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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:11 AM   #1
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IRELAND - Gaelic Athletic Association Stadiums

gaa is an amateur Irish and international cultural and sporting organisation mainly focused on promoting Gaelic games: the traditional Irish sports of hurling and Gaelic football. The GAA also promotes Irish music and dance, and the Irish language. It is the largest organisation in Ireland with some 800,000 members from the island's population of six million.
It celebrated its 125th year 2 months ago in foundary.
In short..its Irelands version of the premiership and football, i thought it would be cool to show you the stadiums.

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the biggest is croke park, capacity 82,500 4th largest in europe and largest amature sports arena in the world.

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second is semple stadium capacity 55,000

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third is the gaelic grounds, capacity 50,000









Páirc Uí Chaoimh, capacity 43,500 (originally 50,000 until seating was put into stand opposite main stand)

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other stadiums include

Fitzgerald Stadium, capacity 39,120
McHale Park, capacity 36,000
St. Tiernach's Park 36,000
Pearse Stadium 34,000
Casement Park 32,000
Nowlan Park 30,000
Hyde Park 30,000
Páirc Tailteann 30,000

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadiums_of_Ireland
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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:26 AM   #2
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the biggest is croke park, capacity 82,500 4th largest in europe and largest amature sports arena in the world.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stadiums_of_Ireland
The are many colleges with bigger stadiums, so its wouldn't be the largest amatur sports arena in the world.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:33 AM   #3
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It's nice to see stadia for sports other than just football/american football/baseball etc on here. The pitch size is really quite large though. Croke Park in football/rugby mode leaves a very large space between fans and the action.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 04:40 AM   #4
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Let's appreciate just how big Croke Park is!








Pity it isn't a bowl all the way around...
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Old March 27th, 2009, 07:43 AM   #5
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Pity it isn't a bowl all the way around...
But that is unlikely to happen because of the houses behind Hill 16. They'd need to buy them and have them all demolished for that to happen
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Old March 27th, 2009, 07:52 AM   #6
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I don't mind it being three-sided. Hill 16 has a charm about it.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 03:34 PM   #7
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But that is unlikely to happen because of the houses behind Hill 16.
Or, more to the point, the railway line.
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Old March 27th, 2009, 03:37 PM   #8
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i dont think the railway line would be a problem, look what they did with lansdowne road in its redevelopment
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Old November 21st, 2011, 01:34 PM   #9
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Wake up call for the GAA as health and safety are going to seriously reduce the capacity of several stadia. Pairc ui Chaoimh may be reduced to 20000.
Its time the GAA stopped trying to maintain 35-40 white elephants the most of which are really poor quality and started looking at concentrating funds towards 5 or 6 quality stadia around the country that can cope safely for big crowds and be comfortable for the fans. Every county should have a ground but the big matches attracting 30-40000 should then be played at one of the ''élite'' venues. Which grounds are converted into elite venues would cause all sorts of arguments between different counties but something has to be done as the GAA cannot keep maintaing all the stadia. Maybe this is already happening with plans for Casement and Pairc ui Chaoimh - I hope so

http://www.independent.ie/sport/gael...s-2940137.html

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Old November 23rd, 2011, 12:41 PM   #10
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Here is an update to the crisis that is about to hit the GAA stadia regarding health and safety - basically most of the stadia will have big reductions in capacity unless major work is carried out.


http://www.independent.ie/sport/gael...y-2942466.html
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Old November 24th, 2011, 01:27 AM   #11
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I have been a bit critical of the GAA recently so its only fair that I show some of the more successfull developments of recent years

Athletics Ground Armagh




Celtic Park Derry



O'Connor Park Offaly

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Healy Park Tyrone



McHale Park Mayo



Dont see the need for posts in a modern stand to support a roof but nevermind - this stand though has placed Mayo GAA in seroius debt

Pearse Park Galway



O'Moore Park Laois




At the moment all the above stadia now have 1 good stand however the remaining 3 stands are either terracing or bench seats so still room for massive improvements.
If I can think of any other good examples I will add them on.

Hopefully we will be seeing more developments like these over the next few years as opposed to replacing an old terrace with a new one. As I have said before the way forward for the GAA is fewer, smaller and better quality stadia but I doubt that will happen. Dublin have no sooner just announced to build a new 25000 seater stadium and the neighbouring counties are going to veto it and have any money split between the counties so instead of 1 half decent stadium we will probably get about 6 patch up jobs fit for nothing - great!

