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Old January 16th, 2012, 04:27 PM   #681
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Hopefully, the flocking-in of international carriers (not too long ago, Germanwinsg was the only one) at VKO will finally lead to a 30 mins frequency on the Aeroexpress to Kievskiy Vokzal.
I hope so too.
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Old January 17th, 2012, 11:46 PM   #682
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DME is deadly overcrowded at all. You can spend hours in queries there. They always use one baggage track for several flights at once, so you just can't step close to it: there is a big crowd around. And there is a total transportation chaos on the square in front of the terminal. It looks like the scenes from Gone With The Wind when people leaved town. In addition, DME is the only airport in Moscow that has railway station in the open air (cold in winter!). And it's the most distant airport from Moscow center.

Sometime ago DME was the most modern and the largest airport with the most effective management and highest service in Moscow. But its reconstruction and extension is going to be endless. Now it's single terminal just can't service all passengers. And it's not the most modern anymore: there are terminal 'A' in VKO and several new terminals in SVO.
But isn't that DME has more prospects for expansion in the future? They have plans to build few terminals, and they also have almost unlimited space for extra runways, while SVO is fully surrounded. VKO has also a few possibilities, but anyway, it would take a few years till they get at the same occupation level of DME at the moment.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 01:23 AM   #683
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But isn't that DME has more prospects for expansion in the future? They have plans to build few terminals, and they also have almost unlimited space for extra runways, while SVO is fully surrounded. VKO has also a few possibilities, but anyway, it would take a few years till they get at the same occupation level of DME at the moment.
They have enough land reserved for 8 runways.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 01:43 AM   #684
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Can DME accommodate A380? SVO? I think VKO cant.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 01:59 AM   #685
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Can DME accommodate A380? SVO? I think VKO cant.
DME can and is certified to do so. They will have a few dedicated gates built for A380 in new terminals.

SVO, VKO can not due to a lot of reasons.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 02:16 AM   #686
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VKO from what I have seen look to small to accomodate B747 let alone A380.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 02:20 AM   #687
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VKO from what I have seen look to small to accomodate B747 let alone A380.
It can handle 747. It handles IL-96. Air Force 1 always flies into Vnukovo as it is "Government" base.
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Old January 18th, 2012, 05:07 PM   #688
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@ borza: of course DME has the best long-term prospects. Nevertheless, after being the first Moscow airport to offer both a quick railway connection and a state-of-the-art-Terminal, the airport couldn't cope with the fast growth and to be honest, I am asking myself why East Line needs more than five years for the refitting and expansion of the main Terminal. Right now, SVO (at least Terminal D) wins hands down in attractiveness with VKO being second and DME on third place. I can still remember how I tried to go via DME at all costs in the early 2000s and now I try to avoid it with the same passion
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Old January 18th, 2012, 10:48 PM   #689
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JAL FY2012 Operation Changes: Planned Boeing 787 Operation


JAL today (17JAN12) announced planned Summer 2012 Operation changes, which outlines planned Boeing 787 routes on International operation.

Tokyo Narita – Moscow Domodedovo 3 weekly (Day 146)

http://airlineroute.net/2012/01/17/jl-fy12/



JAT Airways S12 Operation Changes as of 18JAN12

Belgrade – Moscow Sheremetyevo Increases from Daily to 10 weekly

JU134 BEG0810 – 1300SVO 733 4
JU132 BEG1310 – 1800SVO 733 D
JU134 BEG2125 – 0215+1SVO 733 57

JU135 SVO0555 – 0700BEG 733 16
JU135 SVO1355 – 1500BEG 733 4
JU133 SVO1850 – 1955BEG 733 D


http://airlineroute.net/2012/01/18/ju-s12update2/
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Old January 18th, 2012, 11:03 PM   #690
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while SVO is fully surrounded.
They have plans for the third runway.
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Old January 19th, 2012, 12:30 AM   #691
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Sheremetyevo airport has serviced 22,5 million passengers in 2011.

Sheremetyevo international airport has serviced 22,555 million passengers (+16,7% as compared to 2010), the airport’s press-service reports. AEX.ru

The passenger traffic in international airlines has increased by 18,1% to 15 512 000 passengers, as for domestic airlines – by 14,3 % to 8 043 000 passengers.
Sheremetyevo airport has serviced 1 732 000 passengers in December 2011, which is greater than the same figure in 2010 by 23.8%.

The airport has provided implementation of 210 740 takeoffs and landings in 2011 (+14,2% as compared to 2010). The main increase of passenger traffic on international routes has been provided by Aeroflot, Transaero, Nordavia, Nordwind Airlines, AeroSvit, Air France, Turkish airlines.

