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Old March 10th, 2010, 02:00 PM   #121
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they are starting a professional rugby league competition this year called NRLUS
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Old March 10th, 2010, 02:24 PM   #122
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There's also a weird proposal to run a new "rugby league" competition on American football pitches, using the existing markings and teams of 11. It doesn't have official recognition, unsurprisingly!

http://www.gridironrugby.com/
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Old March 10th, 2010, 03:30 PM   #123
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There's also a weird proposal to run a new "rugby league" competition on American football pitches, using the existing markings and teams of 11. It doesn't have official recognition, unsurprisingly!

http://www.gridironrugby.com/
Both those proposals emulates from the AMRL and its passionate president David Niu. Unfortunatly, We are far from being there yet. Believe me, I have been trying to develop a rugby league club in Texas for six years now.
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Old March 10th, 2010, 04:27 PM   #124
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The "Six" in their "gardens" :



Paris (81K+):



London (82K+):



Cardiff (75K+):



Edinburgh (67K+):



Dublin (82K+):



Rome (32K):



Miscellaneous:



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Old March 10th, 2010, 04:55 PM   #125
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Those are not gardens , they are theaters of dreams. Do you have pictures of the old stadiums like Colombe in the 60s, The Arms Park, london and Murrayfield before redevelopment ? Another question for you do you remember the name of that French commentator who used to call the French players " petits " . I remember he used to say " allez les petits" and also " un coup de pied de Mammouth " . I believe he died in the spring of 84...
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Old March 10th, 2010, 06:10 PM   #126
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The name you're looking for is Roger Couderc.

BTW nice experience you've shared with us.
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Old March 10th, 2010, 06:40 PM   #127
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they are starting a professional rugby league competition this year called NRLUS
That was the word about a year ago, but there's been no new info since. Doesn't look good.
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Old March 10th, 2010, 06:55 PM   #128
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The name you're looking for is Roger Couderc.

BTW nice experience you've shared with us.
ah Roger couderc, he is the voice of the 5 nations . I will never forget him. Here I am so far away in time and distance and when I watch the 6 nations on TV I think of him and wish he was commenting every game. I am sure he is watching them right know and will be saying " allez les petits " as the French might win the grand chelem. I hope they win it with a coup de pied de mammouth.... If the French Federation build a stadium in Paris they should name it stade Roger Couderc...
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Old March 10th, 2010, 08:21 PM   #129
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http://www.wat.tv/video/roger-couderc-dprr_co6o_.html

Here you are guys, the voice of the 5 nations tournament. Mr Roger couderc
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Old March 11th, 2010, 12:34 PM   #130
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I’d be more inclined to think the USA would have held on to an amateur game for as long as possible just like the rest of the rugby world (although the game would have certainly gone professional a good 30 years earlier). The northern unions breaking away from the RFU (like in Australia and NZ) was created by players power demanding that they should be paid to play the game at a very high level; player power that is rarely seen in the USA due to the power and influence of the team owners. Given the option of making up some bullshit about ‘the ideals of the amateur game’ or spending large amounts on player’s wages what would you do? More importantly what do you think the Charles Comiskey's of the world would do?
Besides the USA has been able to hold onto amateurism in other sports at a college level so it’s not impossible they could stick to it in other areas, when the country experienced its heyday in Rugby it was largely done so through the Colleges.

Is the Italian national team ever going to consider playing their games in somewhere slightly better?
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Old March 11th, 2010, 01:12 PM   #131
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The Italians have played against NZ in San Siro (80,000). But Italy is the least rugby-centric of all those nations. Whether they would get 80,000 at San Siro, or Stadio Olimpico in Rome against European teams is another question.

Maybe someone else would like to shed some light on this.
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The Italians have played against NZ in San Siro (80,000). But Italy is the least rugby-centric of all those nations. Whether they would get 80,000 at San Siro, or Stadio Olimpico in Rome against European teams is another question.

