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Old August 23rd, 2014, 08:29 AM   #261
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My understanding is that they would probably build some kind of railway logistics terminal in order to load cargo from one gauge to another.

Standard gauge also means that Thailand would be able to use Chinese-made rolling stock which is probably a good thing given that China builds huge amounts of all kinds of rolling stock and other related railway products for standard gauge.
Besides the technology. China is the biggest reason for choosing standard guage. Thailand clearly wants to connect with China. The first 2 route go straight to the north and north eastern which is part of China plan to build the new line down to SE asia. At lease they have been negotiating with Loas government for one which will connect with northeastern route for quite some time already.

Regarding to other neighbor. It is already connected with existing 1 meter guage single track. So i dont see much of the problem (besides the fact that it is just single track). And since Malaysia also have the plan to extend their standard guage line up north after finish first KL-Sg link. The timeline would be quite similar.
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The speed for the two standard gauge lines has been raised to 180 km/h and OTP will hire a consulting firm to study the economic impact.

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For the case of the standard gauge train from Nong Khai to Laem Chabang deep sea port and Map Taphut deep sea port (737 km at 392,570 Million Baht) along with the line from Chiang Khon to Ban Phachi and Kaeng Khoi (655 km at 348,890 Million Baht), the max speed has been raised to 180 kph to satisfy both cargo train and passenger trains - and this line is going to be designed to allow upgrading to become full fledged High speed train later with the minimum cost. and the line will follow much the same track as the existing railway line and the future double tracking for the difficult section through Dong Phraya Yen
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Old August 28th, 2014, 11:01 AM   #263
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Dual-track railway study gets go ahead
Published: 28 Aug 2014 at 08.30
Writer: Amornrat Mahitthirook

The Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning (OTP) will launch a feasibility study into two dual-track railway projects in October.

The study will be carried out by a consulting firm and cover two urgent projects, OTP deputy director-general Chaiwat Thongkamkoon said.

The routes are a 737-kilometre stretch linking Nong Khai, Khorat, Saraburi, Laem Chabang and Mab Ta Phut at a cost of 392.5 billion baht, and a 655km stretch from Chiang Khong and Den Chai to Ban Phachi at a cost of 348.8 billion baht.

The two routes are pilot projects for wider 1.43 metre tracks.

The selected consulting firm will sign a contract in October and the study is expected to take about one year, Mr Chaiwat said, adding the construction of the two rail routes should be complete by 2021.

According to Mr Chaiwat, a new government railways agency will be responsible for the investment and will have to work with other state agencies to finance the scheme, either from the budget, a loan or an infrastructure fund.

The State Railway of Thailand will handle the practical operation of the trains. It will either run the train service itself or privatise it, he said.

Mr Chaiwat said a Chinese commercial attache met transport permanent secretary Soithip Traisuth last week and has confirmed China is interested in jointly investing in the rail construction projects.

The attache also asked that a previous deal made between Thailand and China on the formation of a joint venture to invest in the project be reconsidered. Mr Chaiwat said the military government will decide whether to revisit the venture, which was set to include the Thai government and Thai and Chinese private companies.

“China is interested in investing as it has a mutual economic dependence with Thailand,” Mr Chaiwat said. “The two electric rail routes would be a gateway to commercial links with China.”

He added that China is about to construct high-speed railways linking Laos and Thailand.

Deputy permanent secretary for transport, Chanchai Suwisuthakul, said the two routes will support speeds of up to 180km per hour and focus on the shipment of goods between Thailand, Laos and China.

He said the second phase of double-track rail development, which will be carried out between 2022 and 2029, includes three routes between Tak-Phitsanulok-Ban Phai, Nong Khai-Ubon Ratchathani, and Ban Phachi-Bangkok-Padang Besar.

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Two out of 20 new locomotives from CSR Qishuyan that will handle cargo will be delivered by the end of October 2014.

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Here the face of the first 2 new locomotives from CSR Qishuyan (CSR-U20) using Caterpillar C175 ACERT diesel engine with max power of 3755 HP - getting the running number of 5101-5102 -> this batch of loco got the running number of 5101 - 5120 though - to be delivered by the end of October 2014 after receiving the Letters of Credit from Thanachard Bank PCL. This type of loco is for Lad Krabang ICD - Laem Chabang Deep Sea Port and Cargo train from Nong Khai to Laem Chabang Deep Sea Port
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Old August 29th, 2014, 02:38 PM   #265
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SRT (State Railway of Thailand) reform plan to modernise the railway

  1. 50 new locomotives to replace GE locomotives 6,563 million baht
    - 30 new Diesel Electric Locomotives with axle load of 16 tons
    - 20 new locomotives with axle load of 20 tons + spare parts

