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Old June 7th, 2009, 05:26 PM   #81
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Old June 7th, 2009, 05:55 PM   #82
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Dubai...its so fantastic..really cool..
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Old June 7th, 2009, 10:45 PM   #83
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Amazing Malec, its like providing a PHD thesis on Dubai super towers.
I give you A+
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Old June 8th, 2009, 12:17 PM   #84
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Great work malec!
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Old June 11th, 2009, 07:57 AM   #85
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Old June 11th, 2009, 06:22 PM   #86
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Gracias for the update, Culwulla - looks fine!

Only two remarks:
- the smallest of the fonts next to the towers are almost unreadable.
- Emirates Park Towers are much taller. On May 24th you stated in the towers' thread "lev47= 225m", and now there are about 5 levels more. So 245m could come close for both towers.
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Old June 12th, 2009, 04:26 PM   #87
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^thanks ill fix up next week./
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Old July 10th, 2009, 02:07 PM   #88
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CULWULLA can you please make an update in the next days?
Your last diagram is a little bit old...
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Old August 6th, 2009, 03:08 AM   #89
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How to read my tables.




The general progress of the towers and stats, etc.




How the construction is expected to progress on these towers. For this I didn't use official schedules, just did them based on my own intuition and observation of construction of these type of towers in general. They could be wrong so nobody should take these as set in stone at all. Also this is assuming things go as they are currently going now and no major surprises, good or bad.
You'll notice I've given timetables for damac heights and the lighthouse tower which are now on hold. Work on damac heights is supposed to start soon enough and also there is a chance more work will be done on the lighthouse. I've made the timetable assuming they do get started and then a main contractor. Same with burj al alam and the pentominium.




The projected number of supertalls as the years go by.


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Old August 6th, 2009, 03:37 AM   #90
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Dubai seem to be coming along nicely. There so many supertalls where do I start.
Adoro Dubaii
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Old August 6th, 2009, 04:55 AM   #92
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gee, the early part of 21stC is lean, but post 2006 its incredble b00m.
12 ready for this year but 28 by 2015? wow

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Old August 6th, 2009, 06:12 AM   #93
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diagram update
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Old August 6th, 2009, 10:25 AM   #94
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More supertalls to come in the next few years.

BTW ty for the updats guys.
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Old August 6th, 2009, 02:14 PM   #95
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Whoops, I think I got some of the numbers wrong in that last one. The numbers should correspond to how many towers are at the END of the year. So the number of towers over 300m right now is only 9 but at the end of the year the torch, ocean heights and emirates park towers should break 300m so the number should be 13 (not 12, sorry.)
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Old August 7th, 2009, 02:18 AM   #96
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You think Pentominium will be completed sooner than Burj Al Alam? We will see...

And I don't think there will ever be 28 supertalls. The large growth of Dubai has stopped. Prices of residences has dropped like 49%, people were buying houses just to sell them for the double price a few months later. That couldn't go on forever. So now it dropped in and that together with the credit crunch makes it really bad. So I think prices are going to rise a bit in the future but they won't reach the old levels anymore. Lower prices means lower profits for the developers, which means they will 1. stop building or build less, or 2. search for ways to make buildings less expensive to build. What's one of the best ways to make them less expensive? make them less higher..
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Old August 7th, 2009, 03:12 AM   #97
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You think Pentominium will be completed sooner than Burj Al Alam? We will see...
OK let's see what will make it finish faster. The pentominium is already ahead of burj al alam (piling finished), it doesn't have a massive podium and it has a better developer and rumours have it that it has a main contractor also. That definitely puts it ahead.

