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Old September 22nd, 2010, 05:50 PM   #161
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ya i think the irfu have already put in a masterplan on the stadium to increase the capacity in a few years time to complete the stadium ( in my openion if this is actually true it just shows how badly the stadium was planned)
Unfortunately that's a 100% non-starter. The orignal idea was to flip the pitch 90 degrees and move it up to take in the space behind the old east stand. The numbers being thrown around were anywhere from 60 - 75k in terms of capacity but it was shot down out of hand for a number of reasons. Off the top of my head some of which were:
  • the argument against this was that access routes could not handle the extra footfall
  • surrounding houses and residents would be directly affected by the greater capacity
  • surrounding houses would be negatively affected
by shadows etc

The council also had an issue with the rotation of the pitch which meant the new stadium, essentially had to be built within the same footprint as the old one. What you see today is the best job the designers could do given the stipulations put in place by the council planners.

I'll try and dig out the articles if I can find them
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Old November 30th, 2010, 01:40 PM   #162
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Murrayfield

Why is it always the shit photos of Murrayfield that get shown on these forums, voila, best angles of our wonderful national rugby stadium







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Old November 30th, 2010, 02:37 PM   #163
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With the room created by the 100m track to the width and the Traditional Rugby Union ingoal areas to the length. They really could re-orientate and sink the Murrayfield pitch around 2m and add a couple more rows or seating making a tighter field which would be more friendly to the fans and the likes of Soccer. Obviously it would also give a higher capacity.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 03:13 PM   #164
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With the room created by the 100m track to the width and the Traditional Rugby Union ingoal areas to the length. They really could re-orientate and sink the Murrayfield pitch around 2m and add a couple more rows or seating making a tighter field which would be more friendly to the fans and the likes of Soccer. Obviously it would also give a higher capacity.
I used to think that Murrayfield could be improved by taking out the running track and continuing the lower West Stand around the other three sides, and the upper North/West/South Stand around to the East, and in fact often wondered if there was a masterplan to do so, but on closer examination I don't think the ends were designed with this in mind...
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Old November 30th, 2010, 03:17 PM   #165
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to be hinest the next thing they should do to it is demolish it (and Hampden), sell the land and move to a new national stadium in the shadow of Stirling Castle.

Football and Rugby should be played there and it should be a truly national stadium the same way MillStad is!

It would be totally neutral, sit in the middel of the country and be equally accessible from Glasgow, Edinburgh, Dundee, Aberdeen, Inverness. The sale of Murrayfield could fund new stadia for the Glasgow and Edinburgh franchises, and pave the way for a joint big for Euro championships with Wales.

Scotland would have 2 stadia in Glasgow, 1 in Edinburgh (at this stage probably Hibs ground as it is the better of the two) 1 in Stirling and 1 in Aberdeen.

That is 5 venues, Wales would only need to provide three venues, two at a push as Dundee could feasibly host some games in a new all Dundee stadium, that is temporarily expanded for the Euros
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Old November 30th, 2010, 03:19 PM   #166
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I used to think that Murrayfield could be improved by taking out the running track and continuing the lower West Stand around the other three sides, and the upper North/West/South Stand around to the East, and in fact often wondered if there was a masterplan to do so, but on closer examination I don't think the ends were designed with this in mind...
And indeed, a photo you've just posted in another thread helps illustrate my point:



As far as I can tell from internal pictures, the North Stand (in the centre of this picture) is centrally aligned with the pitch. Had it been built about ten metres or so off-centre, they could remove the track and build a mirror image of the East Stand on the west side.
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Old November 30th, 2010, 03:20 PM   #167
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to be hinest the next thing they should do to it is demolish it (and Hampden), sell the land and move to a new national stadium in the shadow of Stirling Castle.

Football and Rugby should be played there and it should be a truly national stadium the same way MillStad is!