  2. 423 new Passenger car & Tank wagon
    - 308 new tank wagon 770 million baht
    - 115 new passenger car 4,668 million baht

TOR will be announced in October

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Old September 2nd, 2014, 06:12 PM   #267
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It is still not decided yet what track gauge they will use for the Hat Yai-Padang Besar section, which is also getting a priority. However every new lines in Thailand now will be standard gauge to accommodate future High Speed Rail, so they will have to find a way to work that out somehow. The plan should be clearer at the end of the year.
Malaysia maintained the meter gauge because
1.itd be damn expensive convert the meter gaige network to standard gauge and the rolling stocks.
2. Taking note that connectivity to the Thailand rail network is by meter gauge and for trade purposes.

Itd be more viable if thailand double track its meter gauge network and apply electrification which could have fast trains reach 160km/h.

The standard gauge HSR meanwhile should be built on a new alignment and separate from the current meter gauge network.
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Old September 5th, 2014, 06:18 PM   #268
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Electrified dual-track rail routes using a 1.435-metre standard gauge

Phase 1: 2015-2021
Phase 2: 2022-2029


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Chinese Government asking for Junta about the pledge for standard gauge lines with total price tag of 741,460 Million Baht from

1. Nong Khai - Khorat - Saraburi - Map Taphut - 737 km at 392,570 Million Baht - comparing to the route from Nong Khai to Bangsue Central at 180,000 Million Baht
2. Chiang Khong - Denchai - Ban Phachi - Saraburi - 655 km at 348,890 Million Baht


to allow cargo trains and passenger trains to reach both Laem Chabang and Map Taphut and justification for loan to construct Lao - China railway with a promise for technology transfers. Furthermore, China want to revive the MOU of 2010 to set up the company to run this standard gauge service with 51% Thai government and private sector and 49% Chinese government and private sector with registered capital of 100 billion Baht to meet the Chinese strategy -
already pass the Article 190 debate but Khun Mark government dissolved in 2011 ... Next on the line will be the line to Bangsue Central before heading Padang Besar ...

For the MOU of 2012, PT men demand High Speed train to Chaing Mai First before High Speed train to Nong Khai with 250 kph and technology transfer of 100 Thai railway men

However, this will need EIA clearance which is to be done in 2015 using the data from the studies on Bangsue Central - Chiang Mai and Bangsue Central - Nong Khai along with Airport Link to Rayong - with max speed reduced to 160 kph and follow much of the existing railway line.

For passenger train from Chiang Khong and Nong Khai, they will meet at Ban Phachi as Ban Phachi has been assigned as a transfer point, OTP has been compelled to deal with the transfer.

For the cargo train from Nong Khai, it will follow the route before heading along the line to Klong 19 Bypass before heading to Laem Chabang and Map Ta Phut ... Same thing can be said to cargo train from Chiang Khong - which is going to follow the double tracking of Klong 19 bypass.

Chinese Government also show serious attention to massive double tracking on 6 line with the price tag of 127,472 Million Baht.
Ministry of Transport asking Big Too and his new cabinet to approve Nong Khai - Map Ta Phut first - with the construction started in 2015 and done in 2022. This has to be done with Thai - Chinese Joint Committee


However, Khun Chatchart said just 160 kph for cargo will make Thailand as just a passing route, not the real destination as the speed is not competitive to Low Cost Airline - need at least 200 kph but he never mention how much we have to pay more for this matter,

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SRT plans multimodal hub at Bang Sue
02 Oct 2014



THAILAND: State Railway of Thailand has reactivated long-standing plans to develop land around Bang Sue station on the northern edge of Bangkok under a property deal aimed at reducing the company’s debt pile.

Three plots of land have been identified by SRT, and these would be developed for mixed commercial and retail use. But the national railway also envisages Bang Sue as the location for a multimodal hub combining main line, suburban and metro services.

Bang Sue is already served by a station on SRT’s metre-gauge main line network and by metro authority MRTA’s Blue Line. SRT is also leading construction of the Red Line, a metre gauge high-density suburban line which already runs west from Bang Sue to Taling Chan, a distance of 15 km. This would be extended through the city to an interchange with the standard gauge Suvarnabhumi airport line at Makkasan

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Railway plan proposed for deep sea port in Songkhla

BANGKOK, 13 October 2014 (NNT) – The State Railway of Thailand (SRT) has proposed to the Transport Ministry a construction plan for the first electric railway route between a deep sea port in Songkhla province and Malaysia.

According to the SRT,
The new route will be about 100 kilometers long.