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And I don't think there will ever be 28 supertalls. The large growth of Dubai has stopped. Prices of residences has dropped like 49%, people were buying houses just to sell them for the double price a few months later. That couldn't go on forever. So now it dropped in and that together with the credit crunch makes it really bad. So I think prices are going to rise a bit in the future but they won't reach the old levels anymore. Lower prices means lower profits for the developers, which means they will 1. stop building or build less, or 2. search for ways to make buildings less expensive to build. What's one of the best ways to make them less expensive? make them less higher..
I don't think there will be 28 either but I do think there will be 20. The next few years will see lots of supertalls get finished since there are 19 above ground now. Remember, a lot of the biggest projects get finished in a recession since they take so long to build that by the time they're done (even if they started near the beginning of the boom), the crash has happened. So unless some stop midway (let's hope that doesn't happen), then there will be 19. Then, I think one of the big ones will be built, so either burj al alam, pentominium or bin manama towers.
Also prices have come down yes but construction costs have also come down since contractors have less jobs so have to be more competitive and also raw materials cost less because of oil prices. If anyone wants to build a tower and has the money then now is the time to build it, keep it empty for a while and then when things start going up again the tower is built and ready to be used.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 01:35 AM   #98
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Dubai Supertall Progress Report


Nakheel Tower

As dead as a door nail.




Burj Dubai

Cladding work has increased in speed recently




Pentominium

Piling is finished and excavation is going on to reveal the pile caps. The main contractor is ACC who have a lot of experience building supertalls. They have built or are building the princess tower, elite residence, almas tower, rose rotana, etihad towers and central market in Abu Dhabi.




One Park Avenue

Dead.




Dubai Towers

Dead




Burj al Alam

Piling work has been restarted here and is going on at a fairly quick pace. Piling is supposed to be completed at the start of the next year.




Burj al Fattan

The height has been revealed as 463m from a document from somebody working on the design. The demolition is pretty much done now. We will see soon whether this area becomes a construction site or a car park!




Bin Manana Twin Towers

Piling continues but slowly.




Damac Heights

Nothing here but there is a redesign expected and apparently Damac still want to build this in some shape or form.




Marina 106

This has gotten very slow recently. Almost on hold I think but we will see.




Princess Tower

This has definitely slowed down. The tower rises only one floor every two weeks now. Core is on the 66th floor.




Marina 101

Once the regular floors started this started rising quickly. The tower is now on the 26th floor.




The Lighthouse

Piling has been completed but this is now on hold since there has been no main contractor selected.




23 Marina

Progress is steady, not slow and not fast. They have started work on the last section of floors which is a set of 24 floors which will have balconies with pools on them. Will be interesting to see how they look. I expect progress to slow down a little because of every second floor being different. Should reach 300m in the new year I think.




Emirates Park Towers

Excellent progress here. Somewhere above the 60th floor now and should pass 300m before the end of the year.




Elite Residence

This is also very slow. They have been building the 2nd and 3rd floors above the podium for ages and are only now starting to get past.




Almas Tower

Still not completed but is actually partially occupied already.




Al Attar Tower

Progress continues on the cladding but very slow. Nothing yet on the spire.




The Torch

Progress continues to be very good here. The tower is on the 75th floor while the core is at the 77th or 78th floor. This should reach 300m in a few weeks.




Rose Rotana Suites

A completed but unused tower on SZR.




The Skyscraper

Very very slow, almost dead.




Al Yacoub Tower

Work here has picked up speed once again after going on hold for a while. The height has increased by a few floors and lots of cladding (but ugly) has been put on. The tower seems to be somewhere near the 65th floor while the core is around 2 or 3 levels above.




The Index

Very slow still but there is progress at least. Cladding at the tower is continuing at a slow pace.




HHHR Tower

Cladding work is progressing well and this tower should be complete early next year.




Ocean Heights

Excellent work here and looking great too. Tower on the 68th floor and core probably on the 70th. Should top out before the year’s end.




Infinity Tower

Work is progressing well here. The tower is on the 14th floor while the core is somewhere near the 20th.




Al Hekma Tower

Dead

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Old August 10th, 2009, 01:48 AM   #99
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Very nice update Malec, love it.

But why isn't the Rose Rotana used? Couldn't they make alot of money now if they had guests and stuff in it.
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Old August 10th, 2009, 03:20 AM   #100
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thanks malec you are the man.
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