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Old March 4th, 2016, 12:01 PM   #541
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I thought the request to develop the land strip along the Thai-Chinese rail line had been dropped? Given the ongoing problems with the project (land strip requests, interest rates on loans, technology transfer, etc.), would Thailand be better to quietly drop this project?
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Old March 4th, 2016, 04:07 PM   #542
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I thought the request to develop the land strip along the Thai-Chinese rail line had been dropped? Given the ongoing problems with the project (land strip requests, interest rates on loans, technology transfer, etc.), would Thailand be better to quietly drop this project?
Nope - This is Junta goal as well as What Chinese want but need to address on the issue on land development - it would be a lot better to set designated quarters of the town and city for Chinese settlement and land development - should not far away from the stations which is mostly in the urban zones ... to prevent the conflicts with the local people.

Japanese representative is asking for the 24 km extension from Map Taphut industrial estate to downtown Rayong as the way to get right for the way for the future high speed train to Rayong
http://manager.co.th/Politics/ViewNe...=9590000023325



SRT governor talk about Denchai - Chiang Rai - Chiang Khong to those from Wiang Chiang Rung district of Chiang rai that it will make a connection with Laos
http://manager.co.th/Local/ViewNews....=9590000023272
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Old March 6th, 2016, 11:33 AM   #543
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I wll wait for this conclusion. If this project still running with high cost and the issue of both side of rail still remaining..I thought this proj. Will not occure because of anti . If win win situation, it will award ti Chn train.
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Old March 7th, 2016, 12:34 PM   #544
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Denchai - Chiang Rai - Chiang Khong railway line with the distance of 323.1 km and a price tag of 77,275 million Baht will start the construction in 2017 at the same time as Ban Phai - Nakhon Phanom railway line - just need EIA clearance as Denchai - Chiang Rai - Chiang Khong railway line is passing through mountain areas - a long waiting from the first proposal in 1960 even though the idea has come up since 1918.
http://www.prachachat.net/news_detai...sid=1457341547
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Old March 7th, 2016, 01:05 PM   #545
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Now, TPI cannot stand with the loco shortage so they have to pay 1,600 million Baht for 12 SDA-4 Diesel electric locomotives from China at 135 Million Baht per locos -- the first 8 locos have been commissioned while the other 4 will be assembled while PTT is going to purchase 6 new locomotives with a price tag of 810 million Baht to run crude oil trains, refined oil trains and natural gas trains ...while SRT is going to build the new cement Silo for TPI while the existing silo at Nong Khon Kwang, Huay Khayung, Lamphun will be expanded - the new Cement silo will be built at Bueng Phra (not far from Bueng Phra Oi Depot.

furthermore UNIQ Engineer PCL is purchasing 2 new locos + 120 wagons for the transport of concrete chunks to be assembled for the construction of Bangsue Central.

SRT is going to speed up the bidding of 50 new Diesel electric locos despite of the strong objection by Democrat men since ONLY CSR Qishuyan purchase the bidding form on Phahonyothin Fright yard - on the section not far from Bangsue Central.
https://www.facebook.com/pichet.cham...83263691687693

Transferring the land of Makkasan factory to pay off 60 billion Baht of Debts and the final divorce of Airport Link from SRT will get another 27 billion Baht to cut off the debts
http://www.thairath.co.th/content/586312
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...83349095012486