Maybe someone else would like to shed some light on this.
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Old March 11th, 2010, 03:18 PM   #133
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The Italians have played against NZ in San Siro (80,000). But Italy is the least rugby-centric of all those nations. Whether they would get 80,000 at San Siro, or Stadio Olimpico in Rome against European teams is another question.
I reckon they would against England - thousands more fans would happily make the trip to Rome or Milan if more tickets were available, and the home fans always seem to pack Flaminio to the rafters...
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Old March 11th, 2010, 05:47 PM   #134
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I reckon they would against England - thousands more fans would happily make the trip to Rome or Milan if more tickets were available, and the home fans always seem to pack Flaminio to the rafters...
and france! as they absolutely hate each other! also id say they could fill it with scotland because they are always close..and i suppose ireland as the are current champs..we also travel well too
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Old March 12th, 2010, 12:28 AM   #135
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Numbers I'd just found....

The Six Nations Championship has the largest average attendance (per game in history) of International competitions :



(sorry, didn't find any English version)

Translation of Competitions' names :

1 Six Nations (rugby union)
2 FIFA WC
3 Tri-Nations (rugby union)
4 IRB WC (rugby union)
5 UEFA Euro
6 Tri-Nations (rugby league)
7 FIFA women's WC
8 MLB world baseball classic
9 ICC WC (cricket)
10 UEFA women's Euro
I don't know who made this ranking, but it does not show all of the competitions in history. Why is the FIFA World Cup'94 held in the USA left out?? It was the WC with the highest attendance ever recorded. 3,587,538 spectators in total, with an average of 68,991 per match.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Cup_1994

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Old March 12th, 2010, 10:43 AM   #136
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I don't know who made this ranking, but it does not show all of the competitions in history. Why is the FIFA World Cup'94 held in the USA left out?? It was the WC with the highest attendance ever recorded. 3,587,538 spectators in total, with an average of 68,991 per match.
I know, that's why I wrote/added "in history" which means the average of all editions (or at least the last decades).

Here is another list which seems much complete:



WC '94 had the best average with 69K, but the overall average attendance of all world cups is much below this number. On the other hand, the Six-Nations which is annual, has an average attendance above 60-65K since decades (including the former Five-Nations Tournament with the terraces in the 5 stadiums)

London, Twickenham (best attendance 75,500):



Cardiff, Arms Park (best attendance 65,000):



Edinburgh, Murrayfield (best attendance 104,000):



Dublin, Lansdowne Road (best attendance 53,500):



Paris, Colombes (best attendance in Five-Nations 63,145)
& the All-seater Parc des Princes from 1972 to 1997 (best attendance in Five-Nations 50,370):


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Thank you for these beautiful pictures. The Arms Parks was the greatest rugby stadium in the world. What a team Wales was in the 70s with JPR Williams and Gareth Davies and that immortal game of 73 between the All Blacks and The Barbarians. Le Parc des Princes ( For me Jean Pierre Rive's Home just simply become again a temple of Rugby and PSG shall be kicked out and Le Stade Francais should make it its home). Murrayfield, well my best memory was 1984 and the Australian win 37 to 12 to Scotland to complete their grand slam.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 07:29 PM   #138
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It's stupid to compare a neutral-site world cup to the 6N, which has teams playing at home.
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No problem: The Six-Nations has also a higher average attendance than any domestic league (where every teams always play at home) !

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I know, that's why I wrote/added "in history" which means the average of all editions (or at least the last decades).

Here is another list which seems much complete:

How is this more complete? Where did the 2006 football World Cup disappear in this list? Where is the 2002 World Cup, which had also over 2 mil. spectators? I like rugby very much, but if you are trying to convince somebody here, that it's the most popular sport in the world, it won't work. We all know that football competitions (both club and international) are number one in every statistics (more viewers world-wide, more spectators, more professional clubs, more competitions, more money invested, etc.) .
And like "krudmonk" said, you cannot compare the six-nations cup with a football world cup, because in the six-nations there is always a home-team to fill up the stadium. And even so just to bring you an example, in the '94 world cup, the game between Saudi Arabia and Morocco had an attendance of 76.000, even though two not so important football-nations played on a neutral stadium. (there are lots of other such examples: WC'98 Romania-Tunisia 77.000, etc.etc.)
No offense, the Six-Nations Cup is a great competition, don't get me wrong. These are just statistics i was talking about.
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