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Old August 19th, 2007, 10:37 PM   #221
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I know of many sections of road where I really have to concentrate to keep to the limit as you have just described.
You could also wonder as to why there is such a low limit on the road. Is it because all the motorists using the road were driving safely and prudently? I think not. Just imagine how much public money could be saved and all the saved repairs to the underbodies of cars if they didn't need speed bumps? Why are there speed bumps everywhere in Holland? Because motorists won't stick to the limit. Cause and effect. If motorists can get out of the ''me, me'' attitude (I think it's safe. I can drive as fast as I like. It's your fault if you get in my way) then their wouldn't be a need for such measures. But motorists can't seem to help themselves so therefore you end up with low speed limits, speed cameras and speed bumps. Cause and effect, cause and effect....
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Old August 19th, 2007, 10:38 PM   #222
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Old August 20th, 2007, 12:23 AM   #223
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I know of many sections of road where I really have to concentrate to keep to the limit as you have just described.
You could also wonder as to why there is such a low limit on the road. Is it because all the motorists using the road were driving safely and prudently? I think not. Just imagine how much public money could be saved and all the saved repairs to the underbodies of cars if they didn't need speed bumps? Why are there speed bumps everywhere in Holland? Because motorists won't stick to the limit. Cause and effect. If motorists can get out of the ''me, me'' attitude (I think it's safe. I can drive as fast as I like. It's your fault if you get in my way) then their wouldn't be a need for such measures. But motorists can't seem to help themselves so therefore you end up with low speed limits, speed cameras and speed bumps. Cause and effect, cause and effect....
If you want people to follow the speed limit, you must set it at a reasonable number, like 130-140kmh for motorways.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 02:23 AM   #224
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Depends on the motorway
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Old August 20th, 2007, 08:48 AM   #225
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Too bad we all don't live in Rural Germany near an Autobahn.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 03:46 PM   #226
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If the speeds are reasonable. I hardly drive 110 kmh on rural motorways in the summer if the distances are long cause I dont intend to sit in the car all day.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 06:01 PM   #227
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Speed limits in Oklahoma where I live are 75/mph or 120/kmh on the rural toll roads, but most drive about 140/kmh to 145/kmh... I choose the latter
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Old August 20th, 2007, 08:04 PM   #228
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Rural Expressways: 70-80mph (speed limit usually 65-70mph)
Urban Expressways: 60-75mph (speed limit usualy 55-60mph)

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Old August 20th, 2007, 08:13 PM   #229
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In my city, yes, when i'm too lazy to look out for cops (Since there's practically no crime in our city, cops turn to giving traffic violations as their primary source of pastime)

But usually no, I drive about 10 mph (16 kph) faster than the speed limit in urban freeways and streets, and about 20-40 mph (32-64 kph) faster (traffic permitting) on rural roads.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 09:19 PM   #230
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I don't want to get stressed by getting fines, so I mostly drive just around the speed limit (if possible). A single time about 130-140km/h, but not more (except in Germany).
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Old August 20th, 2007, 09:43 PM   #231
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There's a quite a few straight long streches of road where I live, dual carridgeways, no buidings Speed limit 50kmh. Most people drive there at 80-120 kmh.
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Old August 20th, 2007, 11:34 PM   #232
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If you want people to follow the speed limit, you must set it at a reasonable number, like 130-140kmh for motorways.
Why is it reasonable?
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Old August 21st, 2007, 02:56 AM   #233
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When the majority of traffic is travelling at 120-130km/h, it isn't safe to stay within a 100km/h speed limit. The result is that most traffic adjusts to the higher speed. On the 401 in Toronto, people pay zero attention to passing in the passing lane because there are up to 9 lanes. Everyone simply weaves any which way. Vastly different speeds on this highway is just too dangerous because you could have a car closing in on you from 4 lanes over. They might be moving 2 lanes over to the right at 130 while you are moving 2 lanes over to the left at 100. It's a recipe for high speed collision.
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Old August 21st, 2007, 04:05 AM   #234
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When the majority of traffic is travelling at 120-130km/h, it isn't safe to stay within a 100km/h speed limit. The result is that most traffic adjusts to the higher speed. On the 401 in Toronto, people pay zero attention to passing in the passing lane because there are up to 9 lanes. Everyone simply weaves any which way. Vastly different speeds on this highway is just too dangerous because you could have a car closing in on you from 4 lanes over. They might be moving 2 lanes over to the right at 130 while you are moving 2 lanes over to the left at 100. It's a recipe for high speed collision.
Why then have speed limits at all if the majorty speed is the safest. Mabye the majorty has wrong
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Old August 21st, 2007, 06:26 AM   #235
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Why is it reasonable?
1.Its a speed that most people are comfortable driving and also more satisfying for them
2.Studies shows that today's motorways can support high speeds than posted limits.
3.Current limits(at least in US and other Anglo countries) is rather low for today's cars.
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Old August 21st, 2007, 12:08 PM   #236
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1.Its a speed that most people are comfortable driving and also more satisfying for them
2.Studies shows that today's motorways can support high speeds than posted limits.
Mabye so. I think it's all about how severe accidents we can accept. Does the benefits from reduced travell times compensate for higher cost in health care and pollution.

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3.Current limits(at least in US and other Anglo countries) is rather low for today's cars.
But what about our power of reaction, has it changed?
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Old August 21st, 2007, 12:20 PM   #237
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Isn't it true that the speed limit-less german autobahn is one of the safest road networks in the world?
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Old August 21st, 2007, 01:46 PM   #238
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frankly, if the road condition and traffic flow allow me to drive fast, i am always drive over the speed limit. hehe....
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Old August 21st, 2007, 05:33 PM   #239
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Well around here...

The speed limits on highways are usually between 55-65 mph (~90-110 km/h), but people usually drive around 100-130 km/h instead. You will RARELY find Hartford Police patrolling the highways because they have more important things to do (high crime rate). In the suburban and rural areas though, you have to watch yourself, because state police is always around to fill their quotas.

I usually drive a little bit faster than the speed limit...usually around 10 km/h more.
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Old August 21st, 2007, 06:12 PM   #240
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Isn't it true that the speed limit-less german autobahn is one of the safest road networks in the world?
Jep.

But i think North Korea is the safest in the world, since nobody has a car.
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