The most popular international destinations during the 11 months of this year were Antalya, Paris, Istanbul, Prague, Beijing, Kiev, Sharm el-Sheikh, Rome, Hurghada and the federal ones were – St. Petersburg, Sochi, Krasnodar, Yekaterinburg, Kaliningrad, Rostov-on-Don and Samara.

"Sheremetyevo airport provides a high level of service quality to its customers and establishes conditions for outrunning growth of its partner airlines, which increases the airport’s attractiveness for new carriers. The following airlines have joined the airport’s “family” in 2011 – Royal Air Maroc, Blue Panorama, «Kogalimavia», «Orenair», «DonbassAero», Turkish Cargo, Uzbekistan Airways (cargo transportation)", - said in the press-service’s message.

Transaero, Air France, Czech Airlines, Estonian Air and SAS have significantly expanded their operating activities thus making a significant impact on the growth of international transportation’s indicators. The main contributor to the total passenger traffic, Aeroflot – Russian Airlines, has successfully implemented the development program for transportation on federal routes, providing high level of indicators in this segment, representatives of Sheremetyevo noted.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 09:11 PM   #692
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@ borza: of course DME has the best long-term prospects. Nevertheless, after being the first Moscow airport to offer both a quick railway connection and a state-of-the-art-Terminal, the airport couldn't cope with the fast growth and to be honest, I am asking myself why East Line needs more than five years for the refitting and expansion of the main Terminal. Right now, SVO (at least Terminal D) wins hands down in attractiveness with VKO being second and DME on third place. I can still remember how I tried to go via DME at all costs in the early 2000s and now I try to avoid it with the same passion
And what about the terminal F in SVO. It's also operating some flights, but I don't believe it's a nice visit card for the first time arrived tourists, or is it refurbished?
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Old January 21st, 2012, 09:14 PM   #693
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They have plans for the third runway.
Yes, I know, but after I seeing this project, I was not really convinced about it. While in DME you just can lay asphalt and that's all per definition, in SVO you need to make a serious infrastructure and the third runway is also probably the limit.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 09:27 PM   #694
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And what about the terminal F in SVO. It's also operating some flights, but I don't believe it's a nice visit card for the first time arrived tourists, or is it refurbished?
It's quite shitty, that's right, but the advantage is that's it's not overcrowded. But of course, if SVO means Terminal F or SVO 1 for a certain flight, VKO or DME are preferable, that's right. Neverthless, most of the SU flights are handled in Terminal D.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 08:25 AM   #695
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Considering ten weekly flights from Jat, could Aeroflot send us some bigger bird to Belgrade? There was some talk about that, but I think the passengers wanted more options besides making it a single daily flight with a A330.. I think the chances are slim to none. Aeroflot uses A330s/B767 on Asian/American destinations. Nonetheless, let hope both SU and JU introduce 2nd daily very soon.


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JAL FY2012 Operation Changes: Planned Boeing 787 Operation


JAL today (17JAN12) announced planned Summer 2012 Operation changes, which outlines planned Boeing 787 routes on International operation.

Tokyo Narita – Moscow Domodedovo 3 weekly (Day 146)

http://airlineroute.net/2012/01/17/jl-fy12/



JAT Airways S12 Operation Changes as of 18JAN12

Belgrade – Moscow Sheremetyevo Increases from Daily to 10 weekly

JU134 BEG0810 – 1300SVO 733 4
JU132 BEG1310 – 1800SVO 733 D
JU134 BEG2125 – 0215+1SVO 733 57

JU135 SVO0555 – 0700BEG 733 16
JU135 SVO1355 – 1500BEG 733 4
JU133 SVO1850 – 1955BEG 733 D


http://airlineroute.net/2012/01/18/ju-s12update2/
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 08:35 AM   #696
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Shocked JAL didnt fly to Moscow before this.

EDIT: NM, they were already flying to DMO.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 11:28 AM   #697
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Yes, news were about B787, JAL flies to Moscow for decades, started in 1970. In 2007 they changed SVO for DME. For the last years they used B772 on this route, and now yet.
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 09:21 PM   #698
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Some pictures of DME airport


http://www.airliners.net/photo//2034...786d856740233a


http://www.airliners.net/photo//2024...786d856740233a
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Old January 22nd, 2012, 09:57 PM   #699
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VNUKOVO





http://vnukovo.ru
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Old January 23rd, 2012, 06:46 PM   #700
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Vueling S12 Operation Changes as of 23JAN12


As per 23JAN12 GDS timetable display, Vueling’s Summer 2012 operation changes (not including new routes) as follows:

Barcelona – Moscow Domodedovo Increases from 10 to 14 weekly


CSA Czech Airlines S12 Operation Changes as of 23JAN12

As per 23JAN12 GDS timetable and inventory display, CSA Czech Airlines’ latest changes to Summer 2012 operation (effective 25MAR12) as follows:

Prague – Moscow Sheremetyevo Summer service increases from 24 to 29 weekly
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