The route will connect 3 major destinations including Malaysia, Hat Yai, and Songkhla’s Deep Sea Port. If the plan is approved, a higher number of Malaysian tourist arrivals will be expected and the amount of time it takes for sea shipments will be significantly reduced.

As of now, the current system requires that all shipments be transported on a circuitous route through Malaysia and Singapore, which requires 7 days to reach the destination. The new railway, however, will assure swift arrivals of commodities.

Both the SRT and the Transport Ministry are currently studying the possibility on whether the plan could be implemented, as previously there have been problems where locals have encroached on railway land between the Hat Yai and Songkhla stations. Properties have been built illegally on a 70 kilometer stretch of the land and local residents have refused to move away. -

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Old October 17th, 2014, 01:37 PM   #272
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The signing ceremony of the agreement to buy 115 new passenger coach set on Friday, October 17, 2014, at the the Hall of the Ministry of Transport.

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นางสร้อยทิพย์ ไตรสุทธิ์ ปลัดกระทรวงคมนาคม เป็นประธานในพิธีลงนามสัญญาซื้อรถโดยสารรุ่นใหม่สำหรับบริการเชิงพาณิชย์ ( Passenger Coach Set ) จำนวน 115 คัน ระหว่างการรถไฟแห่งประเทศไทย กับ กิจการร่วมค้า บีบีซี ในวันศุกร์ที่ 17 ตุลาคม 2557 ณ อาคารสโมสรและหอประชุมกระทรวงคมนาคม

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Here is the official notes for signing the contract - after we have not sign the contract to purchase new carriages since 1995.

115 carriages with the total price is 4,668,891,500 Baht (Cheaper than the specified price of 4,668,891,500 Baht - taken from investment fund of 176.81628 billion Baht approved on 27 April 2010) to be listed as follows:
- 9 Units Air conditioned power vans with facility compartments (APVC)
- 88 Units Air conditioned second class day & night coaches Consisting of
1) 79 Air conditioned second class day & night coaches (ANS) and
2) 9 Air conditioned second class day & night coaches with handicap facility (ANSH)
- 9 Units Air conditioned first class day & night coaches (ANF)
- 9 Units Air conditioned restaurant cars (ARC)

The way to arrange the trains will be:
Departure train:
DL/EL+APVC+ANS+ANS+ANS+ANS+ANSH+ARC+ANS+ANS+ANS+ANS+A NS+ANF

Arrive train:
APVC+ANS+ANS+ANS+ANS+ANSH+ARC+ANS+ANS+ANS+ANS+ANS+ ANF+DL/EL

All to be used for SP 1/2 (to Chiang Mai), SP 13/14 (to Chiang Mai) IE 35/36 (up to Hat Yai), SP 37/38 (Up to Hat Yai), EXP 67/68 (to Ubon), EXP 69/70 (to Nong Khai) - delivered from CNR Changchun Railway Vehicles Co. Ltd. (中国北车长春轨道客车股份有限公司 ) in October 2016 - even though the first 2 sets (13 carriages per set) will be delivered in August 2015 to be used for SP 1/2 and IE 35/36 while the rest will be delivered in August 2016. If those 115 carriages works so well, 250 more aircon carriages will be the next - to be used in the lucrative routes such as Trang express 83/84, Nakhon Srithammaraj express 85/86, and to be used in SP 3/4 (BKK - Sawankhaloke - Sila At) to replace the aging BREL Sprinter ... with a hope to use those carriages to revive some defunct rapid by upgrading to expresses.

the price to pay for the new carriages with goodies such as aircon sleepers with aircon restaurant car and the lavatory with tanks to carry excretion, VIP room for the first class with CCTV, carriages for the handicapped with max speed of 120 kph to speed up to the destination by 3 hours is to hike the 1st class and 2nd class aircon by 15% within 3 year to pay off the debts even though they have to fight against Low cost airline to gain 1.5 million passengers more passengers - and revenue of 1250 million Baht a year

Now, SRT hope to make a settlement with State enterprise committee about 50 new loco with axle load of 16 ton and a price tag of 6562 million Baht within 2 months with the explanation that these locomotives have been for these 115 new aircon set with the max speed is 120 kph to explain that these type of loco require max speed of 120 kph and need to be lighter to be able to run nationwide without causing a trouble with the track and to have something the 20-ton axle loan loco (CSR Qishuyan) would not have.

For the new 20 locos from CSR Qishuyan for Laem Chabang route at 3.3 billion Baht, the first 2 (No. 5101-5102) will be delivered in December 2014 after the custom clearance and some corrections on the shortcomings ... the other 8 (No. 5103-5110) will be delivered in April 2015 and the last 10 (No. 5111-5120) will be delivered in June 2015.

