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Old April 25th, 2011, 04:11 PM   #141
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Well, I don't know, but I measured the distance from Kunming to Singapore in straight lines (not realistic), passing through Vientiane and Bangkok, and got 2900km. Perhaps People's Daily meant 2900km and not 3900km.
Railway Singapore-Kuala Lumpur-Bangkok-Vientiane exists now (metre gauge). How long is it?
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Old May 3rd, 2011, 01:07 PM   #142
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New authority urged for high-speed rail

Published: 2/05/2011 at 12:00 AM

The State Enterprise Policy Office (SEPO) proposed setting up a new state enterprise to take care of the government's high-speed train routes instead of letting them be run by the State Railway of Thailand.

Director-general Somchai Sujjapongse said under international standards, when new high-value investment projects will affect the overall economy, a new company is created to manage the projects.

Before any changes can be made, discussions must first take place with the Ministry of Transport, which is in charge of the state railway, and the owners of land where the routes will be constructed.

Any new company will still be a state enterprise in which the government would be a major shareholder. "We are proposing this for a high-value project because the capacity of the state railway is limited and slow," Dr Somchai said.

The government plans to build five high-speed train routes including the 754-kilometre Bangkok-Chiang Mai route, which will cost 232 billion baht, and the 221-km Bangkok-Rayong route that will cost 74.8 billion. The other three routes are Bangkok-Ubon Ratchathani, Bangkok-Nong Khai and Bangkok-Padang Besar.

In the next five years, state enterprises will invest some 2 trillion baht in other sectors including logistics and energy.

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Old June 22nd, 2011, 08:54 PM   #143
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Old August 1st, 2011, 10:13 AM   #144
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Japan keen to develop high-speed rail service


Japan is interested in developing a 230 billion baht high-speed train service from Bangkok to Chiang Mai and Rayong, says Supoj Saplom, permanent secretary of the Transport Ministry

Mr Supoj said he had learned about the interest at a meeting yesterday with Akira Yonezawa, deputy director-general for engineering affairs at Japan's Railway Bureau. The full line would be more than 800km long, he was told. The two met a day after a high-speed train accident in China that killed 35 people.

Mr Supoj said Japan was highly experienced in high-speed railways and its bullet trains had never had an accident.

In China a lightning strike caused a power outage that brought to a halt a high-speed train on an elevated track in the city of Wenzhou. Then another high-speed train smashed into the stalled one from behind, killing at least 38 people.

Thai transport and engineering authorities said they did not think a similar accident could occur here due to the Kingdom's higher safety standards.

That's because Thailand's electric railways - all inner city services in Bangkok - had dual power supplies, Mr Supoj said. Those supplies ensure a continued flow of electricity to trains in case of a breakdown in power supplies.

He added that if a train did stop, traffic control would see the problem and deactivate other trains fast enough to prevent a collision. Also, the intervals between Bangkok's electric trains are long enough for authorities to prevent rear-end collisions.

Mr Supoj cited the 15-minute interval between express trains on the Airport Rail Link system that connects inner Bangkok to Suvarnabhumi airport.

Still, Thai authorities will study the collision in China to improve safety measures for Thai railways, he said.

Suchatvee Suwansawat, dean of the Faculty of Engineering of King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Ladkrabang, said back-up power supplies in Thailand would make a similar collision unlikely, or even impossible. Besides, controllers of Bangkok's airport link, skytrain and subways would automatically cut power supplies to trains on a problematic track if a train stalled. He said that a failure of a safety-oriented power shutdown function might have been the reason for the collision in China.

Yuthana Thapcharoen, governor of the State Railway of Thailand, said that during a test run of the SRT's Airport Rail Link before it became fully operational, the power system had broken down and the link had automatically stopped all trains to prevent a collision.

"If the electricity system is really out of order, the SRT has a back-up plan," he said. "Its controllers can switch to manual mode or use a phone to communicate [before an accident occurs]."

