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Old July 13th, 2009, 09:38 PM   #261
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Old July 15th, 2009, 01:08 AM   #262
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Most English trains look like this;



Velaro looks like this;



And most japanese units look like this;



Just to put it simple
It you do the same thing with buildings...

English trains...my favorite...

Classic design, good shape etc


Velaro train...

I like them actually so no comment...

Continental 'nice looking trains'...

This is how I see them
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Old July 15th, 2009, 02:36 AM   #263
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It you do the same thing with buildings...

English trains...my favorite...

Classic design, good shape etc


Velaro train...

I like them actually so no comment...

Continental 'nice looking trains'...

This is how I see them
I would actually wear that!!
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Old July 15th, 2009, 02:54 AM   #264
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Old July 15th, 2009, 03:50 PM   #265
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It you do the same thing with buildings...

English trains...my favorite...

Classic design, good shape etc
More like this..



You can't simply say that continental trains all look like shit, there's a lot of variety. Some look like shit and some are gorgeous.
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Old July 15th, 2009, 04:36 PM   #266
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For comparison, Belgian trains look like this

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Old July 15th, 2009, 10:55 PM   #267
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You can't simply say that continental trains all look like shit, there's a lot of variety. Some look like shit and some are gorgeous.
I like the Velaro, it has a good shape. But in general continental trains just look odd, strange features and odd shapes. It might sounds like I'm nit picking if I say a train is ugly because it has square windows, a very high rood or very short coaches but to me the wider windows, curved sides and long sometimes 75'+ coaches is a much better height-length ratio...

Velaro


1988 BR MK4 coach...perfect shape, design and style...


CRAZY French design, very high roof and oddly shaped square windows...




BR Class 175, perfect window shapes, perfect roof height, perfect in general!



To make it fair...Even the UKs old 'ugly' trains are well shaped and proportioned etc...
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Old July 17th, 2009, 06:23 PM   #268
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Some more Australian rollingstock for comparison. I believe it all comes down to personal experience. European rollingstock strikes me as being rather odd-looking, while I find a certain familiarity with North American and British passenger stock. Living as I do out here, there isn't much in the way of what would be considered by most standards HSR. Our networks are all pretty well separated by the tyranny of distance, so we have some good variety in each state.

You will find a lot of Australian rollingstock makes use of ribbed stainless steel - I expect there is a good reason for this, what it is exactly I am not 100% certain. it means the bodies are virtually indestructible and stand up to all the major exigencies that 30 or more years of service can throw at them. The imported X'trapolis sets in Melbourne which do not make use of stainless steel are beginning to look very tired and shabby after only 5 years or so - paint is worn and vandalised, rust is quite obvious and the ride quality is very poor.

Perth

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B-sets:



The Australind



South-East Queensland / Brisbane - my home state

1900 class railmotor (this unit has been preserved and has not been in revenue service for many years - probably the loveliest little train I have posted)



EMUs (as these were the first electric multiple units in Queensland, that is simply what they have been called since day 1). The front moulding has been refurbished and fitted with anticlimbers since the original models entered service.







SMU 200 and 220 series (Suburban Multiple Unit)



IMU 100 and 120 series (Interurban Multiple Unit)



IMU 160 and SMU 260 series currently being delivered (common interoperable designs, only functional difference is that the IMUs are fitted with toilets). The design is fundamentally the same as the Perth B-sets - both produced by Bombardier in Queensland, Perth's have a slightly wider loading gauge. I am generally aboard these trains every day of the week.





Electric Tilt Train



Spirit of the Outback (hauled by a 2100 class diesel - the class leader is pictured)



Adelaide

2000 class



3000 class







Melbourne

Hitachi sets



Comeng sets (refurbished by Alstom and EDi in the early 2000s - the EDis feature the centred destination display):









Siemens sets





X'trapolis sets





Indian-Pacific - hauled by NR class locomotives. The consist shown in the desert at Cook, South Australia, is over 660 metres long.



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Old July 18th, 2009, 05:18 PM   #269
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Oh I have to say I do like those Australian trains!
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Some of those trains look alright...not to keen on that last one tho...
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Old July 19th, 2009, 06:06 AM   #271
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Im surpised that in the thread, eurostar rolling stock (300kmh) hasn't been mentioned.