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Old November 28th, 2011, 07:14 PM   #12
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Actually the standard of the ulster GAA grounds has improved hugely as many have availed of the sports council grants that were on offer in the north. Many of the stadiums are suitable for league games but it seems that Clones and possibly Casement will be the only two suitable to host ulster championship games.

I would still advocate the use of terracing at both ends of GAA grounds for the simple reason that it adds to atmosphere and can allow for larger championship attendances.
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Old November 30th, 2011, 11:57 AM   #13
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I have no problem with terracing in theory if built properly however most are old, potentially unsafe with no roof. That may be fine for many of the stadia up and down the country which attract small crowds but for the bigger stadia attracting the big crowds I would like terracing to be safe covered and have the ability to be easily converted to seating in case health and safety laws change. From an aesthetic perspective the new terracing at Croke is pathetic (seeing it cost 24million) and likewise I think something better could have been done with the gaelic grounds - even a simple roof!
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Old November 30th, 2011, 05:34 PM   #14
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Croke Park is a magnificent stadium, but so sad they can't complete the bowl because there's a railway and houses !
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Old December 5th, 2011, 05:17 AM   #15
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Every county should have a ground but the big matches attracting 30-40000 should then be played at one of the ''élite'' venues.
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Old January 2nd, 2012, 04:46 AM   #16
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Croke Park is a magnificent stadium, but so sad they can't complete the bowl because there's a railway and houses !
The majority of members want to keep the terracing which is mostly associated with fans of the Dublin teams, where tickets are cheaper and where a good deal of the athmosphere comes from.

Croke park is physically enormous and a crowd of 40,000 can seem "lost" and it is so big that athmospjere can be lost. Hill 16, the terrace, is an essential part of creating athmosphere at Croke park. I think most people who have attended games there will agree.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 02:11 AM   #17
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Boost for Casement Park plan as Executive gives £61m

Casement Park is to be redeveloped into a seated, 40,000-capacity stadium.

UNA BRADLEY

A MAJOR stadium for Gaelic games in the North, second only to Croke Park, is a significant step closer to reality after the GAA secured a £61.4 million (€77.1 million) investment from the Stormont Executive.

The redevelopment of the existing Casement Park grounds, in the heart of west Belfast, into a seated, 40,000-capacity stadium has been in the pipeline since 2002, when a GAA strategic review recommended each province of Ireland boast a state-of-the-art arena, but progress has been stop-start.

The funds from the Northern Ireland Executive were formally accepted after a meeting of the GAA’s Ulster council on Thursday night, following a meeting of the national management committee the previous evening at Croke Park.

Tenders have already gone out for a design team and it is envisaged construction work will begin in mid-2013.

Ulster GAA president Aogan Ó Fearghail said: “This is a significant milestone in both the Casement Park redevelopment and the ongoing implementation of the Ulster GAA Strategic Action Plan and Vision.

SDLP councillor Tim Attwood said the news was a “huge boost” to west Belfast. “This part of the city has suffered greatly in terms of disadvantage, so we’re very keen that the whole community can benefit from the economic stimulus a new stadium will bring,” he said.

Tom Daly, chairman of the Casement Park stadium board, said the decision was an important marker in the process “to ensure provision of a modern, fit-for-purpose stadium in Ulster”. The Northern Ireland Executive has earmarked more than £100 million in total to redevelop GAA, rugby and football stadiums.
Not too sure a 40,000 all seater is necessary. I would prefer to c the two ends turned into standing areas. A fully covered stadium would be great and a first for the Gaa. Could also be a terrific chance to develop it for concerts.
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Old February 29th, 2012, 02:38 AM   #18
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Páirc Uí Chaoimh capacity issues cause concern

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GAELIC GAMES: CORK’S PLANNED redevelopment of Páirc Uí Chaoimh may find itself short changed by the Munster Council as their priority on stadium facilities shifts from size and capacity to safety and comfort.

The Cork County Board has received the necessary approval to redevelop Páirc Uí Chaoimh into a 45,000 all-seater stadium, but in his report to Friday’s annual convention in Dungarvan, Munster Council secretary Pat Fitzgerald raises some concerns about the need for such a stadium even if Cork naturally demands it.

“We are unique in that we have four major stadia and four other grounds with the ability to host events of 20,000-plus,” he says. “This is testimony to the foresight and vision of past leaders in our counties and this council’s consistent financial support. The question might rightly be asked if those four major stadia are needed today, with transport having progressed to give access to all parts of the province, within a reasonable timeframe.

