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Old March 18th, 2008, 11:50 AM   #341
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I'm not a street racer or something, by the way, but when there is almost zero traffic, 50/80 is a very low speed limit, and i still feel comfortable to drive 60/70 (100/110) on a quiet straight 2 lane road. On freeways, i usually do not drive faster than 120/130 (70/80)
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Old March 18th, 2008, 12:49 PM   #342
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The only sign I saw was 35 mph (56 km/h)
I find it hard to believe you have speed limit signs saying 56kph in Poland.

Anyway. Why is everyone quoting mph here?
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Old March 18th, 2008, 12:51 PM   #343
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Anyway. Why is everyone quoting mph here?
Because i don't want this subforum to be all-European I hope more American forumers join. Maybe they do that easier when i also post non-metric units.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 01:05 PM   #344
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But at the moment you're discriminating European forumers
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Old March 18th, 2008, 01:08 PM   #345
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There is a whole world outside Europe that uses metrics you know.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 01:16 PM   #346
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I usually post both units in international topics. But in European topics, i usually only use metric. Besides that, you might have noticed i also use different words like motorway, freeway, expressways etc, in the appropriate topics.

For example, i barely use the word "motorway" in US topics, but Freeway (west coast, midwest) or Expressway (midwest, east). But i use motorway in European topics, and Expressway in Asian topics.

Besides that, i think "Freeway" is a better word than "Motorway", because a motorway literally means a motor way, a road for motor vehicles, which technically can mean any road. A Freeway literally means "Free Flow" (not necessarily free of tolls), which is in my opinion a better word for a motorway-grade road.

China used to call the earliest expressways Freeways, but they switched in the early 1990's.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 01:46 PM   #347
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i follow speed limits mostly in town but not outside . 100km/h are allowed outside, normal are 120 or more....

top speed on a highway was arround 175km/h and on the freeway ~220km/h
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Old March 18th, 2008, 01:49 PM   #348
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There is a whole world outside Europe that uses metrics you know.
This little world?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Metric_system.png
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Old March 18th, 2008, 01:55 PM   #349
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Btw, I drove 100-110 km/h on a 90 km/h limit road during rush hour this morning, the road had ~2 m wide shoulders though and I was overtaken all the time... but I still don't feel comfortable going faster than that on roads without central barriers.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 02:00 PM   #350
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I drove 95 miles an hour on a 2 lane road yesterday. It was on a 30km long dike across water, mostly straight flat-out, and you loose like all points of reference there. It felt like driving 110km/h, the speed limit was 60 miles/100km an hour.
Enkhuizen - Lelystad? I heard a lot of (deathly) accidents happen on that dike...
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Old March 18th, 2008, 02:06 PM   #351
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Yes, that dike. The problem there often is, that truckers having a hard time keeping their truck within the lane with strong crosswinds. Another problem is that because of the long straight sights, it's hard to estimate if you can overtake or not.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 02:07 PM   #352
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Check this insane driver. It's in dutch, but the video speaks for itself.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 03:34 PM   #353
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Check this insane driver. It's in dutch, but the video speaks for itself.
Wow those adverts on the page were annoying but that driver was obviously completely off his rocker.

The police driver was excellent though and the actions of the traffic were commendable too in getting out of the way for the chasing officers. I've seen many occasions here in NZ where people simply don't move for emergency vehicles in Auckland (though they are better in other areas of the country from what I've seen)
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Old March 18th, 2008, 03:44 PM   #354
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US Police usually do a PIT Manoeuver, a Dutch policeman would never do that.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:05 PM   #355
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I follow "almost" them:
- In city: I drive 50/60 (Speed Limit = 50)
- Outside city: 110 (SL = 90)
- Dual carriageway: 130 (SL = 110)
- Motorway: 140 / 150 (SL = 130)
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Old March 18th, 2008, 04:35 PM   #356
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I generally stick to the speed limits as best I can - the exception being the R103 through Hillcrest, where the limit is 60km/h and I'm usually doing around 75km/h. (Given the design of that road, the limit should be 70km/h, but that's another topic.)

Over here, people generally don't stick to the limits if it's a 60km/h road with more than one lane. On the freeways, some people behave better, but not the majority of them. I've lost count of how many times I'm cruising along at 95km/h on a 100km/h road, and someone shoots past me doing at least 140km/h.

As far as the speed limits go, urban roads are generally 60km/h, most rural roads are 100km/h, and freeways 120km/h. There are always exceptions though, depending on the road. Rural roads in the interior of the country (where it's rather flat) are sometimes 120km/h, and the M13 freeway that runs through my neighbourhood is usually 100km/h, but has some 80km/h sections.
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Old March 18th, 2008, 05:18 PM   #357
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I usually don't follow speed limits strictly. I Poland we have a lot of stretches with ridiculous speed limits which do not make driving any safer and serve rather as cash cows for local police. I remember that there was once a speed limit of 50 km/h on a straight stretch of road with wide, hard shoulders in no built-up area near my city. Most of the time you could have seen police hidden in bushes, catching "dangerous and reckless" drivers cruising at breathtaking 80 km/h
The effect was that when the stretch ended, pissed off drivers hit the pedal to the metal and driving became even more dangerous...

Anyway, I usually drive at the speed I fell is actually safe.
Cities: 60 km/h (50 km/h limit)
Rural highways with wide and hard shoulder: 110 - 130 (limit 90)
Rural roads without shoulder: 90 - 100 (limit 90)
Motorways: 150 - 160 (limit 130)
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:18 PM   #358
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Competely agree
  1. City: around 70, on 2x2 or wider roads or when I'm late even 100 -110 (speed limit 50 and 70/60 respectively)
  2. Regular roads: 120 - 130 (max 90)
  3. Expressways: 140 (max 110)
  4. Highways: 140 - 160 (max 130)
  5. Highways in Germany: 160 - 220
On regular roads I also tend to overtake as a 3rd(only when there is a hard shoulder)

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In general most Poles drive like this which will NOT change unless we have sufficient amount of highways and expressways
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Old March 18th, 2008, 06:41 PM   #359
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Norwegian speed limits are, as quite a few of you probably know already, rather low and fines are extremely high. However, considering the amount of traffic carried and road design, not all that many places warrant a much higher limit (outside the few stretches of motorway). Actually, there are only two limits in Norway, urban 50 kph and rural 80 kph. Still, 90 and 100 are normal on motorways, and 60, 70 and 90 are seen on rural roads. In residential neighbourhoods, around schools etc, 30 and 40 are common.

I try to avoid speeding in urban areas (but I sabotage the so-called "environmenal" 60 kph winter limit on Oslo's expressways every chance I get, it's simply ridiculous), but on rural roads I do plus 10-20. Motorways plus 15-30. Abroad, my degree of violation always depends on the limit (don't really see the point in sustaining much more than 130-140, even where the limit makes it ok).

As stated, I don't always stick to the limit. But one should always keep in mind that even a slight increase of your speed may make a serious difference. For instance, if you're just able to make an emergency stop from 50 kph, you would have plowed through the car/deer/lamp post/kid at 30 kph if your speed had been 60 kph...
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Old March 18th, 2008, 08:24 PM   #360
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Guys, let's at least agree to abbreviate "kilometres per hour" as "km/h", and "miles per hour" as "mph". There is no such thing in highway terminology as "kph".
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