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Old October 13th, 2010, 11:59 AM   #141
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Why?



Slovenia of course. Far better infrastructure.
but slovenia is small country. what the city could take the championship?
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Old October 13th, 2010, 12:09 PM   #142
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but slovenia is small country. what the city could take the championship?
So what if its small? Its venues and infrastructure is what matters and Italian arenas/halls don't come even near Slovenian ones.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 04:19 AM   #143
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Italy will get this. I dont like them, but their influence is just too big, and they must do something to stop huge fall of their national team.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 09:59 AM   #144
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So what if its small? Its venues and infrastructure is what matters and Italian arenas/halls don't come even near Slovenian ones.
I also support Slovenia here but this is simply not true. Italy presented offer consisting of cities located in northern part of the county, one of the best developped part of Europe. Designated for the second round and final phase Torino and Milano has great arenas, great hotels and much more to offer for the visiting supporters. Of course it would be more expensive for everyone to spend one or two weeks in Italy than in Slovenia and as usual probably nobody would notice the tournament itself unless the host team plays well. I predict totally different story in Slovenia.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 12:31 PM   #145
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I also support Slovenia here but this is simply not true. Italy presented offer consisting of cities located in northern part of the county, one of the best developped part of Europe. Designated for the second round and final phase Torino and Milano has great arenas, great hotels and much more to offer for the visiting supporters. Of course it would be more expensive for everyone to spend one or two weeks in Italy than in Slovenia and as usual probably nobody would notice the tournament itself unless the host team plays well. I predict totally different story in Slovenia.
Slovenian Arenas are pretty much all brand new and on higher level than Italian. Slovenia has developed tourism industry and hotels are everywhere.

Not to mention that it would be main event in the country for that period and that it would be central point of.. everything. In Italy it would just.. blend in. I guarantee you that there wouldn't be Eurobasket feeling all over Italy like there would be in Slovenia. Also, Slovenia is close to everyone in Europe.. so no worried about getting the halls filled. Italians can't even have full halls on their own games and you expect them to go to other people's games?

Be real.. i like Italian bid as well.. just as i like their country, cities and basketball. But Slovenian bid is simply better and that's all that matters at the end.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 12:50 PM   #146
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Slovenian Arenas are pretty much all brand new and on higher level than Italian. Slovenia has developed tourism industry and hotels are everywhere.
This is big a misunderstanding with both Slovenia and Croatia. You guys just think that your tourism industry is well developed. Maybe for most of the folks from my country - because it's not that far and it's not very expensive, the weather is great and so is the sea. But when it comes to quality of services you got a long way ahead of you if you would like to compare one day yourselves with Spain, Greece, France or even Italy. Not to mention the traffic issues on Slovenian hihgway(s)...

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Not to mention that it would be main event in the country for that period and that it would be central point of.. everything. In Italy it would just.. blend in. I guarantee you that there wouldn't be Eurobasket feeling all over Italy like there would be in Slovenia. Also, Slovenia is close to everyone in Europe.. so no worried about getting the halls filled. Italians can't even have full halls on their own games and you expect them to go to other people's games?
Well, and what in your opinion I meant when I wrote "I predict totally different story in Slovenia."?


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Be real.. i like Italian bid as well.. just as i like their country, cities and basketball. But Slovenian bid is simply better and that's all that matters at the end.
Well, this is like your opinion. For instance I've been in 2009 to European Athletics Indoor Champs in Torino and I really would like to see one day another major sport event in this very city.
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Old October 14th, 2010, 08:08 PM   #147
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There is some info that Italy is withdrawing from the bidding process.
Links:
-http://translate.google.com/translat...ia-candidatura

-http://translate.google.com/translat...tare_euro_2013

-http://translate.google.com/translat...l%3Frefresh_ce

-http://translate.google.com/translat...9805girata.asp
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Old October 14th, 2010, 09:07 PM   #148
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What can I say, Italy is downgrading on all fronts...
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Old October 14th, 2010, 11:09 PM   #149
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What can I say, Italy is downgrading on all fronts...
1. 2012 - 2016 Candidature for UEFA Euro Championship(win Ukraine & Poland; France)
2. 2013 EuroBasket (probably Slovenia)
3. Torino city withrew for 2010 Euroleague Final Four
4. World Volleyball championship 2010
5. 2020 Roma Olympic Games(maybe)
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Old October 15th, 2010, 09:48 AM   #150
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What can I say, Italy is downgrading on all fronts...
It seems so. If they can't even guarantee 6M euros for FIBA in case they win...
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Old October 15th, 2010, 03:28 PM   #151
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Berlusconi does not like basketball?