British, French, Begian whatever you want to call them.

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Old July 19th, 2009, 04:38 PM   #272
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Class 395

Class 395...looks totaly great!

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Old July 19th, 2009, 06:47 PM   #273
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I have seen this thread for months on the thread list, but have never clicked. And - now i regret it (not waiting, but clicking), coz it's exactly what i expected.
1. The title itself is very impertinet, that's why i havent dropped here in. How can a person start an international thread saying "u all suck, only we are awesome" (free translation).
2. I hopped it's just a title, and the discussion would be ok, but... how can u expect ppl dont get mad, if most of british users in this thread say: "u all suck, only we are awesome" ?
We - the rest of the world - are fed up with this impertinence.
Maybe if the thread would start: "I like english trains. Aren't they cool?" the whole discussion would be on a higher level. But this here is just shame.

Every - averege intelligent person knows - that in each country there are nice trains and ugly ones. Every person knows also, that England, Britain or UK (whatever u call it) isn't the best place in the world, and has no right to call itself like that.
Each person knows that generalizations are dangerous...
...or maybe not? /sarcastig/

I hope - at least some of the Brits here - will get the point, that not ONLY british trains are cool. In that case u never would see this post:

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Most English trains look like this;



Velaro looks like this;



And most japanese units look like this;



Just to put it simple

And now my opinion about trains:
I don't like most of english trains with the flat front, the same for french RER trains.





but i like all TGV's including Eurostar and i like this:



Is it english train? so what? It doesnt matter. I like this one - surprisingly.
I like most of german and austrian trains but i dislike this:



and i think this one is maybe the ugliest lok ever:

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How can a person start an international thread saying "u all suck, only we are awesome" (free translation).
But that's not been the case. This thread has actually been quite a good discussion from British and non-British forumers, with some non-British forumers agreeing with the opening remarks, and with some British forumers disagreeing.
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But that's not been the case. This thread has actually been quite a good discussion from British and non-British forumers, with some non-British forumers agreeing with the opening remarks, and with some British forumers disagreeing.
THANK YOU!!!

As the person who started this thread...I can say that it had nothing to do with saying England is great everywhere sucks! Did I EVER say that...NO.

I said that appearance wise, I only like English trains...and started a discussion about it...

There hasn't been any bad words said about countries...just views and thoughts on train designs...

And just to continue it...Don't you just love the Class 444...I sure do!

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And now my opinion about trains:
I don't like most of english trains with the flat front, the same for french RER trains.
they have flat fronts as they are commuter trains running at lower speeds (75-90mph)
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Old July 20th, 2009, 07:53 PM   #277
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very nice pictures of the trains and such but i keep on wondering why the fighting about it.

the more higher speed trains don't have a flat front because they can go much faster due to being areodyamnic.
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I like the Velaro, it has a good shape. But in general continental trains just look odd, strange features and odd shapes. It might sounds like I'm nit picking if I say a train is ugly because it has square windows, a very high rood or very short coaches but to me the wider windows, curved sides and long sometimes 75'+ coaches is a much better height-length ratio...
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1988 BR MK4 coach...perfect shape, design and style...
Looks better than this?

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To make it fair...Even the UKs old 'ugly' trains are well shaped and proportioned etc...
That is entirely a matter of taste. If you weren't so passionate and thorough, I'd think you were trolling.
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Im surpised that in the thread, eurostar rolling stock (300kmh) hasn't been mentioned.

British, French, Begian whatever you want to call them.

[img]http://i28.************/qo7k45.jpg[/img]

Made by Alstom in all 3 locations.
I think it has been mentioned, and I think it's the worst looking of all the HSTs. It looks like a TGV mated with a platypus and gave birth to this.

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Class 395...looks totaly great!

140Mph emu



This train does look great. A bit similar to the Velaro, but the Velaro is still a lot slicker IMO.
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Old July 21st, 2009, 10:34 PM   #280
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Can we close this thread? It's embarrassing.

The majority of trains on the continent are far more sophisticated, elegant and roomier than UK trains.

The UK does well on number of trains going at 100mph+ - but that's about it. Everything else on UK rail is surpassed somewhere else.

Maybe we can get back to this when the British start designing trains and technology again.
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