chizi gharar gereftan change that? I hope that makes sense! and thanks again in advance!

April 5th, 2009, 03:16 AM	#48
PersianPrincess09 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Toronto,Iran Posts: 14 Likes (Received): 0	LOOOL so confusing! man lol all i know is when i wear something revealing,my mom willl be yelling on my ass,she even says "hookkieer" with an accent haha,and when shes really mad,i tell her shes my setareh and run upstairs.

April 7th, 2009, 02:35 AM	#53
NowRouz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2 Likes (Received): 0	NowRouz shad o pirouz

April 7th, 2009, 02:42 AM	#54
alitezar A Persian Delight Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,749 Likes (Received): 103	Merci Nowrouz, khosh oomadi Khoshal mishim ke tooye forume Iran post koni... __________________ TEHRAN/IRAN PICTURES Never Judge People of a Country By Their Government

April 7th, 2009, 03:17 AM	#55
NowRouz Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2 Likes (Received): 0	alitezar jan Thank you, I've visited this forum many times, but only just became a member. I'll do my best to participate in a positive way.

April 7th, 2009, 03:44 AM	#56
alitezar A Persian Delight Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,749 Likes (Received): 103	very cool. I'm glad you finally joined __________________ TEHRAN/IRAN PICTURES Never Judge People of a Country By Their Government

April 7th, 2009, 04:13 PM	#57
shugs Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: GU1 Posts: 3,595 Likes (Received): 9	Khosh amadi NowRuz __________________ SSC Iran

April 7th, 2009, 05:08 PM	#59
arashmordad Thread Saver Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 556 Likes (Received): 3	Welcome Nowruz, Khosh amædi. Noruze shoma hæm piruz bashæd. __________________ "It's never too late to have a happy childhood, and age only matters if you're a cheese." - Rick Steves Iranian Guys & Girls Learn Persian (Farsi) Iran..WOW

April 7th, 2009, 05:12 PM	#60
arashmordad Thread Saver Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 556 Likes (Received): 3	"khastæn" - to want mæn mikhahæm - I want to mikhahi - you want shoma mikhahid - you want (formal) an mikhahæd - that wants ma mikhahim - we want etc. __________________ "It's never too late to have a happy childhood, and age only matters if you're a cheese." - Rick Steves Iranian Guys & Girls Learn Persian (Farsi) Iran..WOW

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