MOT felt bullish that SRT can run red line commuter networks and manage to make money from red line commuter without private sector - not just 5 year - but need to clear up 87 billion Baht debts first
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...83268071687255
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Old March 8th, 2016, 11:38 AM   #546
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Denchai - Chiang Rai - Chiang Khong railway line with the distance of 323.1 km and a price tag of 77,275 million Baht will start the construction in 2017 at the same time as Ban Phai - Nakhon Phanom railway line - just need EIA clearance as Denchai - Chiang Rai - Chiang Khong railway line is passing through mountain areas - a long waiting from the first proposal in 1960 even though the idea has come up since 1918.
http://www.prachachat.net/news_detai...sid=1457341547
Are there any plans to link the end of this railway to one across the border?
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Old March 8th, 2016, 07:12 PM   #547
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Are there any plans to link the end of this railway to one across the border?
the EOL is on Thai side of the 4th Friendship Bridge at Chiang Khong district of Chiang Rai - need to build the parallel railway bridge though but this will be in consideration after the opening of Lao - China railway
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Old March 9th, 2016, 02:52 PM   #548
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In other words this could be a secondary link across the river into Laos then linking to the Kunming to Bangkok line?
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Old March 9th, 2016, 03:00 PM   #549
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In other words this could be a secondary link across the river into Laos then linking to the Kunming to Bangkok line?
this is exactly the reason why Denchai - Chiang Rai - Chiang Khong has to be revived with the right of the ways to allow the construction the line to connect with Bangsue Central - Phitsanuloke - Chiang Mai by making an interchange at Phitsanuloke as Phitsanuloke - Chiang Mai section is going to use Sukhothai route.
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Old March 9th, 2016, 04:46 PM   #550
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Chinese making a firm grip on Thai railways

1. 20 new AC-AC Diesel electric locos at 2020 Million Baht by CSR Qishuyan + SANFOCO (Santi Forest)
2. 115 new aircon carriages at 4668 million Baht from CNR Chang Chun Railway Vehicle + Khao Lak Bamboo Orchid, Ruam Mitr Mine + China Railway construction - to be ready in May 2016
3. 308 new BCFs from CSR Meishan via Siam Bogie
4. the 50 new 16 ton axle load locomotives - likely Chinese loco mkaere - expect CSR Qishuyan + SANFOCO (Santi Forest) to get this deal as there is no rival but is still up to cabinet.

Even TPI now purchasing 12 new AC-AC Diesel Electric locomotives from CSR with 16 ton axle load to run Cement trains while PTT is following the suit
http://www.prachachat.net/news_detai...sid=1457331028
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Old March 10th, 2016, 05:16 PM   #551
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this is exactly the reason why Denchai - Chiang Rai - Chiang Khong has to be revived with the right of the ways to allow the construction the line to connect with Bangsue Central - Phitsanuloke - Chiang Mai by making an interchange at Phitsanuloke as Phitsanuloke - Chiang Mai section is going to use Sukhothai route.
possible time frame?
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Old March 10th, 2016, 08:29 PM   #552
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possible time frame?
For Denchai - Chiang Rai - Chiang Khong, should be started the construction in 2017 after speeding up the EIA clearance ... However, I would like to see whether Thai - Japan railway have started the construction ...
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Old March 11th, 2016, 08:16 AM   #553
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DO believe the Chinese will link this railway to their own network?
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Old March 11th, 2016, 02:43 PM   #554
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DO believe the Chinese will link this railway to their own network?
They will as many Chinese businessmen have already set up the business in Chiang Rai, so it is their interests do the EXIM business between Thailand and China thanks to the 4th Friendship Bridge across Mekhong at Chiang Khong
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Old March 11th, 2016, 04:21 PM   #555
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linked to jing hong in yunnan via laos?
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Old March 11th, 2016, 04:30 PM   #556
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linked to jing hong in yunnan via laos?
Definitely - the route will follow much the same as Highway No. 3 (Huay Xai - Vieng Phu Kha - Nateuy (the station before passing to the Friendship Railway tunnel to Mohan) as shown here
https://www.google.co.th/maps/dir/Ch...6!2d21.0579779
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Old March 13th, 2016, 07:13 AM   #557
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Old March 13th, 2016, 02:51 PM   #558
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Definitely - the route will follow much the same as Highway No. 3 (Huay Xai - Vieng Phu Kha - Nateuy (the station before passing to the Friendship Railway tunnel to Mohan) as shown here
https://www.google.co.th/maps/dir/Ch...6!2d21.0579779

how good is highway three? Is it divided expressway all the way from China to Thailand?
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Old March 14th, 2016, 07:59 AM   #559
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how good is highway three? Is it divided expressway all the way from China to Thailand?
Definitely NOT express and it depended on the sections of highway 3 but Many Chinese tourists manage to drive from Kunming all the way to cross the 4th Friendship bridge to Chiang Mai city including the mobile home trucks ....
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exactly my intention
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