It would be totally neutral, sit in the middel of the country and be equally accessible from Glasgow, Edinburgh, Dundee, Aberdeen, Inverness.
What are the pubs like in Stirling?
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Old November 30th, 2010, 03:24 PM   #168
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Fine, it is not a massive town but big enough to host a party ;-)

and a bloody good one given half the chance
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Old November 30th, 2010, 03:27 PM   #169
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For some reason the best of all of the pictures has not come out, I will try again and if it doesn't post the url to it, so you can see what I mean.

This is a vastly underrated stadium



DOH!

http://image05.webshots.com/5/6/0/17...7ShSwMX_fs.jpg
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Old November 30th, 2010, 10:45 PM   #170
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Just a bit of lateral thinking just for fun- imagine all six nations venues are suddenly vapourized!
The point being what venues would you choose instead of these, dont go for easy option like next biggest capacity etc-think about the whole rugby ethos, corporate hospitality, space around ground, clash with football fixtures etc

heres my six

TWICKENHAM............WEMBLEY
STADE DE FRANCE......MARSEILLE
MURRAYFIELD....IBROX
MILLENNIUM.....SWANSEA
ROME....SAN SIRO
DUBLIN AVIVA....CROKE
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Old November 30th, 2010, 11:06 PM   #171
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Just a bit of lateral thinking just for fun- imagine all six nations venues are suddenly vapourized!
The point being what venues would you choose instead of these, dont go for easy option like next biggest capacity etc-think about the whole rugby ethos, corporate hospitality, space around ground, clash with football fixtures etc

heres my six

TWICKENHAM............WEMBLEY
STADE DE FRANCE......PARC des PRINCES
MURRAYFIELD....IBROX
MILLENNIUM.....SWANSEA
ROME....SAN SIRO
DUBLIN AVIVA....CROKE
Corrected for you
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Old December 1st, 2010, 11:31 AM   #172
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Aren't PSG determined to make Parc des Princes unfit for rugby by shortening the pitch when they redevelop it?
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Old December 1st, 2010, 01:53 PM   #173
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Well, today we don't know how exactly it will be redeveloped, but I think there will still remain enough space for a rugby pitch, even if they bring the lower tiers closer :

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I was just going by comments in the Parc des Princes thread.

If the FFR aren't going to renew their agreement with Stade de France after 2013, and aren't going to play in their new ground until 2017, where are they going to play Six Nations games from 2014 to 2016?
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Old December 1st, 2010, 10:31 PM   #175
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why murrayfield has a track field?
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Old December 3rd, 2010, 11:08 PM   #176
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They shouldn't demolish Murrayfield, it's the best stadium in Scotland.

Hampden on the other hand is a hole.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 11:43 AM   #177
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Not massive news but it is something that makes a big difference to my enjoyment of going to watch games at the millennium stadium is the fact that it's gone HD this year, one of only a couple in UK.

The big screens now fill the entire screen box so are about 50% larger than they were before, there are also countless HD flats around the ground and they have a new sound system all to the tune of £2.5 million.
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Old December 22nd, 2010, 02:39 PM   #178
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If the FFR aren't going to renew their agreement with Stade de France after 2013, and aren't going to play in their new ground until 2017, where are they going to play Six Nations games from 2014 to 2016?
IMO, they'll still play them at the SdF, but the FFR will rent it game by game.......(just a guess..)
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And here we go again... Six Nations 2011 !




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Venues:

Dublin, Ireland
Aviva Stadium
aka Lansdowne Road
51,700 seats (I miss Croke Park...)







Edinburgh, Scotland
Murrayfield
67,100 seats







Cardiff, Wales
Millennium Stadium
74,500 seats







London, England
Twickenham Stadium
82,000 seats







Paris, France
Stade de France
81,300 seats







Roma, Italia
Stadio Flaminio
32,000 seats
(or more ??)


(outdated photo..I know !)


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Old February 9th, 2011, 09:09 AM   #180
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stadium is beautifill
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