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Old August 1st, 2011, 04:32 PM   #145
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Old August 25th, 2011, 09:35 PM   #146
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Revised fast-train plan shakes Transport Ministry

The Nation Published on August 26, 2011

Transport Ministry officials have been thrown off track by the new government's sweeping changes to the high-speed-rail development plan.

Supodh Saplom, permanent secretary, said yesterday that he would soon ask for the new minister's confirmation of the revised plan.

The major changes involve distances and investment approaches.

The previous government envisaged linking Bangkok with Padang Besar in Malaysia and Nong Khai in the Northeast by high-speed trains with the technical and financial assistance of the Chinese government. The joint-venture proposal is being studied by China, but this government apparently does not acknowledge it.

The new government has also shortened the planned routes and apparently switched to the public-private partnership model as the investment structure.

The Bangkok-Nong Khai route has been chopped to end in Nakhon Ratchasima.

Bangkok-Rayong - an extension of the Airport Rail Link - would stop at Map Ta Phut.

And Bangkok to the far South would terminate at Hua Hin.

The government also intends to invest first in the Bangkok-Chiang Mai route.

These amendments will require a review of the cost estimates, Supodh said.

"With the changes, our train network won't be connected with our neighbours," he said.

To link with Laos, the northeastern route would have to be extended to Nong Khai.

Democrat MP Chuan Leekpai urged the government to clarify the scheme to avoid confusion, as the new high-speed-rail policy is concentrated in the North and Northeast.

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Old September 15th, 2011, 08:33 PM   #147
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1.4m gauge rail track study

Published: 15/09/2011 at 06:06 PM

The State Railway of Thailand will study the feasibility of upgrading its existing one-metre-gauge train tracks to the standard gauge, or 1.435 metres, proposed for future train services.

The study was announced by Deputy Transport Minister Chatt Kuldilokeon on Thursday after a meeting with SRT officials to discuss the government’s plans to construct a high-speed rail system and upgrade the country’s double rail tracks.

Mr Chatt said the government wanted high-speed trains to carry both passengers and freight.

He asked the SRT to study the feasibility of building the new standard gauge track, used in most countries, along the same routes as the existing narrow gauge tracks.

The study would look into the comparative costs.

Mr Chatt said it was proposed the planned Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima high speed rail route, to run on the wider tracks, would also be extended to Laem Chabang Port in Chon Buri.

An SRT official who did not want to be named said the plan would be “extremely hard” to implement due to the high construction cost and technical problems in the course of construction.

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Old September 24th, 2011, 11:10 AM   #148
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Published: 15/09/2011 at 06:06 PM

The State Railway of Thailand will study the feasibility of upgrading its existing one-metre-gauge train tracks to the standard gauge, or 1.435 metres, proposed for future train services.

The study was announced by Deputy Transport Minister Chatt Kuldilokeon on Thursday after a meeting with SRT officials to discuss the government’s plans to construct a high-speed rail system and upgrade the country’s double rail tracks.

Mr Chatt said the government wanted high-speed trains to carry both passengers and freight.

He asked the SRT to study the feasibility of building the new standard gauge track, used in most countries, along the same routes as the existing narrow gauge tracks.

The study would look into the comparative costs.

Mr Chatt said it was proposed the planned Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima high speed rail route, to run on the wider tracks, would also be extended to Laem Chabang Port in Chon Buri.

An SRT official who did not want to be named said the plan would be “extremely hard” to implement due to the high construction cost and technical problems in the course of construction.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/tran...railway-tracks

Is this concept for having standard gauge lines while retaining the metre gauge lines?

Or is it to regauge all metre gauge to standard gauge?

Which approach is better in the long run?

This question will be applicable to Malaysia which runs on metre gauge also.
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Old October 1st, 2011, 12:07 PM   #149
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Old October 12th, 2011, 09:06 PM   #150
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France's Alstom bullish on Thai infrastructure growth

Published: 12/10/2011 at 12:00 AM

Alstom, the France-based electrical engineering group, has set its sights on obtaining a bigger presence in Thailand's power and rail transport sectors, saying prospects remain strong despite the major flooding.

