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Old May 22nd, 2011, 10:16 PM   #361
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isn't in that sense "keresztúr" that cross with Jesus that usually is in the centre of the village, or at some village intersection? something like this

and according to this "keresztúr" could be the word itself
Keresztúr is an archaic name of the Holy Cross, the symbol of christianity. The "cross with Jesus" is called crucifix, feszület in Hungarian.
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and according to this "keresztúr" could be the word itself
Keresztúri pihenőhely means Rest Area Keresztúr, and it is located near the village of Ráckeresztúr, so sometimes the rest areas are given not the full name of the settlement nearby. This is the same for Igmándi pihenőhely on M1, which is near Kisigmánd, or Újvárosi pihenőhely on M6 near Dunaújváros. There may be even more such cases
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Old May 23rd, 2011, 12:12 AM   #363
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Old May 24th, 2011, 07:24 PM   #364
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Mura is a river
kereszt = cross
úr = Lord (God) or Mister
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Keresztúr doesn't mean anything
Hey, how can you say that? The meaning of the word is obvious: "the Lord on the Cross". It does mean that in those places there were "Christ on the Cross" sculptures or paintings located.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 07:29 PM   #365
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isn't in that sense "keresztúr" that cross with Jesus that usually is in the centre of the village, or at some village intersection? something like this
and according to this "keresztúr" could be the word itself
Sorry, I answerd too fast to Zsimi :-) You're totally right, your analysis is perfect.
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Old May 24th, 2011, 07:39 PM   #366
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Keresztúri pihenőhely means Rest Area Keresztúr, and it is located near the village of Ráckeresztúr, so sometimes the rest areas are given not the full name of the settlement nearby. This is the same for Igmándi pihenőhely on M1, which is near Kisigmánd, or Újvárosi pihenőhely on M6 near Dunaújváros. There may be even more such cases
Note that while many European languages use town names of two, three or more words, in Hungary there are always spelled as one single word. Germans have Frankfurt am Main and Frankfurt and der Oder (and some other Frankfurts as well), in Hungary it would be Mainfrankfurt and Oderfrankfurt, just like Balatonkeresztúr, Ráckeresztúr, Rákoskeresztúr, or Balatonföldvár, Dunaföldvár, Tiszaföldvár, etc.
However in everyday usage this names are used in shortened form, Keresztúr, Földvár, etc. Usually is is obvious which Keresztúr are you talking about.

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Sorry, I answerd too fast to Zsimi :-) You're totally right, your analysis is perfect.
whoa, this is a huge recognition to my hungarian
i just supposed it could be that because that cross is perfect thing to name places about. in Croatia we don't have it in custom. btw we call it "raspelo" (raspeti, razapeti = to crucify), but i feel that word kinda harsh or unsuitable. in last time i hear more and more the word "krajputaš" (kraj puta = beside the road) that i find really nice, especially because it came mostly from rural areas and became spread. i like those dialectic words when they become widely spread
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What I hate by Belgian roads, is 'nationalistic' signage. How am I supposed to know that Anvers is Antwerpen, or that Luik is Ličge?
E40, eastbound








These pictures are taken in order.
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Old June 6th, 2011, 08:05 PM   #370
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These pictures are taken in order.
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E40, eastbound
i have never seen such clear and nice Belgian direction sign!

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Old June 12th, 2011, 08:49 PM   #372
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Seen here http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ie...,0.027423&z=15 on Friday:

Welcome
Clifton Park
Rest Area

Bienvenue
Clifton Park
Aire de Repos

I know that's awful French, but still, it's French, in the U.S., a good 200 miles/300 km below the border. I do know (wasn't there this trip but I've driven to Montreal a few times) that for the last 40 miles or so of I-87, all (official) signage is bilingual.
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Old June 12th, 2011, 09:44 PM   #373
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These pictures are taken in order.
And even they are consecutive exits! That's because E40 goes along the border between Netherlands and France (Eeeeer, Flanders and Wallonia ).
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Old June 13th, 2011, 04:26 PM   #374
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Just a question here:

Why "exit" in the Netherlands is signed "afrit" and in Belgium is signed "uitrit"? There is a difference between the two words or is simply the will to diferentiate?
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They basically mean the same. However, an "uitrit" is also defined in the Netherlands as a driveway access, not a motorway exit. However, the "afrit" is currently being replaced by the international exit symbol like you see in many other countries including Germany, France, Spain and the Czech Republic.
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Why "exit" in the Netherlands is signed "afrit" and in Belgium is signed "uitrit"? There is a difference between the two words or is simply the will to diferentiate?
THAT'S why I can never remember which word is used in Dutch - both of them are! (I can also never remember whether it's Abfahrt or Ausfahrt in German....)
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"uitrit" is more like a generic exit for vehicles, "afrit" is more used when you're talking about exiting with a height difference (like an elevated motorway, bridge, canal, ...). In regular speech both are treated as the same though. It's like "exiting" a motorway or "driving off" a motorway.

I'm not sure how the difference was formed, but I'm pretty certain it's "just" a historical difference. I doubt it has anything to do with wanting to be different from each-other.

EDIT: wow, lots of replies in a short time period :P Either way, like Chris said: that text isn't being used that often any more. I've personally hardly seen it on motorways (or at least not noticed it) since we've been using the international exit symbol for quite a while now. Only on gantries they still seem to be using it.

EDIT2: by the way, in Belgium we usually call them "afrit" as well. Hence the name of an old TV program called "Afrit 9"...

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Old June 13th, 2011, 04:59 PM   #378
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afaik in NL you can fint AFRIT and UIT. right?
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Old June 13th, 2011, 05:07 PM   #379
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UIT has the same function as Ausfahrt in Germany.

I always found the usage of the word "uit" (out) a bit silly.
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does D have something else beside Ausfahrt? i don't remember at the moment.
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