KOREA | Urban Transport Compilation

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The new trains remind me of these trains from JR's Chuo line:

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Originally Posted by ddes

So GTX is Seoul's answer to the RER?

That's what I was thinking.

It is so impressive to see a city like Seoul, with an extensive rail transit network not only expanding it but adding new forms such as light rail and rapid commuter rail. Awesome!!

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No more paper ticket in seoul subway

Seoul City Government announced that paper ticket would disappear on May, and RF-type rechargeable single journey card would be used instead. For a while, in order to prevent passengers from being confused, passengers are able to use both. In this system you have to purchase 'single journey card' instead of 'paper ticket'. When you purchase this card you have to pay, addition to the fare, the 500-WON depoist for the card and you can refund it at Deposit Refund Device any time.

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Seoul Subway at Rush Hour



video from news clip

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Dang-go-gae Station

























image from korail5078

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More about No More Paper Ticket in Seoul Subway





According to this news clip, passengers can use both paper ticket and single journey ticket till the openning day of Metro 9, which is scheduled to open in the late of May. So it means that paper ticket will end its life on the late of May.

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The Smallest Subway in Korea

Nok-Dong station in Gwangju Subway, located at Gwangju Subway Yongsan Base, is the smallest subway in korea. The station didn't exist in intial plan but it was later added to the plan to serve the residents nearby Yongsan Base. The average daily ridership on 2008 was 52 persons and the average headway is about 1 hour.

And Nok-Dong station has Rope Type Screen Door, which is the only one in Korea.

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Gwangju Subway Route Map




Nok-Dong Station















images from overroad89 at naver.com

satellite image

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Mong-Chon-To-Seong Station in Seoul Subway Line 8

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Originally Posted by ruready1000

More about No More Paper Ticket in Seoul Subway





According to this news clip, passengers can use both paper ticket and single journey ticket till the openning day of Metro 9, which is scheduled to open in the late of May. So it means that paper ticket will end its life on the late of May.

Why are they using the:
1. Tap card to enter faregates
2. Tap card to exit faregates
3. Return card to machine
kind of system that is also used in Singapore when they could have been using the
1. Tap token to enter faregates
2. Insert token to exit faregates
kind of system used in Delhi Metro and Taipei/Kaohsiung MRT?

I've used both types of systems in Taipei and Singapore and I know how cumbersome it is to return the card (during the few times I had to purchase a single trip ticket) to the machine after you have completed your journey and am about to leave the station.

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Originally Posted by sgp

Why are they using the:
1. Tap card to enter faregates
2. Tap card to exit faregates
3. Return card to machine
kind of system that is also used in Singapore when they could have been using the
1. Tap token to enter faregates
2. Insert token to exit faregates
kind of system used in Delhi Metro and Taipei/Kaohsiung MRT?

I've used both types of systems in Taipei and Singapore and I know how cumbersome it is to return the card (during the few times I had to purchase a single trip ticket) to the machine after you have completed your journey and am about to leave the station.

It's unconvenient, of course. I think the reason they don't use 'colleting card at faregates directly' is that there're so many stations in Seoul metropolitan metro and Incheon subway. For example Seoul Subway Line 1 ~ Line 8, which are operated by Seoul Metropolitan Rapid Transit Corporation and Seoul Metro, have about 266 stations and there're about 400 stations if you include Incheon subway and other metros, operated by Korail. If they install the system at every station and every gateways, the cost will be vast. (for reference, Daegu, Daejeon, Gwangju subway use token type system for single journey. Busan subway use paper ticket.) The fact that 90% of subway passengers use transportation card ( usually T-Money card in seoul) and only small portion of passengers use single journey ticket could be the another reason.

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Originally Posted by sgp

Why are they using the:
1. Tap card to enter faregates
2. Tap card to exit faregates
3. Return card to machine
kind of system that is also used in Singapore when they could have been using the
1. Tap token to enter faregates
2. Insert token to exit faregates
kind of system used in Delhi Metro and Taipei/Kaohsiung MRT?

I've used both types of systems in Taipei and Singapore and I know how cumbersome it is to return the card (during the few times I had to purchase a single trip ticket) to the machine after you have completed your journey and am about to leave the station.

Better yet, single journey tickets could be made on PET material RFID plastic that is disposable, ie what disposable myki cards will use.

www.myki.com.au

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Originally Posted by cal_t

Better yet, single journey tickets could be made on PET material RFID plastic that is disposable, ie what disposable myki cards will use.

www.myki.com.au

Even better, why not use a "paper based" contactless ticket like that is used for the "Sentosa Pass" in Singapore. Its contactless on entry and exit but you don't have to return the card after exiting as going by how flimsy it looks it most certainly won't last beyond a day. That's one solution to the cumbersome issue.

Although I don't understand why they used such a paper based card for the theme park in Singapore but not for its metro system and why it's not being adopted elsewhere as an alternative to the contactless token system (which requires new/upgraded ticket machines and gates)

With regards to myki, are you sure you can dispose of those cards after exiting? Plastic RFID cards like that cost a lot to manufacture. For some systems, the authorities even impose a card cost charge for the purchase of a stored value multi trip card to recover such costs. I don't think they will allow single trip cards made of such a material to be disposed so easily.

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Originally Posted by sgp

Even better, why not use a "paper based" contactless ticket like that is used for the "Sentosa Pass" in Singapore. Its contactless on entry and exit but you don't have to return the card after exiting as going by how flimsy it looks it most certainly won't last beyond a day. That's one solution to the cumbersome issue.

Although I don't understand why they used such a paper based card for the theme park in Singapore but not for its metro system and why it's not being adopted elsewhere as an alternative to the contactless token system (which requires new/upgraded ticket machines and gates)

With regards to myki, are you sure you can dispose of those cards after exiting? Plastic RFID cards like that cost a lot to manufacture. For some systems, the authorities even impose a card cost charge for the purchase of a stored value multi trip card to recover such costs. I don't think they will allow single trip cards made of such a material to be disposed so easily.

Short term myki cards are made on thin paper circuits that are disposable. Current myki cards are all long term multiple use tickets.

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First day of Single Journey Card

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Bus-Only Lane in Seoul

Seoul have first-stage BRTs in 8 lines, which have bus-exclusive lanes,but not grade-sperated. According to Seoul City Government, the total length of BRTs now in Seoul are 73.5km as of March, 2009 and the length of BRTs will be extended to 169.8 km in 15 lines by 2010. source(korean)

Here are some pictures of how the bus-only lanes look like.

Song-Pa BRT














Do-Bong BRT









images from daum roadview

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Gong-Hang BRT, newly opened in April, 2009












images from overroad89 at naver.com

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Gwangju Subway































images from s6604 at blog.naver.com

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Incheon Subway

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Gwangju Subway

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Daegu Subway