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Old February 21st, 2012, 04:37 PM   #201
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Torun I think is the best preserved medieval town in central Europe near Krakow. I was there last year. The city is beautiful at night and in the morning. I also read that this city has the best view from the river to the old town in Poland. I feel sorry for only just the castle of the Teutonic Order, which was reportedly demolished by the inhabitants of the city.
I love the well-preserved town walls with gates, turrets and towers and the beautiful town hall.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 06:16 AM   #202
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and thousands of others...

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The ones in Italy look extremely congested. They make for a nice picture but does anyone know how they are to live in? Is there young people in these towns or full of grandma's and grandpa's? How are things like plumbing?
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 12:40 PM   #203
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I don't get the point, You've seen a aerial review of ancient towns, if you want to know how life is there, well, see them on the google streetview or we'll post them. Obviously there are every kind of modern services, many young people loves their towns and lives there and many are actually connected on the skyscrapercity forum, so let's have their opinions The focus of the post was to show how many little town perfectly conserved there are only in a small fraction of european territory. If you want to see streetsights, we'll post them. They are nothing like congested at all. They are completely human scaled, and I find so much more congestion in metropolitan areas, and I'm from Milan, a vast urban area. Please consider that the two pictures you've choosen to show your thoughts are Caprarola and Trevi. Caprarola hosts for example a masterpiece of renaissance architecture like Palazzo Farnese Caprarola, a palace wanted by Pope Paul III Farnese and built by Antonio Sangallo the Younger and Baldassare Peruzzi that you can find in every art history book,



and Trevi, small town of 8000 inhabitants with very important artistical heritage, like frescoes by Perugino and a wonderful frescoed Villa. Here you are some detailed pics and a townscape.





As you can see, there is nothing like "congestion" at all, many small towns are actually little capitals of the new "slow food" movement, a movement based on the restoration of slow life as a value than sooner or later will take over the world! ahaha! just kidding
but the fact is that in those small town there is a connection between urbanity, history, and landscape and nature that makes those cities very liveable for both young people and oldies, please come and visit, you will see that those towns are often very far from being congested.
And yes, they have plumbings.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 01:30 PM   #204
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I don't get the point, You've seen a aerial review of ancient towns, if you want to know how life is there, well, see them on the google streetview or we'll post them. Obviously there are every kind of modern services, many young people loves their towns and lives there and many are actually connected on the skyscrapercity forum, so let's have their opinions The focus of the post was to show how many little town perfectly conserved there are only in a small fraction of european territory. If you want to see streetsights, we'll post them. They are nothing like congested at all. They are completely human scaled, and I find so much more congestion in metropolitan areas, and I'm from Milan, a vast urban area. Please consider that the two pictures you've choosen to show your thoughts are Caprarola and Trevi. Caprarola hosts for example a masterpiece of renaissance architecture like Palazzo Farnese Caprarola, a palace wanted by Pope Paul III Farnese and built by Antonio Sangallo the Younger and Baldassare Peruzzi that you can find in every art history book [...].
Thats true, i find it weird that so many people here are questioning the historic italian cities showing them as a dirty hole. Thanks for showing some true medieval villages, i like a lot the towns in le Marche, there are some amazing squares there.

Here in Andalusia we have a big amount of white villages, they dont look as the usual ''european medieval town'' but they belongs to the islamic-mediterranean culture and the urbanism and architecture shows this medieval past mixed up with renaissance and the local mudejar style.

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Old February 22nd, 2012, 01:52 PM   #205
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Lo mismo digo, pa mi es que hoy en dia hay una dominacion de una estetica del norte europa de "todo limpio-todo bonito" que basicamente se carga a la estratificacion y a la historia de nuestras ciudades, a mi me da que necesitamos que la gente se entere mejor de lo que realmente es el sur (que sea Andalucia o Toscana da igual: la batalla es comun), sus incantos y sus maravillas. No se puede negar que hoy en dia al "bello" se prefiere el "vendible", osea disneylandia. Ojala tuvieramos otro Piranesi u otro artista que enseņe al mundo la belleza de las ruinas y del "vivido"...tenemos muy escasos abogados de nuestra estetica en un periodo en el cual los grandes artistas son muy comerciales como Damien Hirst y compares...Pero bueno, como dice el anuncio de Cruzcampo, "todos necesitamos un poquito de sur"...
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 02:04 PM   #206
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O_O Nunca hubiera pensado que compartieramos tantos puntos de vista en comun!!! -Piranesi me encanta!-.

Yo creo tambien que necesitamos mas ''teoricos'' del sur, es posible buscar un metodo renacentista en las calles y monumentos fuera de la logica moderna, un eclecticismo que se piense y cree nuevos lugares, mas vida!

Your spanish is great! Im looking for to learn italian, im so interested in some italian philosophers of the renasance and baroque and i hope i could keep my studies over there one day.

Un saludo.
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 02:40 PM   #207
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three alternative papal residences

avignon







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san pellegrino quarter





anagni





the cathedral



the crypt of the cathedral



casa barnekow



the papal palace


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Old February 22nd, 2012, 03:18 PM   #208
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some of my favorites from central italy:

gubbio

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Idyllic and Pintoresque. Very relaxed kind of life. Love it!
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 03:46 PM   #210
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Very relaxed kind of life.
it's how the life should be, in the end we're just mammals



next: urbino

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Old February 22nd, 2012, 04:08 PM   #211
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urbino

the town has more a renaissance character because of it's booming it that period but it exists since the roman era so it fit to this thread...



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Old February 22nd, 2012, 04:34 PM   #212
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The UNESCO listed medieval city of Rhodes in Greece is widely considered to be one of the most well-preserved in the world.
http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/493
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 04:37 PM   #213
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Would be great to see some pictures! Thanks!
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 07:16 PM   #214
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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:21 PM   #215
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Venice, Italy - some big photos











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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:30 PM   #216
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large indeed

ascoli piceno by night:

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Old February 22nd, 2012, 08:37 PM   #217
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 06:05 AM   #218
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wOw Amazing City that represent the past.
those photo are truly beauty that need to be preserve more
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 11:34 AM   #219
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Wow! Wonderful town
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Old February 23rd, 2012, 02:18 PM   #220
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wow amazing. too bad these counries cant afford the preservation of these towns and buildings
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