Kinsmen of Fatso Praphat said CNR Changchun Railway Vehicles Co. Ltd. (中国北车长春轨道客车股份有限公司 ) can produce high speed train carriage at the rate of 5000 carriages a year so they are qualified.
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115 sleeper carriages with a total price of 4,668,891,500 Baht

- 9 Units Air conditioned power vans with facility compartments (APVC)
- 79 Air conditioned second class day & night coaches (ANS) and
- 9 Air conditioned second class day & night coaches with handicap facility (ANSH)
- 9 Units Air conditioned first class day & night coaches (ANF)
- 9 Units Air conditioned restaurant cars (ARC)

The 115 carriages will have the following features:
- Close Toilet System
- Direct link between all the carriages, except for electric power and first class carriage, which has a connecting door on one side only.
- Passenger Information System
- Facilities for the disabled of international standard
- Use Power Car system for air conditioning and for generating power, which will be more energy efficient.

The carriages can handle a max speed of 120 km/h, but operational speed will be 90-100 km/h.
These are to be delivered from CNR Changchun Railway Vehicles Co. Ltd. in October 2016.

- Under the plan, the SRT will also purchase 50 new locomotives to replace the old GE locomotives.
- 250 more aircon carriages (regular set) will be purchased, which is still under study.
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Those are some very nice 25T passenger carriages, since they are rated at a continuous operating speed of 160km/h, the potential is there for Thailand to speed up their conventional rail network a bit.
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Those are some very nice 25T passenger carriages, since they are rated at a continuous operating speed of 160km/h, the potential is there for Thailand to speed up their conventional rail network a bit.
Yes, but the Chinese carriages mainly run on 1435 mm tracks. How fast are Chinese trains now on their 1000 mm line, Kunming-Hanoi?
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Yes, but the Chinese carriages mainly run on 1435 mm tracks. How fast are Chinese trains now on their 1000 mm line, Kunming-Hanoi?
Trains haven't run from Kunming to Hanoi on the metre-gauge line for several years. On the Chinese side, the last reports I read said trains ran into the outskirts of Kunming only.
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Hi, does anyone know what cause the fire ? Old age loco, engine etc ?

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Thailand Rail Infrastructure Plan

The cabinet has just approved the strategic plan to develop transportation infrastructure of Thailand for the year 2015-2022.

The development of intercity rail network, which will be performed in three cases are:

1. Improve rail infrastructure and development of six double track railway routes with a distance of about 900 km.
The routes are:
  1. Thanon Jira Juncton - Khon Kaen (185 km)
  2. Prachuab Khirikhan - Chumporn (167 km)
  3. Nakhon Pathom - Hua Hin (165 km)
  4. Lopburi - Paknam Pho (148 km)
  5. Map Krabao - Nakhon Ratchasima - Thanon Jira Juncton (132 km)
  6. Hua Hin - Prachuab Khirikhan (90 km)

2. Eight more double-track railway routes in the second phase with a distance of about 1,600 km.

3. The development of electrified double track with standard gauge of 1.435m (High Speed Train) with a distance of 1,060 km.
The routes are:
  1. Bangkok - Nakhon Ratchasima and Nakhon Rachasima - Map Ta Put (512 km).
  2. Bangkok - Rayong (193 km).
  3. Nakhon Ratchasima - Nong Khai (355 km).

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Phase I double track
  1. Chachoengsao - Klong 19 - Kaeng Koi (106 km) : ready for construction, 2014-2018
  2. Thanon Jira Juncton - Khon Kaen (185 km) : waiting for approval, 2015-2018
  3. Prachuab Khirikhan - Chumporn (167 km) : waiting for approval, 2014-2018
  4. Lopburi - Paknam Pho (148 km) : waiting for EIA, 2014-2018
  5. Map Krabao - Nakhon Ratchasima - Thanon Jira Juncton (132 km) : waiting for EIA, 2014-2018
  6. Nakhon Pathom - Hua Hin (165 km) : waiting for EIA, 2014-2018

Phase II double track
  1. Hua Hin - Prachuab Kiri Khan (90 km) : 2015-2019
  2. Pak Nampho - Denchai (285 km) : 2015-2020
  3. Thanon Jira Junction - Ubon Ratchathani (309 km) : 2015-2020
  4. Khon Kaen - Nongkhai (174 km) : 2015-2020
  5. Chumphon - Surat Thani (167 km) : 2015-2020
  6. Surat Thani - Songkhla (339 km) : 2015-2020
  7. Hat Yai - Padang Besar (45 km) : 2015-2020
  8. Denchai - Chiang Mai (217 km) : 2015-2020
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