Patrick Kron, the chairman and chief executive, said yesterday that flooding may be a big problem at the moment, but infrastructure projects are vey important for the country's economic development.

''To expand the economy by more than 4% as targeted by this government, you need infrastructure growth,'' he said.

Alstom is among the top three players in the world in its main sphere of power generation and transmission and rail transport.

Thailand's revenue contribution from rail transport operations has been minimal compared to power generation and transmission.

''Power generation in Thailand basically relies on gas, and we're the leader in that worldwide. With our technology, I believe we have a good chance to win more projects to grow our business in Thailand and other Southeast Asian countries,'' said Mr Kron.

Regarding rail transport, he said Alstom looked forward to accelerating its participation in more projects in order to cement its position locally including metropolitan and intercity train projects.

The company's focus is shifting to Asia in general and especially Thailand as orders from Western Europe and North America dwindle.

In the past, two-thirds of Alstom's sales were generated from these traditional markets and the rest from emerging economies including the BRIC countries (Brazil, Russia, India and China).

''But now, it's the other way around, with the traditional markets growing by 1% to 1.5% against more than 4% for the emerging economies,'' said Mr Kron.

East, Southeast and South Asia excluding India and China see 22 gigawatts of new capacity each year, of which 6 GW or 27.3% are from renewable sources such as solar, wind and hydropower.

In Thailand, Didier Farez has been named as Alstom's new country president as well as area manager of global power sales in this country plus Laos, Cambodia and Burma.

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Old October 15th, 2011, 09:56 AM   #151
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Nong Khai-Satun high-speed rail route revised to bypass Bangkok

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Published on September 16, 2011

The Transport Ministry will revise the route of the planned high-speed rail project linking southern Thailand with southern China via Laos to pass through Chon Buri's Laem Chabang Port, rather than Bangkok.
According to the original plan, the Thai section of the route was from Nong Khai to Satun's Pak Bara Port via Nakhon Ratchasima and Bangkok. Instead, the route will be from Nong Khai to Laem Chabang Port via Nakhon Ratchasima, without passing through Bangkok.

Deputy Transport Minister Pol Lt-General Chatt Kuldiloke said the government wants to adjust the route of the high-speed train to allow goods from China and neighbouring countries, as well as the Northeast of Thailand, to reach Laem Chabang without having to go through Bangkok.

He also discussed rail width with executives of the State Railway of Thailand (SRT) and the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning. They agreed to a plan involving three tracks combining the high-speed train, which will use a standard gauge of 1.435 metres, with an ordinary train gauge of one metre. The SRT will study the technical problems and cost of construction to determine whether the project is feasible. The study would be completed by the end of this month, Chatt said.

SRT Governor Yuthana Thapcharoen said railways in Thailand currently use a one-metre gauge, and there are no tracks with a width of 1.435 metres. The SRT will further study whether conventional trains will be allowed to travel on the same track as the new high-speed train. The SRT needs to look at the whole picture, because goods transported to Bangkok come mostly from the North, Northeast and the South, Yuthana said.

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The Transport Ministry plans the following high-speed rail routes for Thailand: Bangkok-Chiang Mai; Bangkok-Ubon Ratchathani; Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima; Bangkok-Hua Hin-Padang Besar; and Bangkok-Rayong. It is most likely that the public sector will construct the track and other basic infrastructure while the government will ask the private sector to invest in the high-speed rolling stock. A decision on whether the latter investment will be in the form of a joint venture or a concession will be made later.

According to a study by the Transport Ministry, a high-speed rail route from Bangkok to Chiang Mai covering a distance of 745 km will cost Bt230 billion, and from Bangkok to Rayong covering a distance of 221 km will cost Bt60.15 billion. The first phase of the Bangkok-Phitsanulok route, covering a distance of 382 km, will be completed in 2015 along with the Bangkok-Rayong route. The stretches from Bangkok to Nong Khai and from Bangkok to the southernmost provinces will require a gauge of 1.435 metres, allowing trains to travel at up to 200 kph.

