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Old February 22nd, 2010, 12:53 AM   #321
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Guess I better hang on to my Seoul metro paper maps for dear life since they won't print any more. Every city I go to I try to get at least a couple paper maps for nostalgia.
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Old February 23rd, 2010, 02:55 PM   #322
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Korea Urban Transit (as of 2009)
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Korea Metropolitan Transit (as of 2009)
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Korea Urban Transit Under Construction (as of 2009)
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Korea Metropolitan Transit Under Construction (as of 2009)
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Old February 27th, 2010, 03:35 AM   #323
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Seoul announced, by analizing tranport card data from Korea Smart Card co., '2009 Year Utilization of Mass Transit'.

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- bus ridership in seoul per day : 5.67 millions

- the automous districts that have the biggest bus ridership per day :
  • Gangnam district ( 0.84 millions )
  • Seocho district ( 0.55 millions )
  • Jongro district ( 0.52 millions)

- the bus lines that have the biggest passengers per day :
  • No. 143 ( fourty thousands eight hundreds )
  • No. 152 ( fourty thousands seven hundreds )

- the most crowded bus stop
  • Guro digital complex : 9,700 (per day)
  • Gyobo tower sageori : 9,400 (per day)
  • Jamsil Lotte world : 8,400 (per day)

- ridership in Seoul subway Line 1 ~ Line 9 ( not counting transfer passengers and the stations outside of Seoul) : 4.73 millions per day

- the most crowded subway lines :
  • seoul subway line 2 ( 1.52 millions per day )
  • seoul subway line 4 ( 0.61 millions per day, only including the stations within seoul )
  • seoul subway line 3 ( 0.51 millions per day, only including the stations within seoul )
  • seoul subway line 1 ( 0.29 millions per day, only including the stations within seoul )

- the most crowded station ( per day )
  • gangnam station : 99727
  • jamsil station : 87128
  • sadang station : 76458
  • sillim station : 75149

- the day the most crowded in seoul mass transit
  • December 24th ( christmas eve ) : 12,468,000 passengers.
- the day the least crowded in seoul mass transit
  • January 26th ( lunar new year's holiday ) : 3,179,000 passengers

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Old February 28th, 2010, 04:58 AM   #324
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What is the difference between Korea Metropolitan Transit and Korea Urban transit?
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Old March 1st, 2010, 05:39 PM   #325
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What is the difference between Korea Metropolitan Transit and Korea Urban transit?
In short, urban transit is operated within one city. Metropolitan tranist is operated between cities. For example Seoul subway line 2 is urban transit because it's operated within Seoul only, and Gyeongui line is metropolitan transit because it's operated between Seoul and Gyeonggi province. But in some cases the distinctions between them are blurred. For example Ilsan line is classified as metropolitan transit and operated by Korail, but you can't find the name of this line on Seoul subway map because it's integrated on Seoul subway line 3 and operated as one line.
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Old March 1st, 2010, 05:55 PM   #326
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Some Seoul subway clips


Gangnam station and T-money recharging


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Old March 2nd, 2010, 03:49 AM   #327
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In short, urban transit is operated within one city. Metropolitan tranist is operated between cities. For example Seoul subway line 2 is urban transit because it's operated within Seoul only, and Gyeongui line is metropolitan transit because it's operated between Seoul and Gyeonggi province. But in some cases the distinctions between them are blurred. For example Ilsan line is classified as metropolitan transit and operated by Korail, but you can't find the name of this line on Seoul subway map because it's integrated on Seoul subway line 3 and operated as one line.
Seoul's subway system is basically the RER on steroids.
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Old March 4th, 2010, 05:48 AM   #328
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Seoul Subway Line 3 Extension Opened Today

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LCD Train Arrival Information

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Are there LCDs in all the stations? It looks like this is before you enter the turnstiles because it shows both directions. Am I right? It looks like a glorified version of the one they had several years ago telling you how long till the next train and the one after.
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Old March 4th, 2010, 08:51 AM   #329
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Are there LCDs in all the stations? It looks like this is before you enter the turnstiles because it shows both directions. Am I right? It looks like a glorified version of the one they had several years ago telling you how long till the next train and the one after.
You are right. It's LCD on gate or transfer passage, which is different than on platform. I don't know this is installed on every station.


