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Old January 14th, 2009, 10:56 AM   #541
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There's probably a category I and II organisation in their roads.

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Old January 14th, 2009, 01:33 PM   #542
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What do the "I" and "II" mean?
It should represent the fact that there is a toll for trucks on some 1st class roads (national roads) as well. They are signed only with blue numbers and 1 or 2 digits

It is not very clear though...
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Old January 14th, 2009, 01:57 PM   #543
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What's the speed limit on single carriageway expressway (R)? Is it really 130 km/h?
Theoretically yes, but speed is always limited by sign there. Usually it's 100 km/h, but it can be 90 and 110 as well.

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Old January 14th, 2009, 02:01 PM   #544
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110 with no divided lanes? I think that's the highest in Europe, right? Although Sweden may have some 110 roads too...
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Old January 14th, 2009, 02:57 PM   #545
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110 with no divided lanes?
Is it a lot? You should visit us nore often

Notice that normal roads in Wester and Central Europe differ from each other - we usually have wide shoulder making driving safier.
I doubt you have such roads in the Netherlands.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 03:15 PM   #546
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Sometimes it can be pretty dangerous, mainly on slippery road. But, I guess this guy was driving much faster than 110 since he broke his car into two parts.

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Old January 14th, 2009, 03:15 PM   #547
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We have this important 2-laned roads, especially in the north (N33, N35 for instance). Most of them have Vmax 100 km/h, with a green line as a median, but no shoulders.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 04:53 PM   #548
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110 with no divided lanes? I think that's the highest in Europe, right? Although Sweden may have some 110 roads too...
We used to have such speed limit on the 2-lane expressway/motorroad Maribor - Celje in times of Yugoslavia, when traffic was very light there (it was an exception, b/c the general speed limit on motorroads has always been 100 km/h).

EDIT: Hungarian 2-lane motorroads have speed limit 110 km/h.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 05:41 PM   #549
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We used to have such speed limit on the 2-lane expressway/motorroad Maribor - Celje in times of Yugoslavia, when traffic was very light there (it was an exception, b/c the general speed limit on motorroads has always been 100 km/h).

EDIT: Hungarian 2-lane motorroads have speed limit 110 km/h.
In Australia, many rural highways are 2-lane single carriageways with a limit of 110 km/h. The really pathetic thing is, if they were to put a motorway there it would still only be 110 km/h.
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Old January 14th, 2009, 09:12 PM   #550
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Old January 14th, 2009, 11:10 PM   #551
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:18 PM   #552
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I don't know if this is correct but on Wikipedia it says that Romania has a speed limit on Motorways and Expressways 140 . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_by_country
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Old January 15th, 2009, 09:22 PM   #553
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No, it's not true, maybe it's because Police catch only >140. That way many countries have higher speed limits.
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Old January 15th, 2009, 11:25 PM   #554
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I don't know if this is correct but on Wikipedia it says that Romania has a speed limit on Motorways and Expressways 140 . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_limits_by_country
I assume it's a typo(graphical error), according to the same article:

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The speed limit in towns is generally 50 km/h, but on certain streets, depending on traffic, it can go up to 70 km/h for automobiles and motorcycles or as low as 10 km/h for tramways and 30 km/h for automobiles.

Outside towns, the speed limits are: 130 km/h on and motorways, 100 km/h on European roads or expressways and 90 km/h on other roads. However, for trucks and buses, the limits are lowered to 110, 90 and 80 km/h respectively, and for certain low weight/power motorcycles and automobiles they are lowered to 90, 80 and 70 km/h respectively. The tractors and vehicles which can travel at 45 km/h at most have a 45 km/h speed limit outside town, although inside cities they are allowed to go with the traffic at 50 km/h.

Overweight automobiles, trucks and buses or those transporting dangerous products have a speed limit of 40 km/h in town and 70 km/h outside towns. Also, drivers with less than one year of experience or learning how to drive must travel outside of town at 20 km/h less than the general speed limit for that road.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 01:16 PM   #555
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110 with no divided lanes? I think that's the highest in Europe, right? Although Sweden may have some 110 roads too...
Well, the 2-lane 110 roads in northern Sweden are history pretty soon. As the Swedes have added 40-60-80-100-120 kph limits, non-divided roads will not get limits higher than 100.
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Old January 17th, 2009, 05:09 PM   #557
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No. Notice that there's no motorway sign in the other direction (Slovenian A5), so I guess speed limit is 90 km/h until the first 110-km/h sign.
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Old January 19th, 2009, 06:49 PM   #558
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Just as I suspected, the fact that the motorway sign no longer means 110, developed area sign 50, etc. means that the speed limit signs technically no longer exist in Sweden.

I emailed Vägverket and they replied:
"Upplysningsmärke vid riksgräns" infördes i vägmärkesförordningen den 1 juni 2007, men redan 1 november 2008 togs det bort igen. Anledningen var bl. a. just det du påpekar, att motorväg inte längre har en enda "bashastighet". Det är ändå möjligt att det kommer att komponeras egna informationsskyltar vid gränsövergångarna."

This is saying that the signs began in June 2007 but were removed as of November 2008 because of the reason mentioned above. He also says however that maybe in the future there will be some kind of information sign at borders.
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Old January 25th, 2009, 01:08 PM   #559
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Just as I suspected, the fact that the motorway sign no longer means 110, developed area sign 50, etc. means that the speed limit signs technically no longer exist in Sweden.

I emailed Vägverket and they replied:
"Upplysningsmärke vid riksgräns" infördes i vägmärkesförordningen den 1 juni 2007, men redan 1 november 2008 togs det bort igen. Anledningen var bl. a. just det du påpekar, att motorväg inte längre har en enda "bashastighet". Det är ändå möjligt att det kommer att komponeras egna informationsskyltar vid gränsövergångarna."

This is saying that the signs began in June 2007 but were removed as of November 2008 because of the reason mentioned above. He also says however that maybe in the future there will be some kind of information sign at borders.
Interesting... and somewhat confusing. Most countries have a "base limit" even if they use special limits on dangerous, poor quality or very good sections of road. I think the Swedish problem has been that most rural roads have a limit higher than the base 70, so that 90 (or 110) signposts have been in place anyway. If you'd raised your base limit to 90 (or the "new" 80), things would have been made simpler. Perhaps.
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Old January 25th, 2009, 03:12 PM   #560
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as well as maximal speed of all vehicles on motorways and expressways within built-up area.
This is unique in Europe. What's the point to have a difference between normal expressways and expressways within built-up area? Wouldn't it be just easier to post speed limit signs if section needs lower limit?
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