A source from the ministry said an MOU on the project that Thailand sent to China has not made any progress, as China is waiting for more details from Thailand's new government before negotiations can proceed. Changing the route for passengers and freight from Nakhon Ratchasima to Laem Chabang without going through Bangkok is one adjustment that needs to be discussed, the source said.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2011...-30165413.html

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Most news about Thai Hight Speed Train are in thai, this is the most recent one that is in english.
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Old October 15th, 2011, 03:12 PM   #152
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Bypass Bangkok? Are they ******* serious? That's the greatest idea to lose market.
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According to the latest news, they scrapped that plan, and it will pass through Bangkok again. The english news just aren't up to date with thai news.

You can also see it from this plan from thai news (it's the orange line on the plan).



http://www.thairath.co.th/page/trainPage
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Old October 16th, 2011, 02:47 AM   #154
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Phew, that's good. Thanks for the info, Tsuna-san :P
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Old October 25th, 2011, 08:24 PM   #155
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Japan plans rail link study

Published: 25/10/2011 at 12:00 AM

Japan is looking for a consultant to work on a joint feasibility study for a proposed 230 billion baht high-speed train service from Bangkok to Chiang Mai, the deputy director-general of the Office of Transport and Traffic Policy and Planning says.

Pranote Suriya said yesterday that the Japanese government was likely to sign a contract with the chosen consulting firm this year. The study of the 754-kilometre rail route will likely take four months to complete.

The study will look into the project's capital investment costs and benefits, the route alignment options, the number of stations, the best size of track gauge for the route, the railway operation system and the number of potential passengers.

The State Railway of Thailand will take into account the study results along with an earlier OTTPP feasibility study report when deciding whether to pursue the project, Mr Pranote said.

Japan will decide whether it wants to invest in the project after the feasibility study has been completed.

Meanwhile, Lao authorities have reassured Transport Minister Sukumpol Suwanatat that another high-speed railway project from China to Laos will continue to Bangkok.

Recently, Laos and China were at odds about the project because the Lao government could not accept a condition imposed by Beijing demanding the use of land along the line in exchange for its financial sponsorship of the construction.

The Laos-China rail route will run from Kunming, the capital of China's Yunan province, to the China-Laos border and then on to Vientiane and Thailand, where another high-speed track is planned from Nong Khai, just across the border from Vientiane, to Bangkok.

Mr Pranote said his agency would set aside funds from its 2012 fiscal year budget to pay for a feasibility study for three other rail lines _ the Bangkok-Nakhon Ratchasima route (256km), the Bangkok-Phitsanulok route (382km) and the Bangkok-Hua Hin route (225km).

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Old October 27th, 2011, 01:37 PM   #156
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According to the latest news, they scrapped that plan, and it will pass through Bangkok again. The english news just aren't up to date with thai news.

You can also see it from this plan from thai news (it's the orange line on the plan).



http://www.thairath.co.th/page/trainPage
Christ that poster is full of misinformation regarding train speed. It takes the top speed ever reached on chinese railways and compares it to the projected speed of a maglev service, top speed of the KTX-II, a totally random speed for the TGV, and again, some top speed of a one-off test set for the Shinkansen. I mean seriously, what the hell?
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Old November 9th, 2011, 06:35 PM   #157
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The flooding in Bangkok on Railways.





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Awesome! I guess the tracks were not too submerged. Were was the train heading to/from?
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Awesome! I guess the tracks were not too submerged. Were was the train heading to/from?
Yes, it's from Hua Lam Phong Railway Station (Bangkok Railway Station) to Don Muang Railway Station(Bangkok). But Don Muang Railway Station to Ban Pashe Main Railway Station(Ayutthaya province) is closed beacause the tracks were too submerged.


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