“Recognised as our association’s second stadia, Semple Stadium in Thurles underwent a major revamp with an investment of €18 million provided by Croke Park, this council and Semple Stadium Committee in the last few years. The Gaelic Grounds in Limerick also spent €12 million a couple of years ago while Fitzgerald Stadium, Killarney, completed phase one of their development also.

“Páirc Uí Chaoimh, once the pearl in the crown of GAA stadia, now finds itself in serious need of a major upgrade. Patron safety and comfort are paramount and with changing patron behaviour in recent years this stadium urgently needs its planned redevelopment to make it fit for purpose and safe for use in our fixture calendar.

“So, the question might be posed again: do we need Páirc Uí Chaoimh? I contend that it is important Cork . . . has a GAA stadium which offers our patrons safety and comfort and sends out a signal that our association is vibrant in the city by the Lee.

“Financially this must not interfere with our other commitments toward games development and promotion however as a council in infrastructural terms we must recognise that with limited resources, it must be our priority to support Cork in a reasonable way financially to develop a stadium which gives safety and comfort the priority it requires.

“This does not mean that a stadium facilitating huge attendances is required. No, a stadium with the most up-to-date patron and event management facilities will send out the positive message required. Where does this leave Semple Stadium, Gaelic Grounds and indeed Fitzgerald Stadium in terms of council funding support? It is my view that the council must now prioritise and having generously supported other stadia with the exception of Killarney, these stadia and counties must accept that the council has limited resources and support this prioritisation.”

The issue of prioritising stadium facilities was also raised at Saturday’s Ulster Convention, where Ulster GAA president Aogan Farrell made his feelings clear that the redevelopment of Casement Park was a worthy and necessary exercise. “The project to deliver a new 40,000 all-seater stadium at Casement Park is now in full flow,” he said, “and the redevelopment of Casement Park will be a fantastic boost for Gaelic games in the northern half of Ireland. There are many fabulous GAA venues in the south and deep south. The GAA strategic review back in 2002 identified the need for a major stadium in Ulster.

“The Ulster Council pursued this ambition on behalf of the association. An opportunity arose to build a multi-sport stadium on the Maze site. We said yes, we fully participated in the early stages of the Maze proposal, and were disappointed when the project was abandoned.

“When the Maze project collapsed the three main sporting bodies, soccer, rugby and GAA were asked to prepare plans for their own separate stadia developments. The Ulster Council researched the possibilities of a green-field development or the redevelopment of an existing facility.

“We surveyed the options and got valuable assistance from independent consultants. The evidence was overwhelmingly in favour of redeveloping Casement Park. The Ulster Council have pursued this option with vigour over the past five years. Ulster Council management were fully informed, fully supportive and fully behind every advancement over all this period.”

Long-serving Ulster secretary Danny Murphy was unable to attend Saturday’s convention due to illness, but in his report, took the opportunity to reinforce his belief in the association’s amateur status against the backdrop of the recent debate on payment to managers: “The recent leaking of a working document on team managers was an abuse of our democratic process as the issues were still under discussion . . . The ultimate issue for the GAA is whether we remain amateur. It is time to decide if we want to operate within the established central council scales of expenses or not.

“There are many coaches and managers that operate within our guidelines and the question that must be addressed is will the association be better in remaining amateur? I believe the motivation and dedication of our voluntary workers is a testament to the fact the local sense and pride of place is greater than any demand for diminution of our amateur ethos.”
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Old February 29th, 2012, 03:47 AM   #19
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Not too sure a 40,000 all seater is necessary. I would prefer to c the two ends turned into standing areas. A fully covered stadium would be great and a first for the Gaa. Could also be a terrific chance to develop it for concerts.
Looks like there's not too much room there for a massive expansion. Road at one side and private residential gardens along the other 3 sides. Are there any plans available showing the proposed works or has all that yet to be drawn up?
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Old March 2nd, 2012, 01:27 PM   #20
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What's more crazy is the GAA's (& county's insistence) that even the quarter finals are all played at Croke Park - to give the counties a bid day out. So totally makes all the arguments for revamping all the big stadia into 40-50K grounds a joke - when they'll probably hold one match a year (maybe every 2 years) justifying a big ground.

Also, just to echo earlier comments some of the 'redevelopments' of late, the are so done on the cheap (stantions holding the roof, new terraces) that the quality is piss poor. Sadly it seems like so many of the developments are done as county vanity projects, as if the 'neighbour' gets some development they want some as well.

With all the money spent, with the exception of Croke Park there's not one ground that would be fit to hold a big international event - rugby, football. And that's before even considering opening these grounds to 'foreign games'
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