6M is not a big money for him;-)
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Old October 16th, 2010, 12:10 AM   #152
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1. 2012 - 2016 Candidature for UEFA Euro Championship(win Ukraine & Poland; France)
2. 2013 EuroBasket (probably Slovenia)
3. Torino city withrew for 2010 Euroleague Final Four
4. World Volleyball championship 2010
5. 2020 Roma Olympic Games(maybe)
But Milan is the host city of Expo, after Shangai 2010...MILAN 2015.

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Old October 16th, 2010, 03:00 AM   #153
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It's official! Italy withdraws its candidature!

http://www.fip.it/News.asp?IDNews=3015

Google translate : http://translate.google.com/translat...FIDNews%3D3015
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Old October 16th, 2010, 10:58 AM   #154
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congratulations Slovenia
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Old October 16th, 2010, 07:14 PM   #155
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SLOVENIA MORE THAN READY

-Ljubljana the capital of Slovenia is the Unesco World Capital of the Book this year http://www.visitljubljana.si/en/expe...-book-capital/
-Maribor(second largest city) is the european city of culture 2012 http://www.maribor2012.info/en/
-Maribor is hosting the winter Universiade 2013 * http://www.maribor2013.eu/en/

...investments in infrastructure for these projects with the Sports park in Ljubljana amounts by plans to more than 460 mio euros....

and there is no doubt there will be an excellent Eurobasketball 2013 organization. It will not be the first nor the last championship of the kind Slovenia will be hosting...so chill out...


an example is the new Sports park in Northern Ljubljana...





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Old October 16th, 2010, 07:31 PM   #156
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This is big a misunderstanding with both Slovenia and Croatia. You guys just think that your tourism industry is well developed. Maybe for most of the folks from my country - because it's not that far and it's not very expensive, the weather is great and so is the sea. But when it comes to quality of services you got a long way ahead of you if you would like to compare one day yourselves with Spain, Greece, France or even Italy. Not to mention the traffic issues on Slovenian hihgway(s)...



Well, and what in your opinion I meant when I wrote "I predict totally different story in Slovenia."?




Well, this is like your opinion. For instance I've been in 2009 to European Athletics Indoor Champs in Torino and I really would like to see one day another major sport event in this very city.
*what traffic issues are you talking about...because I lived in Slovenia and Italy and I hope you don't want to say that the infrastructure in Italy is better because that would be a joke... in the summer when we were going from Milan to the croatian coast though of course there will be jams... because italians have feragosto...and everybody goes on vacation at the same time...how smart is that...
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Old October 16th, 2010, 08:50 PM   #157
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So probably Slovenia will play all its matches at Stozice Arena, right?

Congratulations to Slovenia.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 09:07 PM   #158
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So probably Slovenia will play all its matches at Stozice Arena, right?

Congratulations to Slovenia.
Stazice Arena would be only one of the sites... there will be at least 6 other Arenas with capacity bigger than 5000 seats available till 2013 ...

- Ljubljana: new Tivoli
- Maribor: reconstructed Tabor Arena
- Celje: Arena Zlatorog
- Koper: enlarged Bonifika
- Jesenice: enlarged Podmezakla
- Novo Mesto
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Old October 16th, 2010, 09:07 PM   #159
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Now, I really hope Slovenia will get this Eurobasket 2013. Ljubljana (12.500) and Celje (6.000) are ready. Other arenas still have to be improved or built.
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Old October 16th, 2010, 09:11 PM   #160
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Jesenice are not in plan to host games. Although they could give renovated Podmežakla.

The planned venues are:
Ljubljana (new Stožice and probably renovated Tivoli),
Maribor (renovated Tabor),
Celje (Zlatorog),
Ptuj (new arena),
Novo mesto (new arena).
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