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Old March 5th, 2010, 03:09 PM   #330
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Driver's Cabin of Gyeongui Line


Seoul subway line 2 on bridge


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Old March 8th, 2010, 04:49 PM   #331
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Gwangju Subway

A train is departing from Pyeongdong station
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A train is ready for operation on waiting track

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A train is departing for Pyeongdong station from waiting track

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A train is crossing the bridge between Dosan station(underground) and Pyeongdong station(elevated)

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Old March 10th, 2010, 10:39 AM   #332
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Korea Mass Transit To Open This Year


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The entire route of Incheon Aiport Line(A'REX) is scheduled to open this year after the completion of Phase 2 construction(21.7km). Phase 1 from Incheon Airport to Gimpo airport (40.0km)was opened in 2007, and with Phase 2 completed, peoples using Seoul station are able to get easy access to Gimpo and Incheon airport. Some stations (Yongyu, Yeongjong, Cheongna), which are located on 1st phase section, are built as additional stations funded solely by local government. Magoknaru station, located in 2nd phase section and funded by seoul government, is also added. And Korail (the private-funded Incheon Aiport Line suffered serious deficit and caused financial burden on government, thus government made Korail to take over this line last year. So this line is not private company anymore.) is planning to serve KTX directly to Incheon airport via Incheon airport line by 2012.


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Yongin LRT, located in Yongin city around Seoul, will be the first LRT in Korea if it opens on July as planned. Bombardier and several companies invested this line and will operate for 30 years. The train is Bombardier's.

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Busan Rapid Transit Line 4(Busan Subway Line 4), tentatively named Bansong Line, is Busan's 4th rapid transit. Unlike other Busan subways, which are mostly heavy-rail, Busan Line 4 is a tire-wheeled LRT. Even though most track are elevated and Busan Transportation Corp call all subways as rapid transit in their homepage, many peoples usually name it subway regardless of whether it's underground or elevated. This line is expected to open on December this year.

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Gyeongchun Line, 87.3 km single track, is now being double tracked and electrified to serve Seoul metropolitan transit. This line consists of two section, one section is metropolitan railroad(Mangwoo to Geumgok, 17.9km) and another is normal railroad(Geumgok to Chuncheon, 64.1 km). When the construction is done, the travel time will be cut to one hour twenty minutes from two hours now and when express train runs in 2011 the travel time will be 48 minutes. The destination of normal trains are Sinsangbong station, but that of express trains are Yongsan station to give passengers convenient access to Seoul downtown. This line is scheduled to open at the end of this year.

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It's not officially announced, but from the exterior I guess that Gyeongchun Line Express Train is based on this project
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Old March 10th, 2010, 01:13 PM   #333
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The Gyeongchun Line express train might just borrow the front styling from the Advanced EMU project. The Advanced EMU has curved bodysides and plug doors (which push out and slide along outside the body), while the Gyeongchun Line train has straight sides and internal sliding doors like other South Korean EMUs.
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Old March 11th, 2010, 06:24 AM   #334
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I'm guessing the Gyeongchun Line express a commuter rail train akin to DB Regio or Cercanias trains.

And will the advanced EMU be the new template for South Korean subways?
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The Gyeongchun Line express train might just borrow the front styling from the Advanced EMU project. The Advanced EMU has curved bodysides and plug doors (which push out and slide along outside the body), while the Gyeongchun Line train has straight sides and internal sliding doors like other South Korean EMUs.
I looked at the picture again, yes you seem to be right in this point.


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I'm guessing the Gyeongchun Line express a commuter rail train akin to DB Regio or Cercanias trains.

And will the advanced EMU be the new template for South Korean subways?
I think the new EMU plaform will be the next template. Most of rail projects by government have been put to practical use in any way.
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Old March 12th, 2010, 05:53 AM   #336
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What is the point of the Gyeongchun line? They already had the mugunghwa going to Chuncheon. When I was in Korea, I remember them closing Chuncheon and stopping all trains at Nam-Chuncheon (South Chuncheon for those who don't know) because they were building this. Did they build new tracks? All the stops are the same. I'm very confused....

On the plus side, the AREX line looks great. Before, everyone had to take a bus into Seoul and deal with the traffic.
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What is the point of the Gyeongchun line? They already had the mugunghwa going to Chuncheon. When I was in Korea, I remember them closing Chuncheon and stopping all trains at Nam-Chuncheon (South Chuncheon for those who don't know) because they were building this. Did they build new tracks? All the stops are the same. I'm very confused....

