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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:10 PM   #341
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Is that supposed to warn track workers? Move in time or i'll suck your face off? Bizarre train, where is it?
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Old July 29th, 2009, 11:46 PM   #342
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Denmark, but also in Sweden, Belgium and Israel.

"When two or more units are coupled together in a single train, the entire front windscreen and driver’s seat folds away to give a wide passage, and the characteristic large rubber diaphragms at the ends form a flush aerodynamic seal."
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Old July 30th, 2009, 01:45 AM   #343
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You got that right. Dear sweet Jesus...





Although it does look better painted and from a different angle, granted it's just a rendering




The one in the rendering has a better design of light clusters, making the 'face' more appealing.

So the nitwits at GE couldn't even see the one good aspect of their own design when looking at the 'drawing', and had to opt for some nipple-style headlights.

Perhaps when they paint them they ought to fit a bushy black beard on, just to amuse us even further.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 02:15 AM   #344
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I hear you on that...the 442s do have a strange cab design...but the rest couldn't be better, the window, door and roof dimensions are perfect...

Compared to this ones it looks lovely.





Like everything else ... it's all in the eyes of the beholder (or something like that).
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Old July 30th, 2009, 02:28 AM   #345
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perfect example...look at the roofs of the coaches...dodgy dome roof or what...

You don't get it with the BR MK1,2,3 or 4 coaches...





The reason why I post them is because they do not have any dodgy features like have been going on about for ages...Find me an English train with a silly high roof or looking like a tram...

MkIII are (pardon my english) b**uggggly.

Even more ... they are the single cause of ALL the english-trains-bashing in this topic ... the MkIII and the silly yellow fronts.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 02:52 AM   #346
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In my view, Britain's top five, best-looking diesel/electric trains/locomotives are as follows:

1. The IC 125 power car
2. The class 47 and Kestrel prototype
3. The class 92
4. The class 180 Adelante

5. The class 60

These all stand up within the best that Europe offers.

The worst looking train that Europe will see will be...the new class 70s.

I'd love to know how the designers at GE gave the design the green light. Were they on Crystal Meths at the time?

All are foot-ugly indeed ...

1. The IC 125 power car ... no ... both the power cars and the Mk3 are uggly if left by themselves ... together in a consist they ar indeed pleasant to the eye ... but that is all in the worm-shape and most of all ... in the livery.
2. The class 47 and Kestrel prototype ... mehhh ... not THAT bad looking
3. The class 92 ... hell NO ... but ugly as they come
4. The class 180 Adelante ... not that good looking ... only in the new ribbons livery it has become edible.
5. The class 60 ... hell No times ten ... the worst looking of what Britain as ever put on rails ...



Let me get you one taste of the best looking top list edible british trains:

1- Class 390 (plus the voyagers ... theres simply no way around the FACT that going by looks they are superb(*))
2- Class 55+Mk2
3- Class 152/158/159 (aka the sprinters)
4- Class 125(the consist)
5- this one is difficult ... class 47 , 50 , 37 or even something completelly different ??? or the APT-E/P (who could even take the 4th place from under the IC125's feet's) ???

*) nobody can argue that the HST's/bulldog shaped trains take the crown when looks are discussed .. sharp nose and it only takes a well tought livery to make things look right.

(in no relevan order)
World top trains:

Deltic (UK)
Mat' EMU (netherlands)
F units (USA)
TGV (france)
Shinkansen 0/100 (japan)

... a lot more forgoten or hidden under a stone somewhere.
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Old July 30th, 2009, 02:57 AM   #347
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perfect example...look at the roofs of the coaches...dodgy dome roof or what...

You don't get it with the BR MK1,2,3 or 4 coaches...





The reason why I post them is because they do not have any dodgy features like have been going on about for ages...Find me an English train with a silly high roof or looking like a tram...

Silly roofs are abundant in the UK:




And bus-like are even worse ...












^I have a handy shovel over here ... how deep do you want us to dig the hole ???
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Old July 30th, 2009, 02:59 AM   #348
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You don't think the class 92s or 60s are good looking beasts?

And you only think the class 47s are just about ok?

Perhaps I have a gene within me that favours machines that have sprung from the Brush works...
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 12:23 AM   #349
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Silly roofs are abundant in the UK:




And bus-like are even worse ...












^I have a handy shovel over here ... how deep do you want us to dig the hole ???

I agree...but that is only a very small number...
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 12:24 AM   #350
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MkIII are (pardon my english) b**uggggly.

Even more ... they are the single cause of ALL the english-trains-bashing in this topic ... the MkIII and the silly yellow fronts.
Whats wrong with the MK3s? They are the most basic and well thought out design shape a train could have...
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Old August 3rd, 2009, 03:31 PM   #351
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The Siemens Class 185 dmu's used by Trans Pennine Express are pretty good looking trains in my opinion. They sound very good too, with powerful 750hp engines in each carriage. Great for climbing those steep gradients over the Pennine Hills between the cities of Leeds, Manchester and Sheffield.

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I like these aswell...

They look clean and nicely shaped...

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Whats wrong with the MK3s? They are the most basic and well thought out design shape a train could have...
In.

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Old August 3rd, 2009, 10:18 PM   #354
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They look clean and nicely shaped...
Yeah I like them as well. Trans Pennine Express run the similar 170 Class Turbostar's.

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They look pretty sweet in X-Country livery too.

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Old August 3rd, 2009, 11:31 PM   #355
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Mine.

Too.
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Mine.

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And mine. The Mark IIIs stand up there with the best of Continental locomotive hauled carriages.
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Old August 4th, 2009, 10:30 AM   #357
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They look clean and nicely shaped...
Weird cheek bones and cross-eyed headlights. Positioning of the driver's cabin is asymmetrical.
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Weird cheek bones and cross-eyed headlights. Positioning of the driver's cabin is asymmetrical.


I agree. The cheek bones reminds me of Peter Sellers in The Revenge of the Pink Panther, when Clouseau is in his Godfather disguise.

I can forgive the cheek bone face of these trains, but the eyes are a mess. Why do so many train designers mess up when it comes to the lights?

As for the driver's cabin being asymmetical, what do you mean exactly? Do you mean, the driver's seat is not slap bang in the middle of the left side window?
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what do you think then?
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I agree. The cheek bones reminds me of Peter Sellers in The Revenge of the Pink Panther, when Clouseau is in his Godfather disguise.

I can forgive the cheek bone face of these trains, but the eyes are a mess. Why do so many train designers mess up when it comes to the lights?

As for the driver's cabin being asymmetical, what do you mean exactly? Do you mean, the driver's seat is not slap bang in the middle of the left side window?


If you look closely, you'll notice the outline of the cabin (the part where it connects to the rest of the train) is clearly distinguishable, it doesn't blend. There's a sharp border. It runs along that black line over the roof all the way down along the sides. It looks like the front panel of a computer case, like you could easily click it off.



The cabin itself is asymmetrical in that the destination sign doesn't run across the entire width, of course.

That makes this train, by poshbakerloo's own standards of aesthetics, an ugly train.
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