On the plus side, the AREX line looks great. Before, everyone had to take a bus into Seoul and deal with the traffic.
Even though most stops are the same , the old single, non-electrified track is being transformed into nearly newly-built double electrified track to serve as Seoul metropolitan transit and if done the capacity of this line will be increased from current 30/day to 110/day. Mugunghwa service will be closed when this line opens this year.

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It's impressive to see how much has been invested in rail-based public transport in South Korea, specially in Seoul. But, as I looked the subway lines, I realized they're quite long and almost none of them has express services (Line 1 does, but the frequency is not that nice). It takes a long time to cross the urban area. The recently planned lines, like the Sin Bundang and Sin Ansan Lines are more RER-like, but anyway, are there other real options in planning stages to adress this problem? And other thing, New Songdo will only have some Incheon Subway station? Like, no direct connection to Seoul? Wouldn't it hinder its possibilities of becoming this huge centrality?
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It's impressive to see how much has been invested in rail-based public transport in South Korea, specially in Seoul. But, as I looked the subway lines, I realized they're quite long and almost none of them has express services (Line 1 does, but the frequency is not that nice). It takes a long time to cross the urban area. The recently planned lines, like the Sin Bundang and Sin Ansan Lines are more RER-like, but anyway, are there other real options in planning stages to adress this problem?
Currently Gyeong-in(Line1), Gyeong-bu(Line1), Gyeong-ui, Jung-ang, Line 9, Line 4 provide express service and Gyeongchun line(expected to open this year) will provide express service in 2012. But many express services, except for Gyeong-in, Line 9, and the proposed Gyeongchun Line, are nearly nominal now. As you said, Sin Bundang and Sin Ansan Lines are designed to be operated at higher speed to serve RER-like operation. And Incheon Airport rail will provide kind of express service too even though it's made to serve aiport rail link. Besides these, subway operators are now considering more express service in existing and possible subways, and Gyeonggi province proposed so-called GTX.
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An ambitious project to build a high-speed underground rail network linking Seoul to its populous neighboring towns has hit a snag mainly due to the capital's push for a similar underground plan for cars.

The Ministry of Land, Transportation and Maritime Affairs was supposed to complete the feasibility study of an underground rail service project dubbed "GTX" (Great Train Express) by November.

Commissioned by the ministry, the state-run Korea Transportation Institute started the feasibility study in June this year. But the institute has recently delayed the study completion to July next year, a month after the nation's mayoral and gubernatorial elections.

A senior KOTI researcher dismissed rumors of political consideration in the delay. "It was delayed just because we have to consider the effect of another project being pushed by Seoul City to build underground automobile highways (on the GTX plan)," he told The Korea Herald.

The institute plans to take into consideration the outcome of the research study on the underground highway project, which is scheduled to be finished by the end of this year. But chances are that the study plan on underground roads will unlikely meet the deadline.

Unlike the road plan, the 174-km GTX project was proposed by the government of Gyeonggi Province, which encircles Seoul and Incheon, to significantly reduce the daily traffic in those regions believed to be the world's second largest metropolitan area with the population of 24.5 million in total.

Under the proposal, the GTX would have three key underground lines -- a 74.8-kilometer stretch between Ilsan, west of Seoul, and Dongtan, south of Seoul, via Suseo in southern Seoul; 49.9 kilometers between Songdo in Incheon and Cheongryangri in northern Seoul; and 49.3 kilometers between Uijeongbu, north of Seoul, and Geumjeong, southwest of Seoul.

Planners expect that residents will be able to travel to the greater metropolitan area within 40 minutes from 2016.

The GTX high-speed trains would run at 120 kilometers per hour on average, three times faster than the existing subways.

The construction to build rapid railway tracks, about 50 meters deeper than Seoul's subway system, is estimated to cost about 2 trillion won.

The provincial government wants construction to start in 2011 and be completed by 2016.

With the delay in the feasibility study, it is widely viewed that the high-speed underground rail service project to improve the capital region's transportation networks will stall for a considerable time.

http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSI...0912180105.asp
As above article suggests, the feasibility study was postponed until July 2010, and considering Seoul's hesitation and the vast cost, I don't think the study would meet the deadline.


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And other thing, New Songdo will only have some Incheon Subway station? Like, no direct connection to Seoul? Wouldn't it hinder its possibilities of becoming this huge centrality?
If GTX project is successfully done, Songdo will have direct connection to Seoul. If not, they would have to use the exsiting subways or buses.
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So they want to build the commuter A,B,C lines all underground? Is there just no room above ground?
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